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[GigaBowser]

perdiction will make me a legend ahah bookmarked

I arrrmrmmmm the spirit of gameing

 

[Lunarorbit]

Expect 3rd party support to be slightly better than Nintendo online.

Only slightly

 

[RetroGamingUK]

First half of the gen will be like the SNES days with plenty of multiplats.

Second half will be different as more games will push PS5 and PC resulting in fewer ports.

Xbox will be long dead by then.

 

[Trilobit]

I wanted to make sure I communicated in the language of GigaBowser's people so I asked for help from ChatGPT describing my thoughts on the topic:

 

[HogIsland]

The same gulf between Switch and PS4 will exist between Switch 2 and PS5. Probably Switch 2 will remain a really bad place to play online games.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

It's still not gonna be getting games that really take advantage of PS5/XSX, it's nowhere near that level. Or they will be trash ports.

Either way, I think it's gonna do well but not as well as the original. A lot of casuals aren't gonna see the need to upgrade.

This. I think it’ll reach at least 100 million, but doubtful it matches the first Switch.

 

[RoboFu]

Oh deverstation for sure...

 

[m14]

The real game changer would be if Game Pass appears on Switch 2.

 

[m14]

First half of the gen will be like the SNES days with plenty of multiplats.

Second half will be different as more games will push PS5 and PC resulting in fewer ports.

Xbox will be long dead by then.

How so? The Series consoles have sold around 30 million and it's not like it is too challenging to port from PS5 to Series X and vice versa. The Switch 2 will have hardware more in line with the Series S meaning there should be a very solid third party pipeline for both those systems. Exciting times ahead.

 

[LordOcidax]

Even Sony is going to make games for the Switch 2… Save this post.

 

[GigaBowser]

I wanted to make sure I communicated in the language of GigaBowser's people so I asked for help from ChatGPT describing my thoughts on the topic:

dont use crud words like this

EMOTIONAL CRATERED?? ahah noooooo

 

[LordOcidax]

First half of the gen will be like the SNES days with plenty of multiplats.

Second half will be different as more games will push PS5 and PC resulting in fewer ports.

Xbox will be long dead by then.

Do you really believe this?

 

[Alexios]

3rd parties better go all in or more will shut down. Nintendo's games sell = coattails to ride. If you add up all Nintendo's Switch games it's a few hundred millions sales = the bulk of its 1.3+ billion software sales were 3rd party (and many simultaneous mutliplatform games sold great or best on it).

First half of the gen will be like the SNES days with plenty of multiplats.

Second half will be different as more games will push PS5 and PC resulting in fewer ports.

Xbox will be long dead by then.

I think you meant to write PS6, I doubt PS5 will be so relevant on Switch 2's second half of life... As for ports, we'll have to see how it handles stuff, like if it's even possible to port most games with just turning down settings/fps or they require complete reworking top to bottom a la Witcher 3 Switch.

 

[yurinka]

Switch 1 sells 150 millions with crud AAA

Iffffff Switch 2 has all these rumor AAA games game over bookmark confirmed?

Tell me my friends what will happen if Nintendo gets for real third party.

I think as always third parties will show some minor support the first year, but after realizing that again, as happened since the N64, most AAA 3rd parties don't sell well enough on Nintendo, they'll gradually drop support particularly in the more demanding AAA games that can't run there decently.

I think it will start strong with indies/smaller games, but I think in the mid/long term PC handhelds will raise their popularity (as Xbox and PS join the wagon) and Switch will stop being the default indies portable device, as PS Vita was before it.

I think Switch 2 will perform well (so over 100M), but not as successful as Switch 1 (so under 150M). And won't change anything for the 3rd parties, particularly the AAA ones since most of them won't be able to achieve decent performance due to lack of horsepower or sales.

I also think that 3rd parties instead of releasing day one their new PS5 or PS6 gen AAA games they'll mainly port there old PS4 gen games.

