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Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
As someone who is far from being a fan of the person in question (focus on politics alienates me really, really fast) I like how this thread has devolved into fighting over whether he holds certain political ideas or not.
It's almost like someone around here believes that it's entirely justified to blacklist someone from gaming coverage due to his political ideas. That's pretty screwed up.
It's almost like someone around here believes that it's entirely justified to blacklist someone from gaming coverage due to his political ideas. That's pretty screwed up.
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alabtrosMyster
Member
I laugh every time I see it!
Can you provide some examples, I'm all for people having consequences for their actions, but so far these attempts at smears are either lies or ill-informed.
Latest example of people getting away with actual bad behavior, Antifa stopping an old lady from crossing the street, she was lucky they did not carry bike locks and milk shakes:
That joke isn't funny at all, and work places have different standards because of how you have to treat your fellow workers. He made a joke that some people decided to take literally (which is not only bad form, it's clearly a lack of humor, I wouldn't be friend with someone like you).
<-- apparently this is as bad as theNot sure what you are talking about:
As a group, they generally put in the work, they often reap the rewards, these datas can be confirmed by multiple sources.
Also if you take white skinned populations from different origins you end up with pretty big variations, I can't find the source now, but basically white populations from French origin may as well have their face painted black (yup, do the black face) because they are much poorer than the average (Russians descendants apparently do particularly well).
You get the idea, it's the same thing among Black populations, some do more - as a group - than the average white people as a group as well. Also on the good news side, black americans have done better and better economically since the 1960s EXCEPT DURING THE OBAMA YEARS.
So I'm not sure where you are going with this, sure there are people who are doing really really bad in all groups (I saw an homeless Asian guy on the street just yesterday, I think the patriarchy put him there).
Pointing these statistics isn't racist, if you are trying to make a judgement call about the situation of large group of people you can't just listen two or tree anecdotes, you have to see how they are representative of the whole (maybe help those who needs it most, no matter what. I grew up in a small town, one of the poorest area in my country, plenty of people need help there and there is one black family in the town, well guess what, the mayor is black).
I won't get into the whole current state of racism and white supremacy aspect of it, if you have to chase something like it's the boogeyman, or conspire that it's everywhere yet nobody can see it... well, you are completely off of the list of reasonable people.
So in the end: pointing at inequalities does not negate all the progress we have made as a society in regards to multi-ethnic integration and acceptance of people from different background - if anything, the most racist things I heard about immigrants and immigration came from the mouth of immigrants (like things I would not be allowed to say, I'd get fired for it - on the spot).
2+2 = 4 this is as bad as the
now a days (and this may be why I get in trouble with the stats I posted above).Not sure if you are joking, either way, I got triggered by your use of the R word!
Shifty1897
Member
They have to come bitch about him here. Speaking his name isn't allowed on RE, ain't that some Harry Potter shit.
It's not a problem for Colin that Sony has blacklisted him, he's got the money and fanbase to keep doing what he's doing. It's just disappointing.
S
SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
I laugh every time I see it!
Can you provide some examples, I'm all for people having consequences for their actions, but so far these attempts at smears are either lies or ill-informed.
Latest example of people getting away with actual bad behavior, Antifa stopping an old lady from crossing the street, she was lucky they did not carry bike locks and milk shakes:
That joke isn't funny at all, and work places have different standards because of how you have to treat your fellow workers. He made a joke that some people decided to take literally (which is not only bad form, it's clearly a lack of humor, I wouldn't be friend with someone like you).
Not sure what you are talking about:
As a group, they generally put in the work, they often reap the rewards, these datas can be confirmed by multiple sources.
Also if you take white skinned populations from different origins you end up with pretty big variations, I can't find the source now, but basically white populations from French origin may as well have their face painted black (yup, do the black face) because they are much poorer than the average (Russians descendants apparently do particularly well).
You get the idea, it's the same thing among Black populations, some do more - as a group - than the average white people as a group as well. Also on the good news side, black americans have done better and better economically since the 1960s EXCEPT DURING THE OBAMA YEARS.
