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Toonami |MarApr17| Brought to you by Arby's and Old Spice

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Man God

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Crimson_Echidna said:
I think what "weakens" the block too is it's mostly composed of shows you can stream through Netflix, Hulu, or Crunchyroll. All of them have more or less been out for a couple of years as well.

Compare that to stuff from a couple of years ago like SAO, Kill la Kill, AGK, Parasyte which all debuted closer to their original air dates while they were still "fresh."
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This isn't right:

Samurai Jack: Worldwide Premiere.
DBZ Super: Dub Premiere
DBZ KAI Final Chapters: US Premiere (Wasn't streamed legally on anything I know in the US)
Jojo: TV/Streaming dub Premiere (DVD release, so it's also the HD premiere I guess!)
Tokyo Ghoul: Old!
HxH: Dub Premiere
Gundam Unicron: Dub premiere, though I don't know if the TV version was streamed anywhere legally. Daisuke? C-roll? I didn't pay attention to this one. I know the OVA got around.
Naruto Shippuden: Old!
GITS:SAC HD: Technically a WORLDWIDE PREMIERE!
 
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JadedWriter

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Zonic said:
General reaction on here for KLK to my understanding was that the first half was good to great, but then the 2nd half is when it starts to fall apart (after the school trip, for me), but overall was still a fun show to group watch.
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I liked the last couple of eps. I wanted to see more of big sister Satsuki.
 
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Hellwarden

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KLK starts strong and ends decently, but towards the middle the show just draaaaaaaaaaaags.

The middle of KLK is just this meandering mess of a show.
 
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Doctor Decimate

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I like the first quarter-to-half of Kill la Kill but I think after that point it becomes so messy and scattershot that I legitimately don't understand how people can defend it as a cohesive work.

There's a great 12 episode show in there somewhere
sort of like Gurren Lagann
 
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Zonic

Gives all the fucks
I think the most disliked part of KLK was around right around when Ryuko turned into Shadow the Hedgehog, but then starts to pick up near the end when she stops acting like an edgy teen & returns back to normal.
 
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BBboy20

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Moaradin said:
Gonna be hard for anything to top Nier Automata for me this year, and that's pretty crazy in a year with a new Persona and Zelda.
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Zelda and Red Dead will probably be battling for GOTY by most media.

Crimson_Echidna said:
That's what I like about all the JoJo openings. Once you know the context of the story you start to realize just how much the openings foreshadow.
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Moaradin

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The first JoJo opening is less foreshadowing and more blatantly showing the entire story lol. The second one is a bit less heavy-handed about it, but you could still figure out some things without context.

They get a lot better with the foreshadowing and little references in the openings for the future seasons.
 
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Seda

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Kill la Kill's reception here was decent. I think it was more 'fun' than 'good' which to some people is all that matters but to some may not be enough.

I know that's vague so don't read into that so much.

Doctor Decimate said:
I like the first quarter-to-half of Kill la Kill but I think after that point it becomes so messy and scattershot that I legitimately don't understand how people can defend it as a cohesive work.

There's a great 12 episode show in there somewhere
sort of like Gurren Lagann
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I think I started losing interest with the 'tournament' thing where Ryuko has to go through the Elite Four in order to get to Satsuki, so like 4-5 episodes in? That just felt too structurally boring to me.
 
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Man God

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The real joy of KlK on TOONAMI is the fantastic dub.

I petered out of watching the series around episode 13/14 when it premiered. It had its moments but nothing really got me coming back as it entered act two.

That dub though, might be the best put together one ever.
 
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ckohler

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Regiruler said:
It's a technique that causes a tremendously large explosion. I don't know why that part is hard to understand.
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It was confusing because "jutsu techniques" typically involve a bunch of hand motions and then something magic happens. I've been led to believe that jutsu can be taught like any other kind of skill. But that filler girl had a physical object in her back. Like, it was surgically inserted into her or something. If she was the keeper of the forbidden jutsu, I'd expect it to just be some skill she was taught that only she knows... not some kind of bomb inside her she can't remove or control.
 
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Grexeno

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Man God said:
The real joy of KlK on TOONAMI is the fantastic dub.

