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[DrFigs]

I'm saying the numbers cant be trusted because DOGE is run by seemingly incompetent people and they are constantly making mistakes, like confusing 8 million dollars in savings with 8 billion dollars of savings. If they're making these kinds of glaring errors, why should i assume they got everything else right?

 

[Ozriel]

The irony...

 

[JayK47]

This reminds me of the saying "You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain". It was not that long ago that everybody was gushing over Elon, now they all hate him. My opinion of him has largely remained the same. I think he does enough good that I can overlook the stupid shit he does. He is involved in too many projects and is not doing a good job of managing any of them. Regarding Tesla, I think he should step down as CEO. I do not think he is currently bringing any value as CEO.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Their stock surged after trump won. Considering the type of liberals that buy Tesla's and where musk was going. Surely anyone could have seen this coming?

Wait for the stock to drop. Hear rumours of Elon stepping down. Then buy.

 

[RJMacready73]

Work | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency

Work | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency.

doge.gov

Read the receipts and cope more.

Ahh the receipts from the department of lies and misdirection... aye m8 its all there black and white like..

8 million spent on transgender mice.... transgender mice... meanwhile Elon gets another government contract handed to him whilst all the morons scream about transgender mice

 

[DeafTourette]

Ahh the receipts from the department of lies and misdirection... aye m8 its all there black and white like..

8 million spent on transgender mice.... transgender mice... meanwhile Elon gets another government contract handed to him whilst all the morons scream about transgender mice

I saw that and it makes no sense. "Transgender animals" is not a thing. At least not a REAL thing in science. While some might say sexuality is fluid, it doesn't mean a mouse or a dolphin is going around calling itself another gender.

Culture War nonsense!

 

[Punished Miku]

Ahh the receipts from the department of lies and misdirection...

They literally just repeated the lie about millions of payments going to dead people from social security. It's been corrected many, many times. It's not an accident. Just lying repeatedly so they can make their cuts and call it waste / fraud / abuse.

Saw a recent Trumper interview after they got fired. Fascinating stuff. This was someone who just lost their job saying they still "believe in the mission" but resented losing their job. It apparently didn't dawn on her that she is the waste fraud and abuse. Poor people on medicaid, that's the waste fraud and abuse. Life saving medications to limit international deaths from extreme poverty and disease, waste fraud and abuse. Regulators, air traffic controllers, the military staff literally in charge of monitoring our nuclear weapons - waste fraud and abuse.

 

[BlackTron]

Some people know when to call BS that a "gameplay" trailer is prerendered, even when it came from their favorite company, because...duh. You've been around long enough. It jumps off the screen. It's elementary. Other's don't have the same sensitivity.

Lot of people in the "don't" category, metaphorically speaking....

 

[Wandering Leopard]

A perfect example of the emotional nature of humanity - of course the circumstances will differ (depending on who we are and what's happened), but we're all capable of displaying this type of behaviour.

 

[BlackTron]

I saw that and it makes no sense. "Transgender animals" is not a thing. At least not a REAL thing in science. While some might say sexuality is fluid, it doesn't mean a mouse or a dolphin is going around calling itself another gender.

Culture War nonsense!

It's about trans-genic mice, not transgender. Transgenic refers to the science of swapping genes for research purposes. Such as, mice with specific genes for testing purposes that make the findings more applicable to humans.

Trump just saw "Transgen", flipped, and defunded.

 

[RJMacready73]

It's about trans-genic mice, not transgender. Transgenic refers to the science of swapping genes for research purposes. Such as, mice with specific genes for testing purposes that make the findings more applicable to humans.

Trump just saw "Transgen", flipped, and defunded.

we all know that but it shows how easy a certain demographic are too wind up and distract

 

[DeafTourette]

It's about trans-genic mice, not transgender. Transgenic refers to the science of swapping genes for research purposes. Such as, mice with specific genes for testing purposes that make the findings more applicable to humans.

Trump just saw "Transgen", flipped, and defunded.

Idiotic! This whole administration is on bath salts.

 

[Ovek]

Idiotic! This whole administration is on bath salts.

You know they just opened the budget spreadsheet and just searched for "Trans"

 

[Days like these...]

