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UK's so-called "grooming gangs" get international attention

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Jess Phillips and her colleagues keep on going on about how she is in serious danger now.

Now, maybe there is a nutcase out there who because of her actions does want to harm her. Two MPs have been murdered in recent times.

But I have seen no sign of that. Many want her to lose her job, but that is hardly threatening harm. Personally, I think being Jess Phillips is punishment enough.
Maybe this is as deep as Epstein lists and big names would want people silenced. The way it's been so institutionalized from parliaments to media to the police, I would bet the farm on that being the actual "endangered" truth.
 

Tams

Member
Maybe this is as deep as Epstein lists and big names would want people silenced. The way it's been so institutionalized from parliaments to media to the police, I would bet the farm on that being the actual "endangered" truth.

Well, with a majority of 700, held up by Pakistani Muslims, yeah, her career is certainly endangered.
 
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GloveSlap

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Not to make light of the situation, but I just watched National Lampoon's European Vacation and it made me think of this. There is a running joke where no matter what you do to a Brit, their need to be polite overrides all sense of reason and self-preservation.
 
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Oner

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I think the UK is great, full of good and decent people, with a rich history and a close, long lived partnership with the US. It’s the cradle of the modern West. So this whole affair is just revolting to an unprecedented degree and highlights how vulnerable the West is to a particular set of bad ideas.

This is not a dig at you EviLore just honest questions.

And where did those ideas come from? Why were they allowed to propagate unchecked continually? There are consequences to certain ideologies (more than 1 so not targeting any one specifically). And this example is beyond egregious...hope it forces certain leanings to reflect upon their "feels" and wake the F up. It is dangerous to continue any more excuses and put a blind eye towards what people "think" is "noble" because of ideological leanings and strict conformity without question. Objectivity, Critical thinking & Respect goes a long way in addressing thought processes. I can't imagine the contempt I would have if I heard someone making excuses in a face to face convo. Madness.
 

Trilobit

Member
Especially when you consider having to coexist with these things..
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To their defense despite being hairy and very creepy looking and being quite aggressive the white Australians are actually decent people.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
This is not a dig at you EviLore just honest questions.

And where did those ideas come from? Why were they allowed to propagate unchecked continually? There are consequences to certain ideologies (more than 1 so not targeting any one specifically). And this example is beyond egregious...hope it forces certain leanings to reflect upon their "feels" and wake the F up. It is dangerous to continue any more excuses and put a blind eye towards what people "think" is "noble" because of ideological leanings and strict conformity without question. Objectivity, Critical thinking & Respect goes a long way in addressing thought processes. I can't imagine the contempt I would have if I heard someone making excuses in a face to face convo. Madness.
Its the Christian value of being kind, supporting the meek, the downtrodden, the poor being weaponized against itself. The West" (aka white european derived culture) has been SO dominate, SO productive, SO culturally inventive, SO marketable, they just swept the planet and there was a big sense of "We have so much and they have so little" which is a patronizing attitude but also the sequela of CENTURIES of exploitation, colonialization, and racist policies that used to just to be "civilization 101" but in recent times were reframed as "white guilt". The notion that EVERY CULTURE will exploit any other IF it can was lost and it became "white europeans were malignantly evil and the same shit done by anyone else was just natural and they's grow out of it". Sure, there were a few isolationist societies out there but almost all are expansionist as all get out, limited only by their neighbors ability to resist or their own fatigue and eventual internal collapse. Islam is a rabidly expansionist culture, rightly so since there was a time when they ruled vast swaths of the continents available to them. Christianity is expansionist as well, but WW1 and WW2 just exhausted europe and 'colonialism' collapsed across the planet. It will take a few hundred years to really get the proper perspective of whether this was a "good thing" and really, the POV of the people writing the books in that future era will undoubtedly think it WAS a good idea since they are likely to be the fruit of islamist or chinese societies if european/"the west" goes into decline due to not preserving themselves.