 

[Kings Field]

 

[rm082e]

Thr arc of the Switch 2 will be very similar to the Switch. There will be more Western publisher support up front, then that will fade over time just like it does every cycle. A larger percentage of games from Eastern publishers will be on Switch 2, just like previous generations. I think the biggest difference between Switch and Switch 2 will be long term sales numbers.

I don't see any variables changing enough to think it's going to have a different place in the gaming ecosystem.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Getting more ports is just a nice bonus for the console while the driving force will always be Nintendo's games. Still going to stand by my prediction that the Switch 2 sales will be just slightly behind the Switch 1 for their lifetime.

 

[Katajx]

I don’t think devastation was the word you were looking for here. That implies to me that it would be bad for them.

Maybe domination would of worked as the opposite.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

I think you meant to write PS6, I doubt PS5 will be so relevant on Switch 2's second half of life... As for ports, we'll have to see how it handles stuff, like if it's even possible to port most games with just turning down settings/fps or they require complete reworking top to bottom a la Witcher 3 Switch.

Nah, cross gen between PS5 and PS6 will last long into 2032, but those games may be beyond Switch 2’s capabilities.

 

[GigaBowser]

I think as always third parties will show some minor support the first year, but after realizing that again, as happened since the N64, most AAA 3rd parties don't sell well enough on Nintendo, they'll gradually drop support particularly in the more demanding AAA games that can't run there decently.

I think it will start strong with indies/smaller games, but I think in the mid/long term PC handhelds will raise their popularity (as Xbox and PS join the wagon) and Switch will stop being the default indies portable device, as PS Vita was before it.

I think Switch 2 will perform well (so over 100M), but not as successful as Switch 1 (so under 150M). And won't change anything for the 3rd parties, particularly the AAA ones since most of them won't be able to achieve decent performance due to lack of horsepower or sales.

I also think that 3rd parties instead of releasing day one their new PS5 or PS6 gen AAA games they'll mainly port there old PS4 gen games.

nopes switch 1 indie annnnd aaa third party OLD ports sell good but tegra nort have the power for new games plus then switch 1 sells 150 millions

switch 2 new games day 0 even ms flight sims AAA nvidia custom chip DLSS 4.0 special sauces game over

 

[ManaByte]

 

[GigaBowser]

Thr arc of the Switch 2 will be very similar to the Switch. There will be more Western publisher support up front, then that will fade over time just like it does every cycle. A larger percentage of games from Eastern publishers will be on Switch 2, just like previous generations. I think the biggest difference between Switch and Switch 2 will be long term sales numbers.

I don't see any variables changing enough to think it's going to have a different place in the gaming ecosystem.

ahah nooooo switch 2 custom processer plus comes out after switch 1 sells 150 million

switch 1 after wii u sells 12 million

 

[RetroGamingUK]

How so? The Series consoles have sold around 30 million and it's not like it is too challenging to port from PS5 to Series X and vice versa. The Switch 2 will have hardware more in line with the Series S meaning there should be a very solid third party pipeline for both those systems. Exciting times ahead.

No one other than Xbots is going to buy Xbox consoles now their big franchise games are coming to PS5 and Switch 2.

You think last year’s 2.7m consoles sold was bad, wait til you see how many they sell in 2025.

 

[Dacvak]

Hardly anybody uses Nintendo as their go to place for third party games. Even if Switch 2 is more capable and better supported, they'll still be less capable than a PS5 and soon PS6.

I use my Switch for basically ALL indie games, which is technically third-party.

 

[GigaBowser]

uhhhhhh oohhhhhh im winning the thread ahah

Starfield, Fable y Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 llegarán a PlayStation 5 y Switch 2, según nuestras fuentes

Tras el anunciado Forza Horizon 5 y los rumoreados Halo: The Master Chief Collection o Gears of War, Microsoft adaptará más títulos de su catálogo pasado y futuro.

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[Dacvak]

Sometimes I think that GigaBowser is the same person as that dude who eats candles and makes blog posts on his youtube community page.