It appears that the same mental illness that can make a person a Disney, Star Wars, Marvel and Xbox shill applies to Musk and Trump fandom.

Curious that you left out Sony and Apple shills

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Curious that you left out Sony and Apple shills

We're not shills, we're warriors

 

[JimmyRustler]

Man, it’ll be funny looking back at such threads in a year or two and see who was on point.

 

[jason10mm]

All that is is just saying things that may or may not be true. That's not transparency. But then again, most politicians do the exact same thing... Say things without hard evidence. There's no way to verify ANY of this stuff. Right now it's just "trust me bro".

Man, skepticism about stuff released by the government is at an ALL TIME HIGH. Who was asking for all these receipts during covid?


Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, it was "the other group" questioning everything and causing trouble that time

 

[jason10mm]

Man, it’ll be funny looking back at such threads in a year or two and see who was on point.

I hope my Chinese re-education camp gets good wi-fi

 

[Rentahamster]

Yes, it's article 2 - section 1 of the us constitution:

• "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America".
  
  
• Role of the President:
  The president, as the Chief Executive, is responsible for:
  • Enforcing laws passed by Congress.
    
    
  • Serving as Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.
    
    
  • Appointing key officials, including the Cabinet and heads of federal agencies.
• The Cabinet and Other Agencies:
  The President relies on a network of advisors and agencies to carry out the duties of the executive branch, according to the White House:.
  
  
  
• Checks and Balances:
  While the president holds significant power, the Constitution also establishes a system of checks and balances to prevent any single branch from becoming too powerful. For instance, Congress can impeach the president, and the judicial branch can review executive actions.

The president is the only representative who is elected nationwide. Anyone he appoints as shown completely lies within the executive and it's the only branch where the power in vested in a single office. Some but not all agencies however do require initial congressional approval, but they almost always (over 99%) go with the President's appointments.

I'm not sure if that's so cut and dry because there's also the appropriations clause in The Constitution of the United States, which gives Congress the "power of the purse", as it's often called. Generally speaking, Congress is the branch that has the most control over government spending, and while the executive branch does have some discretion in how that money is spent, the recent chainsaw cuts done by the executive branch feel out of line of what the balance of power should be. America has had a growing problem of power creep in the executive branch since the Clinton years, and this isn't helping.

 

[Punished Miku]

I'm not sure if that's so cut and dry because there's also the appropriations clause in The Constitution of the United States, which gives Congress the "power of the purse", as it's often called. Generally speaking, Congress is the branch that has the most control over government spending, and while the executive branch does have some discretion in how that money is spent, the recent chainsaw cuts done by the executive branch feel out of line of what the balance of power should be. America has had a growing problem of power creep in the executive branch since the Clinton years, and this isn't helping.

All DOGE should be doing is advising. It should be a boring department with accountants. They recommend cuts. Elected representatives in Congress take that under advisement if they want, and use that as a reference in their budget plans which get voted on by the House and Senate. That's it. They would have been arrested immediately if it was anyone else, or any other political party. They've compromised the most sensitive personal data of every American since 1899. They're cutting shit illegally, stopping payments illegally, accessing classified data illegally, bypassing HR to harass employees with those stupid emails illegally. Probably also harvesting all that data for his AI, massively illegally.

 

[adamsapple]

We're not shills, we're warriors

 

[DeafTourette]

All DOGE should be doing is advising. It should be a boring department with accountants. They recommend cuts. Elected representatives in Congress take that under advisement if they want, and use that as a reference in their budget plans which get voted on by the House and Senate. That's it. They would have been arrested immediately if it was anyone else, or any other political party. They've compromised the most sensitive personal data of every American since 1899. They're cutting shit illegally, stopping payments illegally, accessing classified data illegally, bypassing HR to harass employees with those stupid emails illegally. Probably also harvesting all that data for his AI, massively illegally.

True.

But we can't trust our lying eyes to the fustercluck DOGE and Co are perpetrating.