I petered out of watching the series around episode 13/14 when it premiered. It had its moments but nothing really got me coming back as it entered act two.

That dub though, might be the best put together one ever.
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Aniplex does fantastic dub work. And it better be, because you'll certainly pay enough for it to own it physically.
 
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Zonic

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Grexeno said:
Aniplex does fantastic dub work. And it better be, because you'll certainly pay enough for it to own it physically.
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Pretty much my opinion on Aniplex: They're expensive as hell, but the money is probably used towards making better-than-average dubs.

Kill la Kill is one of those rare anime where I watch it subbed first, but then prefer dub after seeing it, as I usually tend to go for what I hear first. Usually, I'll be in the middle of "both are good, I don't have a preference" if I hear both nowadays.

Has Aniplex even made a "bad" dub? I know my friend tends to say SAO has "one of the worst dubs" he's ever heard (but he also saw SAO subbed & tends to go for sub), but that honestly is probably one of the only positives SAO has going for it & Blue Exorcist was rather good as well.

Oh, & Gurren Lagann has a great one as well, save for my very minor nitpick of changing "Giga Drill Breaker" to "Giga Drill Break".
 
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ckohler

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Man God said:
They do indeed but this is a step ahead of SAO/SAO II and Blue Exorcist, two other Aniplex shows that aired.
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Also Gurren Lagann had a great dub. Overall, I think Aniplex picks great shows, gives them great dubs, sells great box sets and then OUTRAGEOUSLY overprices them.
 
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Man God

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The real thing anime nerds love about Aniplex is that their Blu-Rays have fantastic transfers compared to Viz and especially Funimation and Sentai.

You literally get what you pay for.
 
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Crocodile

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KLK was rewritten halfway through and it shows. Plot points brought up in the first half are dropped and new ones come out of seemingly nowhere and some characters, especially Ryoko, have uneven development. Fanservice aside, though its totally fair if people can't put that aside as the show went a bit far in a few places, KLK is a show with squandered potential rather than outright bad.
 
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Zonic

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Man God said:
The real thing anime nerds love about Aniplex is that their Blu-Rays have fantastic transfers compared to Viz and especially Funimation and Sentai.

You literally get what you pay for.
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That, & I'm pretty sure they're the exact same BDs that Japan gets, which is why they have the high prices, to ensure Japanese fans don't import US versions for cheaper.

It's just more annoying when sometimes, you can't get a series without a bunch of extra stuff, like how they originally released Gurren Lagann for like $500+ & it was the ONLY way to get it.
 
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Man God

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KlK is a show I prefer to TTGL, which is another show of squandered opportunity that still managed to be pretty good in the end.
 
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cntr

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Crimson_Echidna said:
That's what I like about all the JoJo openings. Once you know the context of the story you start to realize just how much the openings foreshadow.
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The first two openings are too blatant about it, but the rest are great. People mentioned guessing Caesar's death from the second opening, though I don't think many Toonami viewers figured it out because of the cut.

Hellwarden said:
Will we even remember Sand Whale by the end of the year?
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I'm definitely going to make more Green Peace jokes.

JadedWriter said:
Wait I thought everybody on here hated Kill La Kill or is the KLK hate just overblown on GAF?
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Kill la Kill is a messy show, but it's fun. Makes sense, since it seems like they changed the plot half-way through.

Shard said:
We are also the same place that is mixed towards the neagtive towards crowd favorite My Hero Academia, Anime GAF does tend to the misanthropic.
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The anime general OT feels like one of the most cynical and hipster threads in all of GAF, and that's saying something.

ckohler said:
It was confusing because "jutsu techniques" typically involve a bunch of hand motions and then something magic happens. I've been led to believe that jutsu can be taught like any other kind of skill. But that filler girl had a physical object in her back. Like, it was surgically inserted into her or something. If she was the keeper of the forbidden jutsu, I'd expect it to just be some skill she was taught that only she knows... not some kind of bomb inside her she can't remove or control.
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"Jutsu" is just a generic word that means "technique", so I guess it become the Naruto term for any kind of ability or power.

Also, I hear the dub version of Naruto calls things "jutsu" even if the Japanese version doesn't, so that might be a thing here.
 