So I'm not sure where you are going with this, sure there are people who are doing really really bad in all groups (I saw an homeless Asian guy on the street just yesterday, I think the patriarchy put him there).
Pointing these statistics isn't racist, if you are trying to make a judgement call about the situation of large group of people you can't just listen two or tree anecdotes, you have to see how they are representative of the whole (maybe help those who needs it most, no matter what. I grew up in a small town, one of the poorest area in my country, plenty of people need help there and there is one black family in the town, well guess what, the mayor is black).
I won't get into the whole current state of racism and white supremacy aspect of it, if you have to chase something like it's the boogeyman, or conspire that it's everywhere yet nobody can see it... well, you are completely off of the list of reasonable people.
So in the end: pointing at inequalities does not negate all the progress we have made as a society in regards to multi-ethnic integration and acceptance of people from different background - if anything, the most racist things I heard about immigrants and immigration came from the mouth of immigrants (like things I would not be allowed to say, I'd get fired for it - on the spot).
2+2 = 4 this is as bad as the
Not sure if you are joking, either way, I got triggered by your use of the R word!
Look at the original tweet and his follow up and tell me how that makes any sense without swapping white supremacist with white privilege. Also people say retarded all the time here do you quote them over it every time?
desertdroog
Member
I believe you.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
gunslikewhoa
Member
I'm almost embarrassed for you.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
Bryank75
Banned
As someone who is far from being a fan of the person in question (focus on politics alienates me really, really fast) I like how this thread has devolved into fighting over whether he holds certain political ideas or not.
It's almost like someone around here believes that it's entirely justified to blacklist someone from gaming coverage due to his political ideas. That's pretty screwed up.
Spot on!
For the record, Trey Parker and Matt Stone are also Libertarian.... so if you don't like Colin, I guess you can't like South Park or Team America or the Book of Mormon.
"In the United States, polls (circa 2006) find that the views and voting habits of between 10 and 20 percent (and increasing) of voting age Americans may be classified as "fiscally conservative and socially liberal, or libertarian"
MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
jadefire66
Member
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GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
You guys keep talking about the tweet. Uninformed, misquoting, like if using Google was so fucking hard.
The # was trending, he added that. That's it.
Still funny as hell.
KiNeMz
Banned
No. He's more left and liberal than a nazi. I love his podcast. The only one I enjoy today.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
The kind of dark, edgy, extremely controversial humor you'd only see on NC-17 rated shows like Everybody Loves Raymond.
Bryank75
Banned
alabtrosMyster
Member
See uused a forbidden word again.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I like him. Dude is making pretty good bank through patreon so fuck sony as far as I'm concerned.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Anyone got a recap of CM stuff that pissed off Sony?
Barakov
Gold Member
Bryank75
Banned
I think it is broadly political, they see the larger portion of online fans and workforce are very liberal or far left and want to be seen as 'on-side'
They are just playing the numbers and doing what makes sense given current trends.
FranXico
Member
I agree that they think they are pleasing the majority, but they could not be any more wrong about that.
JLB
Banned
I showed that quote to my wife back then, and she laughed to cry.
Btw, that phrase ‘these kind of jokes...’ jeez. Please no. Stick and stones is the best standup in years.
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I think it is more of a louder portion than larger.
Bryank75
Banned
Yes, I agree.
Thabass
Member
Nothing and that's why his him being blacklisted is bullshit.
Shai-Tan
Banned
I laugh every time I see it!
Can you provide some examples, I'm all for people having consequences for their actions, but so far these attempts at smears are either lies or ill-informed.
Latest example of people getting away with actual bad behavior, Antifa stopping an old lady from crossing the street, she was lucky they did not carry bike locks and milk shakes:
That joke isn't funny at all, and work places have different standards because of how you have to treat your fellow workers. He made a joke that some people decided to take literally (which is not only bad form, it's clearly a lack of humor, I wouldn't be friend with someone like you).
Not sure what you are talking about:
As a group, they generally put in the work, they often reap the rewards, these datas can be confirmed by multiple sources.