 

[UnrealEck]

If you find the DOGE website's credibility questionable, you can also refer back to the records held on the USA Spending website. For example this record held for 'ADVANCE DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION IN SERBIA’S WORKPLACES AND BUSINESS COMMUNITIES'.
There's plenty of stuff to go through.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Irrespective of what side of the fence you're on surely everyone can agree that a: Elon is a cunt and should be nowhere near government and b: The sheer shitshow that is happening daily is just diluting the prestige and respect that being the President of the US of fucking A comes with, i mean.. even you full on Magaheads have gotta agree that Heads of State should not be shilling cars like a fucking 2bit car dealer on the Whitehouse lawn of all things.. if you cant see the utter insanity of the President selling baseball caps, bibles and now fucking cars.. i don't know man.. this isn't the way global leaders should operate, they are meant to be above this shit

Admin just been completely destroying our reputation internationally the last several weeks and doing their best to tank our economy.

It’s all pretty wild and depressing. Legit talking about taking over Canada? Complete madness that this isn’t causing more uproar in the US.

 

[jason10mm]

All DOGE should be doing is advising. It should be a boring department with accountants. They recommend cuts. Elected representatives in Congress take that under advisement if they want, and use that as a reference in their budget plans which get voted on by the House and Senate. That's it. They would have been arrested immediately if it was anyone else, or any other political party. They've compromised the most sensitive personal data of every American since 1899. They're cutting shit illegally, stopping payments illegally, accessing classified data illegally, bypassing HR to harass employees with those stupid emails illegally. Probably also harvesting all that data for his AI, massively illegally.

According to Elon in his Rogan interview, that IS all DOGE is doing. They make recommendations, based on analysis from folks as security vetted as the people with access in those departments, and those departments have to follow up.

 

[Punished Miku]

According to Elon

Well that's worthless.

The guy is a pathological liar. If you don't want to believe a lefty, just read the NYT article summarizing the screaming match between Marco Rubio and Elon, or the head of the FAA talking about having to undo firings of air traffic controllers. Or the statements from fired Inspectors General around Social Security or how they handled that data, and who they allowed to have access to that data without clearance. Or the people that got fired that are literally overlooking our nuclear weapons. Or cutting off funding for things appropriated by Congress until courts blocked his ability to withhold the payments in multiple court cases. Or the wasted food that was already purchased for international aid just sitting at shipping ports rotting because they were illegally blocking the shipment. Like, he's literally a real pathological liar. It's been documented for over a decade with his statements surrounding Tesla, Twitter, Space X, Boring Company, Video Games, and DOGE.

Get a better source than the #1 Path of Exile player in the world., Adrian Dittman Elon Musk.

 

[DeafTourette]

According to Elon in his Rogan interview, that IS all DOGE is doing. They make recommendations, based on analysis from folks as security vetted as the people with access in those departments, and those departments have to follow up.

But that's not what's been said all this time. HE and Trump have been saying Elon has made the cuts. Not that he's been advising.

And where is the alleged head of DOGE? She's basically missing at this point.

 

[jason10mm]

Well that's worthless.

Well, he is LITERALLY Hitler, right? So why would he say he is doing less that what he is actually doing? Trump is King, Elon is his shadow master, and Putin is the Overlord. The courts are bout, congress is corrupt, Trump is now Dictoator for life, thats what you guys are saying, right? So why would Elon lie while preaching to his zealous acolytes?

Just saying, there is a very plausible chain of events for what DOGE is doing that doesn't mean they have absolute power

 

[Rentahamster]

All DOGE should be doing is advising. It should be a boring department with accountants. They recommend cuts. Elected representatives in Congress take that under advisement if they want, and use that as a reference in their budget plans which get voted on by the House and Senate. That's it. They would have been arrested immediately if it was anyone else, or any other political party. They've compromised the most sensitive personal data of every American since 1899. They're cutting shit illegally, stopping payments illegally, accessing classified data illegally, bypassing HR to harass employees with those stupid emails illegally. Probably also harvesting all that data for his AI, massively illegally.

A big issue is that while that's what they say they're doing, they also portray themselves as an organization that is making chainsaw level cuts right now that do have ramifications right now as seen by all the recent layoffs. They're talking from both sides of their mouths which make people suspicious of them scared, and people sympathetic to them complacent. This chaotic approach could be a product of incompetence, by design, or a little bit of both.