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I plug Apple into Earth magnetic field

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[DenchDeckard]

Switch 2 is going to dominate everything from the second it launches.

New Mario kart, metroid prime, Mario.

If they have the stock they could sell like 15 million launch year.

 

[xandaca]

Nintendo are as adept at snatch defeat from the jaws of success as vice-versa. The 3DS should have been a slam-dunk and they massively overpriced it and launched without any compelling games. The massive success of the Wii turned into the Wii U (and that massive failure turned into the massive success of the Switch). Further back, the N64 was a major flop after Nintendo reneged on a deal with Sony to create a SNES add-on, leading to the creation of the PS1. Arrogance has taken them down before, as it did Sony with the PS3 and Microsoft with pretty much everything after the XBox One (arguably that console as well), so even though they're sitting pretty now, if they overprice the Switch 2, fail to launch it with a compelling lineup, don't properly communicate to people how it differs from the original and why an upgrade is needed, etc., it could very easily be another fall from grace from a console manufacturer feeling a bit too pleased with itself.

 

[rm082e]

ahah nooooo switch 2 custom processer plus comes out after switch 1 sells 150 million

switch 1 after wii u sells 12 million

Yeah, the WiiU was a dud. My memory of the N64, GameCube, and Wii is there was more support from NA and EU publishers early on in those hardware lifecycles and they trailed off after a few years. I didn't follow the DS/3DS, but I don't remember hearing about big selling hits from Western publishers. If you look at the list of best selling Switch games, the list is dominated by Nintendo.

Put another way, I don't see Switch 2 becoming the lead platform for sales multiplatform Western games.

 

[fallingdove]

Switch 1 sells 150 millions with crud AAA

Iffffff Switch 2 has all these rumor AAA games game over bookmark confirmed?

Tell me my friends what will happen if Nintendo gets for real third party.

Hot takes on repeat from the dyslexic forum baby. Nearly identical to 3 other threads you have created but I guess this one at least has a poll.

No, Switch 2 isn’t going to get some crazy increase in 3rd party AAA games, it’s going to get titles from the PS4 era plus a few stripped down titles that release on the power twins / PC — just like the last 3 Nintendo consoles.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Hardly anybody uses Nintendo as their go to place for third party games. Even if Switch 2 is more capable and better supported, they'll still be less capable than a PS5 and soon PS6.

Yes, because they typically don’t get major third party support. Switch 2 might get that though, it would be a huge difference.

 

[GigaBowser]

Hot takes on repeat from the dyslexic forum baby. Nearly identical to 3 other threads you have created but I guess this one at least has a poll.

No, Switch 2 isn’t going to get some crazy increase in 3rd party AAA games, it’s going to get titles from the PS4 era plus a few stripped down titles that release on the power twins / PC — just like the last 3 Nintendo consoles.

I smell feeeeeearrr ahaha

 

[Markio128]

 

[Majima Everywhere System]

Give the recent “success” of big budget games, Switch 2 will be the denominator. Other consoles will add lighting and reflection tech, but it will all be scoped and built to work on Switch 2.

 

[E-Cat]

Not with that controller

 

[Horseganador]

Although it will have more third-party support than the first Switch, in the end what will sell the most are Nintendo's first-party games on Switch 2; there are better options for playing third-party games.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Although it will have more third-party support than the first Switch, in the end what will sell the most are Nintendo's first-party games on Switch 2; there are better options for playing third-party games.

It's not all about hardware power - Sony ran away with the Ps2 generation, the weakest of the hardware available at market.

 

[A.Romero]

It might cannibalize steam deck and similar platforms but I can't picture a lot of people abandoning PC or home consoles completely.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

More third party support in total (including more PS4 games that weren't possible), but the situation with newer AAA games will be even worse than it was with Switch.

 

[m14]

No one other than Xbots is going to buy Xbox consoles now their big franchise games are coming to PS5 and Switch 2.

You think last year’s 2.7m consoles sold was bad, wait til you see how many they sell in 2025.