Also if you take white skinned populations from different origins you end up with pretty big variations, I can't find the source now, but basically white populations from French origin may as well have their face painted black (yup, do the black face) because they are much poorer than the average (Russians descendants apparently do particularly well).
You get the idea, it's the same thing among Black populations, some do more - as a group - than the average white people as a group as well. Also on the good news side, black americans have done better and better economically since the 1960s EXCEPT DURING THE OBAMA YEARS.
So I'm not sure where you are going with this, sure there are people who are doing really really bad in all groups (I saw an homeless Asian guy on the street just yesterday, I think the patriarchy put him there).
Pointing these statistics isn't racist, if you are trying to make a judgement call about the situation of large group of people you can't just listen two or tree anecdotes, you have to see how they are representative of the whole (maybe help those who needs it most, no matter what. I grew up in a small town, one of the poorest area in my country, plenty of people need help there and there is one black family in the town, well guess what, the mayor is black).
I won't get into the whole current state of racism and white supremacy aspect of it, if you have to chase something like it's the boogeyman, or conspire that it's everywhere yet nobody can see it... well, you are completely off of the list of reasonable people.
So in the end: pointing at inequalities does not negate all the progress we have made as a society in regards to multi-ethnic integration and acceptance of people from different background - if anything, the most racist things I heard about immigrants and immigration came from the mouth of immigrants (like things I would not be allowed to say, I'd get fired for it - on the spot).
2+2 = 4 this is as bad as the
Not sure if you are joking, either way, I got triggered by your use of the R word!
"EXCEPT DURING THE OBAMA YEARS "
it could be argued that after the financial crisis of 2008 which predated his inauguration, the Obama administration should have provided more assistance to homeowners than corporate welfare but that wouldn't be on message. wait, what's this thread about? lol
bitbydeath
Member
That’d be retarded if they did.
alabtrosMyster
Member
Not exactly, the gap has grown (don't ask me what policies he may have instored for this, I don't think he is against black skinned people, but he may not have helped them).
I find this factoid interesting mainly because it shows some inconsistencies between the discourse and the reality. That is a pretty big gap, people need some serious help to get out of this (I mean, the average black/hispanic person in the US is just poor) - to e fair the trend seems to have started before he got into office, but still, his actions did not seem to help.
Before we go full political, I don't care for Trump either, I don't think he did anything particularly great (he does some pretty bad stuff for the environment, but he did not start any war, even when clearly provoked by Iran, or when North Korea pressed his buttons, so there is that at least)... I would not vote if I lived in the US.
GametimeUK
Member
The world has gone mad.
SlashBringingHasher
Banned
I think he made a joke on twitter two years ago about women being more talkative then men. [/QUOTE said:
Shai-Tan
Banned
Not exactly, the gap has grown (don't ask me what policies he may have instored for this, I don't think he is against black skinned people, but he may not have helped them).
I find this factoid interesting mainly because it shows some inconsistencies between the discourse and the reality. That is a pretty big gap, people need some serious help to get out of this (I mean, the average black/hispanic person in the US is just poor) - to e fair the trend seems to have started before he got into office, but still, his actions did not seem to help.
Before we go full political, I don't care for Trump either, I don't think he did anything particularly great (he does some pretty bad stuff for the environment, but he did not start any war, even when clearly provoked by Iran, or when North Korea pressed his buttons, so there is that at least)... I would not vote if I lived in the US.
"
Enticed by relaxed lending policies and plenty of affordable housing, African Americans purchased homes in record numbers at the peak of the housing bubble. But when the market collapsed — bringing the economy to its knees a decade ago — the foreclosure crisis that followed hit African Americans particularly hard.
About 8 percent of black homeowners lost their homes to foreclosure from 2007 to 2009, according to the Center for Responsible Lending. That’s almost twice the rate for white homeowners.
Richard and Vanessa Bulnes visit the East Oakland neighborhood where they once owned a house. The couple now rent a house nearby. Vanessa Bulnes prepares a meal in the kitchen of their rental.