 

[Punished Miku]

Well, he is LITERALLY Hitler, right? So why would he say he is doing less that what he is actually doing? Trump is King, Elon is his shadow master, and Putin is the Overlord. The courts are bout, congress is corrupt, Trump is now Dictoator for life, thats what you guys are saying, right? So why would Elon lie while preaching to his zealous acolytes?

Just saying, there is a very plausible chain of events for what DOGE is doing that doesn't mean they have absolute power

I was trying to be straight with you. Believe what you want. You're being played though dude, nothing else I can say. I even led with telling you to just read what Trump's own cabinet is describing as happening, but you don't want to read it.

Just don't be surprised if people point out that you sound stupid when you parrot easily disproven lies from Elon.

 

[jason10mm]

But that's not what's been said all this time. HE and Trump have been saying Elon has made the cuts. Not that he's been advising.

And where is the alleged head of DOGE? She's basically missing at this point.

Maybe she doesn't want to get attacked like Tesla owners? Or shot at like Trump? When one side turns to naked violence, pretty smart to stay out of the limelight and let the billionaires take the heat.

There is no way appropriations can be terminated or folks can actually be fired in the manner ya'll are saying. Everyone works for someone and the "machine" of government HR roll reaaalllll slow. Most of this money they are "saving" uis stuff that was allocated, likely not actually 'spent' and would have been reclaimed at the end of the year when the books get balanced. But there is a lot of slop in there and a lot of programs that get funded, even if only on paper, and that ties up funds each fiscal year. Simple paper waste is likely most of what DOGE will tighten up, and doing that exposes where REAL fraud is occuring, then after that is the "Death of a thousand cuts" where millions of small wastages and inefficiencies add up to real money. Stuff like spending millions to 'research' camouflage patterns and then BILLIONS making stuff that doesn't work. WTF?

The U.S. Army's $5 Billion Camouflage Mistake - Survival World

For decades, camouflage has been an essential component of military strategy, blending soldiers into their surroundings and reducing visibility to enemies.

www.survivalworld.com

Excuse the source, but the gist is pretty accurate about the debacle of the UCP pattern and the dogshit uniform that used it.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The grift is over boys. Supposedly the Biden admin had a stupid contract deal to spend $50000 to water 8 plants. Elon gutted it and reco workers water it themselves.

How anyone could approve that contract goes to show how much dumb money is being spent.

For you anti gov poor guys who rely on scams for money you’re running out of luck. Hardworking people who pay lots of taxes always get ripped off.

 

[EviLore]

The chainsaw approach is troublesome because government isn’t a wasteland of useless people and departments. There is waste and reasonable cuts can be made, but there is also a lot of institutional knowledge and competent people who are working on tasks that are not necessarily glamorous in the eyes of a tech billionaire but are still very important. For example, cutting basic scientific research will have downstream effects on our competitiveness and progress, but it’s being lumped together with gender ideology related cuts by borderline-illiterate people.

 

[jason10mm]

I was trying to be straight with you. Believe what you want. You're being played though dude, nothing else I can say. I even led with telling you to just read what Trump's own cabinet is describing as happening, but you don't want to read it.

Just don't be surprised if people point out that you sound stupid when you parrot easily disproven lies from Elon.

We'll see. The courts will decide (or will they?????? duh duh duuuuuuuuuuuh!!!!)

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The chainsaw approach is troublesome because government isn’t a wasteland of useless people and departments. There is waste and reasonable cuts can be made, but there is also a lot of institutional knowledge and competent people who are working on tasks that are not necessarily glamorous in the eyes of a tech billionaire but are still very important. For example, cutting basic scientific research will have downstream effects on our competitiveness and progress, but it’s being lumped together with gender ideology related cuts by borderline-illiterate people.

Places like gov are so big it’s impossible to methodically analyze and pinpoint exact people to cut because there’s too many.

Also a lot of gov don’t even do annual performance evaluations so they can’t even just do the traditional boring method of fire the bottom performers rated in the shitty 1-star box first. Even the first office job after university, every employee gets the standard half year point and end of year performance meeting. I get a sense some reason gov departments don’t like doing them.