Where did I mention future console sales? As ever you're desperate to ignore than there's around 30 million Series consoles that have already been sold.

 

[Clear]

Its still a massive outlier technologically, and in fact may possibly be an even bigger headache for devs because although its a tier below current gen, even maxing that out takes a lot of time, money, and manpower.

Objectively, would a third party ever want to lead development on Switch 2 then branch (port) out to PC, Playstation and Xbox ? Especially when by the time it catches up install-base wise to PS5 next gen will be knocking on the door or perhaps even arrived.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Where did I mention future console sales? As ever you're desperate to ignore than there's around 30 million Series consoles that have already been sold.

It’s been on the market for 4 years now, that’s quite pathetic.

Do you see them selling another 5-10 million, seriously?

It’s obvious now that Microsoft don’t value this tiny player-base.

 

[OuterLimits]

Many games will be developed to support a wide variety of hardware, there's a lot of options out there. The Switch 2 is not particularly compelling when it comes to playing these games, as its hardware is set to be weaker than the Xbox Series S, and the CPU will significantly limit the more ambitious games. There's also a lot more competition in the portable space now and that will only continue into the future. We're being quite premature in crowning the Switch 2 a massive success, as with Nintendo hardware of the past, it's a bit of a wild card.

So no. It will be more widely adopted than the Switch 1, but it will always play third fiddle to other platforms. Dreaming for more is just pure hopium.

Which portable/handheld Nintendo system has bombed? I don't think any have. The Switch fits more into that category and Nintendo bailed on the traditional console.

3rd party support on Switch was very good, and quite a few sold quite well.(Civilization, Hogwarts, Doom,Witcher 3, No Man's Sky,etc..)

However, I expect AA 3rd party software from Japan will be the most prevalent on Switch 2, just like the original.

 

[nordique]

It would be nice if they're on par graphically with PS and XBox.

If performance is several notches below, like Witcher 3 on switch for example, I'm out. Switch 2 will be 1st party only for me and thats OK.

There’s only so much a small tablet is going to be able to match wrt ps5 and sx

It will be better than switch 1 vs ps4/xb1 as in a smaller gap but you shouldn’t expect it to be a portable ps5 or series X

 

[m14]

It’s been on the market for 4 years now, that’s quite pathetic.

Do you see them selling another 5-10 million, seriously?

It’s obvious now that Microsoft don’t value this tiny player-base.

I don't know about future sales. MS aren't even keeping their consoles in stock in some countries. They could get a boost from GTA if they have enough units available for sale.

30 million is hardly tiny, that's gross hyperbole. That's a more befitting description of something like Wii U sales figures.
My point is that there is no reason for publishers not to keep supporting the Series consoles for the rest of this generation.

 

[POKEYCLYDE]

Yes, because they typically don’t get major third party support. Switch 2 might get that though, it would be a huge difference.

Switch has sold 146 million units. Why isn't it getting the major third party support? The financial incentive is there for third parties. So why?

Why would the Switch 2 which is rumored to be weaker than the series S suddenly get all the support that even the massively successful Switch isn't?

 

[Bernardougf]

Every gen ... every freaking gen.

 

[AJUMP23]

I am sure it will be good. But if there is tech that surpasses easy porting 3rd party will limit support.

 

[ArtHands]

They are releasing a console that will maybe allow for more or less PS4One games when everybody is moving to PS5Series games.

You can be sure that third party support will be limited for the exact same reason as for Switch 1, which was more or less at PS360 level.

Seems like every current gen games like Astro Bot and Sackboy are technically possible on PS4One consoles anyway. If PS4 can run Ghost of Tsushima or Like a Dragon, no reason to think why it can't technically handle Ghost of Yotei or Like a Dragon Pirate.

 

[DeceptiveAlarm]

I voted deverstation. Google says this about it.

Deverstation may refer to a brown gelding horse born in New Zealand in 2012. His sire was Shamoline Warrior, and his dam was Mylor.

I like horses.