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Doctor Decimate

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Seda said:
I think I started losing interest with the 'tournament' thing where Ryuko has to go through the Elite Four in order to get to Satsuki, so like 4-5 episodes in? That just felt too structurally boring to me.
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I felt that a little bit as well but I thought the show was at least felt unique enough to carry itself through most of the tournament and only after that did it pretty much fall on its face.
 
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Zonic

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omg, Gurren Lagann BDs are still freakin' $50 for FIVE OR SIX EPISODES. That is literally almost $10 per episode.

So you need to pay $250, plus tax, to own all 27 episodes along with 5 sets of 16-page booklets & double-sided posters.

But this is the same company who wants to make you pay $40 for a 20-minute Persona 5 anime, so I don't know why I'm surprised at this rate.

Watch as they make you pay $700 for a BD LE of FMA Brotherhood.
 
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cntr

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I wonder if that stupid pricing is an anime thing or if every disc release in Japan is priced like that

Zonic said:
Watch as they make you pay $700 for a BD LE of FMA Brotherhood.
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you joke, but the G Gundam HD blu-rays cost nearly that much.
 
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Zonic

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cntr said:
I wonder if that stupid pricing is an anime thing or if every disc release in Japan is priced like that
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I'd actually like to know this as well. I wonder if they ever do "seasons" on Blu-Ray like here in the US. I've never heard of an anime getting a "complete season" or "complete series" release in Japan, so I wonder if the same applies for live-action stuff as well.
 
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Man God

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cntr said:
I wonder if that stupid pricing is an anime thing or if every disc release in Japan is priced like that


you joke, but the G Gundam HD blu-rays cost nearly that much.
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WORTH EVERY PENNY

I would need a second job to buy them! I love the show but c'mon, I can wait!
 
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Crimson_Echidna

Banned
Man God said:
This isn't right:

Samurai Jack: Worldwide Premiere.
DBZ Super: Dub Premiere
DBZ KAI Final Chapters: US Premiere (Wasn't streamed legally on anything I know in the US)
Jojo: TV/Streaming dub Premiere (DVD release, so it's also the HD premiere I guess!)
Tokyo Ghoul: Old!
HxH: Dub Premiere
Gundam Unicron: Dub premiere, though I don't know if the TV version was streamed anywhere legally. Daisuke? C-roll? I didn't pay attention to this one. I know the OVA got around.
Naruto Shippuden: Old!
GITS:SAC HD: Technically a WORLDWIDE PREMIERE!
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The original OVA of Unicorn has been out for a while and HxH came out in 2011. Even with the Dub Premier it's still an "older" series. :p

Zonic said:
Pretty much my opinion on Aniplex: They're expensive as hell, but the money is probably used towards making better-than-average dubs.

Kill la Kill is one of those rare anime where I watch it subbed first, but then prefer dub after seeing it, as I usually tend to go for what I hear first. Usually, I'll be in the middle of "both are good, I don't have a preference" if I hear both nowadays.

Has Aniplex even made a "bad" dub? I know my friend tends to say SAO has "one of the worst dubs" he's ever heard (but he also saw SAO subbed & tends to go for sub), but that honestly is probably one of the only positives SAO has going for it & Blue Exorcist was rather good as well.

Oh, & Gurren Lagann has a great one as well, save for my very minor nitpick of changing "Giga Drill Breaker" to "Giga Drill Break".
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SAO and Blue Exorcist got "bad reps" specifically because a lot of people got hangups over Bryce Papenbrook.
 
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Man God

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Right but SAO was about a year old when it premiered. Same with KlK. Blue Exorcist was at least that old.

The OVA is not Gundam Unicron RE:0096 . They're not the same release.

The newest shows to air on TOONAMI are JACK, Sand Whale and Me, Dimension W, and soon to be AOT 2.
 
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Hellwarden

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I decided to stop watching the sub so I could watch fresh with everyone too.

A thought occurred to me. I hope there's not any pixelation censorship like there briefly was in the first season. (When Eren punched Annie so hard his arm broke. Happened in the second to final episode if I remember right.) If there is, people might be wondering why Toonami is censoring AOT.
 
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