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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

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winjer

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Bluntman said:
Yes, Hungarys little gas and oil money is keeping Putins campaign rolling :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

I'm going to the petrol station later today to fill up directly with some Ukrainian blood I guess.

While I see the western liberal propaganda working painting us as some big friend of Putin, who were the biggest trade partners of Russia in recent years in Europe again?
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Stop being an hypocrite. The whole of Europe has to stand united against this invasion and sanction Russia for this invasion.
 
nemiroff

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winjer said:
You are acting like a Russian bot.
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As someone who got red-pilled a few years ago and became a truth-seeker/fact-finder oriented I find it so fucking peculiar and sad that some right-wingers (and left-wingers like Dore and Brand as well absurdly enough) suddenly are so stern at bot-ing into Puting doctrines just because they've become allergic to their opponents causes. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.. Thus their hypocrisy is just as bad.

Edit: Just to be clear: I agree with you, I was extending on your post so-to-speak.
 
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Ozriel

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Loki said:
Keep deluding yourself if you believe anything other than an extreme minority of Americans want continued involvement in this war, and continued provocation and escalation with Russia. lol @ calling it "concern trolling" - you stooges are being led by the hand down a very dangerous road and are too blind to see it.
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You realize the US will soon pass an additional $33bn in aid to Ukraine, most of it military in nature, with significant bipartisan support?
Or that such weapons deliveries are popular in the US and UK?


Imagine being naive enough to fear that this would lead to ‘resentment’ for the US in Russia…as if you haven’t seen the daily TV clips from Russian propaganda TV where the US is constantly being attacked and blamed for the war.
 
Tams

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All the Putler apologists and naïve morons who think this can be solved 'with dialogue' can read this and either change their tune or fuck off.

Here's an excerpt to get you started.

One of the photos she showed me was the hanging body of a young girl. She couldn’t have been more than 14. She said her grandson told her he was walking through the woods looking for dead bodies left by the Russians and lifted his head and saw these girls strung from the trees, all of them very young. They were naked and torn up. She said he had passed on the photos to investigators in Ukraine who were gathering evidence of war crimes.
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Kill any orc who doesn't run back to Russia. And if they're guilty of such crimes, hunt them down anyway.
 
Bluntman

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winjer said:
Stop being an hypocrite. The whole of Europe has to stand united against this invasion and sanction Russia for this invasion.
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You guys are just as much of a hypocrites, as nemiroff pointed out after your post.

We agree that Putins agression must be stopped. We just don't agree on the solution for that is to throw half of Europe back to the middle-ages.

The Czech and Slovak government (among others) can't accept the proposed gas and oil sanctions either. They just strategically always wait for Viktor to come forward first.

 
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nemiroff

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Anyway, my mother-in-law (which luckily escaped) just got news from her friends in her Russian-occupied town (occupied very early) that the Russians have started to ship in Russian civilians. And they have now started to to appropriate and throw Ukrainians out of their own homes. They told her a story about newly arrived Russian women who are waltzing around grabbing food from the basically-empty markets without paying as if they own the place.
 
nemiroff

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Bluntman said:
You guys are just as much of a hypocrites, as nemiroff pointed out after your post.
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I'm confused, I didn't exactly agree with you.. My post was sort-of an extension of the post I replied to.. I did in hindsight edit away a "you" word to make my position clearer, maybe that's where you misunderstood me.
 
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winjer

winjer

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Bluntman said:
You guys are just as much of a hypocrites, as nemiroff pointed out after your post.

We agree that Putins agression must be stopped. We just don't agree on the solution for that is to throw half of Europe back to the middle-ages.

The Czech and Slovak government (among others) can't accept the proposed gas and oil sanctions either. They just strategically always wait for Viktor to come forward first.

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Russian aggression will continue if we don't stop financing their war.
That's why the EU is doing so much to shift it's dependency o Russian gas and oil.
There are other suppliers of gas and oil, very willing to take Russia's share.
But maybe you would like to go back to having your country under the USSR rule.
 
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I'm sorry but this is just gold:

Loki said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...ssian-flagship-moskva-officials-say-rcna27559

I assume no one in here has a problem with this? The war drums beat loud in here.
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I have a problem with this leaking, unless it was done on purpose to show the Russians who, and repeat this with me, are committing genocide, that we aren't fucking around.

Loki said:
Very nearsighted - or intentionally provocative - to be announcing our complicity like that.
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It wasn't an announcement. It came on background.

Loki said:
complicity
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Complicity implies we did something wrong or illegal. What was wrong or illegal about sharing intelligence about Russians who, repeat this with me, are committing genocide, with the people they're trying to exterminate from the planet through documented rape, torture, murder and other indiscriminate atrocities? Your use of words here is telling.