So they are going scorched earth. If they need to rehire, they admit a mistake and reoffer people a job back. Of course that doesn’t mean they will accept it. So you’ll have some good people leaving. But if they go to the private sector at least they now take part in industry (goods and service companies) than being a cost centre employee for gov.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

So they are going scorched earth. If they need to rehire, they admit a mistake and reoffer people a job back. Of course that doesn’t mean they will accept it. So you’ll have some good people leaving. But if they go to the private sector at least they now take part in industry (goods and service companies) than being a cost centre employee for gov.

They're going to ruin lives and lead people to their deaths. But what matters is they know when they made a mistake.

 

[Tams]

The chainsaw approach is troublesome because government isn’t a wasteland of useless people and departments. There is waste and reasonable cuts can be made, but there is also a lot of institutional knowledge and competent people who are working on tasks that are not necessarily glamorous in the eyes of a tech billionaire but are still very important. For example, cutting basic scientific research will have downstream effects on our competitiveness and progress, but it’s being lumped together with gender ideology related cuts by borderline-illiterate people.

Another problem is if the American civil service is anything like the British one.

A fair amount of institutional knowledge here in the UK is just institutionalism and more often than not extreme resistance to any change; 'We just don't do it that way, old chap'. This also allows civil servants to slack off, taking two days to do half an hour's work.

 

[thefool]

More good news for Tesla shareholders. They can finally afford eggs.

Egg prices plummet

The price of one dozen eggs rose to a high of more than $8 this month, but reports suggest costs are finally beginning to fall.

www.newsweek.com

 

[ManaByte]

More good news for Tesla shareholders. They can finally afford eggs.

Egg prices plummet

The price of one dozen eggs rose to a high of more than $8 this month, but reports suggest costs are finally beginning to fall.

www.newsweek.com

How dare they do that. They’re trying to kill egg farmers by lowering the prices.

 

[LegendOfKage]

It's about trans-genic mice, not transgender. Transgenic refers to the science of swapping genes for research purposes. Such as, mice with specific genes for testing purposes that make the findings more applicable to humans.

Trump just saw "Transgen", flipped, and defunded.

we all know that but it shows how easy a certain demographic are too wind up and distract

You know they just opened the budget spreadsheet and just searched for "Trans"

Man, skepticism about stuff released by the government is at an ALL TIME HIGH. Who was asking for all these receipts during covid?


Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, it was "the other group" questioning everything and causing trouble that time

Here's the nuance. Even CNN had to post a correction, which you can see for yourself in the first few minutes or so of this video. This guy has been working to uncover this sort of thing for a long time. He makes the argument that you're being lied to, and you shouldn't accept the transgenic / transgender argument, because that was never the issue, it's just a convenient narrative that is intentionally misrepresenting this research.

So yes, transgender animal experiments are happening, and the people behind the funding are trying to convince you otherwise and discredit the people who want to stop those experiments.

 

[LimanimaPT]

The White House has become a circus. The US president is selling cars? Musk using a Chainsaw to "cut jobs"?
Hahaha. What a shit show.
The USA have become the joke of the world.
People in charge behave like real clowns.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Sardaukarama]

Some A.i. Video Enthusiast plz make a Henry Ford/ Prez Roosevelt tv car advertisement.
I bet car CEO's are like; when is it my turn to sell my shit Don?

 

[Nonehxc]

I hope my Chinese re-education camp gets good wi-fi

Ooh, they'll Wi your Fi good.

They'll Wi your Fi reeal good.

Of that, you can be sure.

 

[EviLore]

 

[Punished Miku]

Doesn't look like fraud or abuse. Guess that's in the waste category.

Wonder if they can be sued for negligent homicide. Pretty sure congress approved this.

 

[RJMacready73]

In all honesty you are ethe guys I feel so sorry for, you are the ones that are having to live through this shit, that see it for what is, feel the embarrassment and the shock from the outsiders and what can you do other than wake up each morning, read the papers and hope it hasn't gotten any worse.. I do feel for you lad

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[RoboFu]

Ehh his x account is full of pro liberal bs. Who knows if what he says is real or not.

 

[EviLore]

Ehh his x account is full of pro liberal bs. Who knows if what he says is real or not.

What do you find to be "pro liberal bs" about Twitter censoring/deboosting tweets with links? Everyone has complained about that. It makes it harder to verify information, which seems to be the point.