High-income black households were also targeted with risky subprime loans at the height of the housing boom, research shows.
In 2006, amid the real estate run-up, black families earning more than $200,000 annually were more likely on average to be given a subprime loan than a white family making $30,000 a year, according to research by Jacob William Faber, a sociologist at New York University who studies racial economic disparity. Analyzing nearly 4 million loan applications nationwide, Faber found that blacks were more than twice as likely to receive a subprime loan than white applicants.
“The financial crisis triggered a massive destruction of wealth for African Americans,” said McCargo, who pointed to Federal Reserve data showing the median net worth of white families today at nearly 10 times that of black families. “Wealth is inextricably linked to housing, and that wealth gap is evident in figures for black-owned property in this country.”
"
anyway no one here is really in a position to say anything authoritative and so it's just passing conversation. data is not that useful without additional context about the wealth gap
How does anyone even remotely sane, equivocate Colin making a joke about peace and quiet without women around, with physically grabbing a woman and telling her that if slavery were still a thing she'd be getting raped right then and there?
That's... REALLY faulty "logic".
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So he is not uneducated and unintelligent?
Ohhhh we are on ERA again lol
People doing defense control to the indefensible.
I feel bad for you if you believe what he wrote is some kind of joke.
Is this deadpan?
If so, stick a spork in it - it's dead, Jim.
zwiggelbig
Member
yea that was a good joke actually :/
bosnianpie
Member
Spreading lies about people is not cool at all and you should be ashamed of yourself. It doesn't matter that you're doing it towards a public figure through the anonymity of Internet. It does harm to people both physically and mentally, so cut that shit out.
Having listened to Colin for many, many hours I can confirm that he holds no extreme opinions. So instead of being a parrot and repeat what other people say about him you should listen to his podcasts and learn that he's actually a very decent guy that produces great content.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Both.
Memorabilia
Member
My concern with this SJW bullshit is primarily that it's a form of contagious mental illness that spreads quickly from true believers to new inductees. I've seen people close to me influenced by this shit and it sickens me because the pseudo intellectual stance encourages shutting down rather than engaging in any kind of actual nuanced constructive debate. These people are God damn nut jobs spreading cult like reactionary group non-think.
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Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
You have to temper expectations when you realize who you're talking to.
Great Hair
Banned
I´ve never liked them, an Xbox and a Nintendo fanboi via IGN got to some fame (apparently) talking about PlayStation. I don´t get the appeal of them, retelling a weeks/months old story like most youtuber do?
A recollection of past news in video form, in this case via audio of topics we´ve already read elsewhere days before. TO ME just another youtuber a la yongyea, the quaterian etc. specifically "targeting" a certain demographic. You like him, good. You don´t like him, good.
And what if his claims are unfunded, plain wrong? He is most likely on many blacklists, so what? He still has his audience ... do we have to blacklist Sony now?
A recollection of past news in video form, in this case via audio of topics we´ve already read elsewhere days before. TO ME just another youtuber a la yongyea, the quaterian etc. specifically "targeting" a certain demographic. You like him, good. You don´t like him, good.
And what if his claims are unfunded, plain wrong? He is most likely on many blacklists, so what? He still has his audience ... do we have to blacklist Sony now?
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
What's wrong with posting facts? Anyone with half a brain knows that racism is just a political tool to be exploited. Sure, actual racism exists, but it is miniscule compared to hundreds of actual problems we should be worried about. The vast majority of people are not racist.Look at any of his history lol
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CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
decisions
Member
So I finally listened to the podcast, basically every time he's asked for games/contact from Sony in the past month and a half, he has received no response. He also didn't get invited to THE TLOU2 event even though he lives nearby ND's office. So, he's done asking for games from them but wishes them no ill-will, and says that if they ever want to work together again, Sony can reach out to them. So they will not be able to play Sony games (such as Death Stranding) until they came out.
Timestamp on the YT vid is 8:35.
Timestamp on the YT vid is 8:35.