Loki said:
It's almost as if the Biden administration WANTS war (and possible nuclear war) with Russia.
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If your read on the situation is that after months of desperate diplomacy to avert a war that it's actually the West/Biden who wanted it...and also we are in the wrong to help a country defend itself from the Russians, who are committing genocide....you may need to check where your hot takes are coming from. I'll give you a helpful hint: if you're reading some source that claims the Biden admin wants a nuclear war, your source may be an equestrian anus.

Loki said:
Go figure. What I do know is that if you polled Americans, fewer than 20% would be on-board with these types of provocations and actions. But apparently what Americans actually want doesn't matter to the powers that be - they know better than you do.
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You're really losing it when you need to make up stats. Here's my anecdote: I had Sunday dinner with a dozen very conservative people last week and our handling of Ukraine is the only thing they think we're doing right as a country.
 
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FunkMiller

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Chittagong said:
Don’t they have subs ready to shoot nukes tho? Not that I believe he would ever do so. But just in terms of having that capability.
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The logic still applies. The simple fact is that Putin cannot be sure that his ordering the launch of nuclear weapons does not lead to his own very quick death. You see how paranoid he is. He knows he’s being watched - now more than ever. If you were him, would you want to take the chance?

Putin loves only Putin. That’s what’ll keep him from launching nukes. As I said before, he’s a corrupt Maria boss, not a megalomaniac like Hitler.
 
GymWolf

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FunkMiller said:
Okay, let’s interrogate this idea properly.

Nuclear warheads are big. Even the smallest ones. To transport and fit one to a projectile is not the work of a moment.

Right now, Putin is well aware that his military sites are being closely watched by satellite technology. And he can’t be 100% sure that if he calls for a nuclear attack, the west won’t see what he’s up to before he can get it launched. He will be terrified that any movement in that direction results in a cruise missile up his arse.

And Putin wants to live and stay rich more than anything.

There won’t be a nuclear attack launched by Russia.
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Don't they have submarines with nuclear bombs in it?

How do you check that?
 
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Lord Panda

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Tams said:
All the Putler apologists and naïve morons who think this can be solved 'with dialogue' can read this and either change their tune or fuck off.

Here's an excerpt to get you started.



Kill any orc who doesn't run back to Russia. And if they're guilty of such crimes, hunt them down anyway.
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That’s horrific evil shit; and zero repercussions for these animals, if some here have their way.
 
M1chl

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Bluntman said:
You guys are just as much of a hypocrites, as nemiroff pointed out after your post.

We agree that Putins agression must be stopped. We just don't agree on the solution for that is to throw half of Europe back to the middle-ages.

The Czech and Slovak government (among others) can't accept the proposed gas and oil sanctions either. They just strategically always wait for Viktor to come forward first.

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We should be out at the end of the year. We are in talks of taking Oman oil and LNG, to make Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem even more rich.
 
Bo_Hazem

Bo_Hazem

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M1chl said:
We should be out at the end of the year. We are in talks of taking Oman oil and LNG, to make Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem even more rich.
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lots-of-money-gif.gif
 
Bluntman

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M1chl said:
We should be out at the end of the year. We are in talks of taking Oman oil and LNG, to make Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem even more rich.
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Oh the famous human rights center and model democracy Oman you mean? :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

But who am I kidding? Since Poland announced they wouldn't buy Russian gas, so instead they let the Germans buy the bloodstained evil Russian gas, which in Germany gets converted somehow to peaceful democratic gas, so the Poles buy from them. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

And the guys here talking about hipocrisy when all is this just a big fucking theatre.

Orbán at least came out straight and told we don't support these sanctions in their current form because we would be fucked.
 
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M1chl

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Bluntman said:
Oh the famous human rights center and model democracy Oman you mean? :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

But who am I kidding? Since Poland announced they wouldn't buy Russian gas, so instead they let the Germans buy the bloodstained evil Russian gas, where it somehow gets converted to peaceful democratic gas, so the Poles buy from them. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

And the guys here talking about hipocrisy when all is this just a big fucking theatre.

Orbán at least came out straight and told we don't support these sanctions in their current form because we would be fucked.
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Who cares if it's not human right center, at least it's not Russia. Or Hungary for that matter.
 
Tams

Tams

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Bluntman said:
Oh the famous human rights center and model democracy Oman you mean? :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

But who am I kidding? Since Poland announced they wouldn't buy Russian gas, so instead they let the Germans buy the bloodstained evil Russian gas, where it somehow gets converted to peaceful democratic gas, so the Poles buy from them. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

And the guys here talking about hipocrisy when all is this just a big fucking theatre.

Orbán at least came out straight and told we don't support these sanctions in their current form because we would be fucked.
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Oh, we having a pop at Oman now?

They ain't saints, but by Middle Eastern standards they are. Bear in mind that it seems all states need to be a bit repressive there lest the religious fanatics take over (yes, even Saudi Arabia and its psychopath of an effective ruler). Or else they become like Yemen (Oman's neighbour, btw).

And no, the Houthi rebels in Yemen are not all nice and cuddly as some seem to suggest they are and can be reasoned with. It's the same naïve idiots who think Ukraine and Russia could/can just talk this out who believe that.

Hell, judging by what Orbán and his cronies are turning Hungary into, they seem to look like they want to be like Oman.

Oh, and Oman haven't invaded anyone.
 
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RJMacready73

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Loki said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...ssian-flagship-moskva-officials-say-rcna27559

I assume no one in here has a problem with this? The war drums beat loud in here. Very nearsighted - or intentionally provocative - to be announcing our complicity like that. It's almost as if the Biden administration WANTS war (and possible nuclear war) with Russia. Go figure. What I do know is that if you polled Americans, fewer than 20% would be on-board with these types of provocations and actions. But apparently what Americans actually want doesn't matter to the powers that be - they know better than you do.
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+100 Roubles into your account you wanksock
 
Romulus

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Meicyn said:
lmao

imagine thinking this makes your opinion any more valid
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I think it can be insightful beyond what a nornal person experiences. Navy personnel have usually seen a great deal of the world and interacted with various cultures. But his job is also very important too, was he a deck hand, pilot, SEAL, or intel operator? All valid considerations but to generally give someone's opinion more weight because 'military' is too much.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Bluntman said:
Oh the famous human rights center and model democracy Oman you mean? :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

But who am I kidding? Since Poland announced they wouldn't buy Russian gas, so instead they let the Germans buy the bloodstained evil Russian gas, which in Germany gets converted somehow to peaceful democratic gas, so the Poles buy from them. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

And the guys here talking about hipocrisy when all is this just a big fucking theatre.

Orbán at least came out straight and told we don't support these sanctions in their current form because we would be fucked.
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Mate, what human rights violations have we did? :lollipop_tears_of_joy: I'm 100% there are no dead homeless people on the road like I've seen in Washington DC back when I was in the US, if there are any homeless people to begin with. We have beggars that some of them are quite rich and probably make more money than I do due to people overpaying them in general with 1 OMR ($2.6) being the standard and some pay way more. We're not rich, and we're not democratic, but we're doing ok, much better than most of the world, honestly.
 
Nikodemos

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Durien

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Meicyn said:
lmao

imagine thinking this makes your opinion any more valid
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LOL, no. I meant it as a point to say I had experience in the military and used to have a vague understanding of how we operated. Now we just tell everyone what we do over Twitter.

Get off my lawn ;)
 
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Durien

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Meicyn said:
showing up for pt at 0500 and hazing pogs doesnt give you insight on foreign policy lmao
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ROFL!!!
Also I think people are thinking way too much on nukes and not much on other means. Look at Covid. Took two years to get a clamp down on it. That's two years of live data. Everyone knows nukes destroy the world and no one wins. What if, as Russia, I start innoculating my public under the guise "Ukraine has been working on something terrible that our spies managed to gather intel on?" Then you release a supped up version of Covid. Hell you could even say, countries x, y, and z were making this concoction and when people start getting this variant in the countries suspected...

I don't believe any country would use nukes as it is just suicide and nothing to rule over. I think many countries can take the last 2 years of covid data and come up with more nefarious...
 
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Brazen

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FunkMiller said:
Then it’s an extremely stupid opposition. This isn’t going to end with harsh words. It ends with as many dead Russian soldiers as possible.

If people are opposed to this conflict on the grounds of ‘all war is bad’ then they are tacitly (or perhaps not so tacitly) supportive of Putin.
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I agree with you first sentence, I don't with the second one and here's why:

Regardless of mine or your opinion on the war, other's feelings about this war and wars in general are different and that's not getting into an individual's circumstances. A poor young individual working 2 jobs to make end's meat for his family, for instance, isn't going to be as involved as I am with only one job and being older and more concerned with the world at large.

That doesn't give me a reason to assume intent and then shame that individual or said group or a group that individual is a part of just because they don't have the exact same experience as I have with following the war. It could be ignorance, it could be lack of time, it could be laziness/negligence, but one thing for sure is that war and all the circumstances involving it is not a black/white issue. Nor will shaming people without any proof to having the effect you desire, in fact if you start throwing shade it will just piss people off and do the contrary.

None of what I just said however has anything to do with what Russia deserves, what the western alliances should be doing to prevent any further atrocities. They absolutely should get their comeuppance for every single war crime and genocide acts committed. But as you said this doesn't end with harsh words so no reason to fling it at the people not involved in this or engaged for whatever reason.
 
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