Quite frankly I think that as soon as America stops playing World Police we are gonna see a massive boil over of alllllllll the regional, cultural, ethnic, and religious conflicts that were largely suppressed by the US/USSR, now US, and soon to be US/China and maybe eventually just China, superpowers. If nukes weren't at play, as well as the global addiction to battery minerals/superconductors coming from just a few places then I'd say we pull back now and let the world sort itself. But alas our economy can't survive 100% internally and enough crazies with nukes are out there I'd rather not see important areas of the globe turned to glass.
 

FunkMiller

Member
Quite frankly I think that as soon as America stops playing World Police we are gonna see a massive boil over of alllllllll the regional, cultural, ethnic, and religious conflicts that were largely suppressed by the US/USSR, now US, and soon to be US/China and maybe eventually just China, superpowers. If nukes weren't at play, as well as the global addiction to battery minerals/superconductors coming from just a few places then I'd say we pull back now and let the world sort itself. But alas our economy can't survive 100% internally and enough crazies with nukes are out there I'd rather not see important areas of the globe turned to glass.

America has MASSIVELY benefitted from its position on the world's stage in the post war era. A position it pushed for. You don't get to have all of that, and then not also take on the responsibility that goes with it. And you're quite right - the US economy cannot survive a protectionist philosophy.
 
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Tams

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America has MASSIVELY benefitted from its position on the world's stage in the post war era. A position it pushed for. You don't get to have all of that, and then not also take on the responsibility that goes with it.

While a loaded phrase, that isn't really the point they were trying to make.

There are a lot of places around the world where they are only really kept in check because they're scared Uncle Sam will come in balls deep if they try to expand. It used to be other empires, notably the British and French. And so on back in the annuls of history.
 

Liljagare

Member
Interesting takes.

How is this not a political thread though? Can someone explain it to me as a st00pid 'peon.

So, we allow political threads again, or something? Or, not? Are just shadow discussions allowed?

Would it be OK to take up the Ukraine thread again?
 

FunkMiller

Member
Interesting takes.

How is this not a political thread though? Can someone explain it to me as a st00pid 'peon.

So, we allow political threads again, or something? Or, not? Are just shadow discussions allowed?

Would it be OK to take up the Ukraine thread again?

I'd like to see this restored. If we can talk about girls being raped in the UK by Pakistanis, then surely we can talk about them being raped in Ukraine by Russians.
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Interesting takes.

How is this not a political thread though? Can someone explain it to me as a st00pid 'peon.

So, we allow political threads again, or something? Or, not? Are just shadow discussions allowed?

Would it be OK to take up the Ukraine thread again?
I’ll bite. Ukraine has been a well known sex trade capital hub in the world. Down to having several documentaries and movements about it.

They too should be investigated.
 

FunkMiller

Member
I’ll bite. Ukraine has been a well known sex trade capital hub in the world. Down to having several documentaries and movements about it.

They too should be investigated.

Lots of sex slavery and trafficking going on in America too.

The worst thing about this thread has frankly been the yanks all piling on to say how awful the UK must be, when your own country has been the site of abhorrent shit. Same goes for the Europeans doing the same thing.

This thread shouldn't be political, nor should it be an excuse to dogpile on one country, when this kind of thing is happening everywhere in indulgent western countries. None of this gets solved by westerners continuing to divide themselves from one another. Which is why the current attitudes coming out of the US towards it allies are so fucking damaging to western cohesion - which includes fighting the slow creep of these backwards religious values into our societies.
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
Interesting takes.

How is this not a political thread though? Can someone explain it to me as a st00pid 'peon.

So, we allow political threads again, or something? Or, not? Are just shadow discussions allowed?

Would it be OK to take up the Ukraine thread again?
Cause it's British politics, a subject so confusing not even the brits can figure it out :p
 

mitch1971

Member
Interesting takes.

How is this not a political thread though? Can someone explain it to me as a st00pid 'peon.

So, we allow political threads again, or something? Or, not? Are just shadow discussions allowed?

Would it be OK to take up the Ukraine thread again?
I would assume regardless of political leanings, people would agree together it's a horrible event.
 

nikolino840

Member
Wasn't it changed to 16 two years ago or so?
Maybe the law is approved i dont know...but on twitter there was some pissed off writing that is fault of western country (like changing the school swimsuits for kids at school) and I saw those twitts bc are the same poeple screaming against woke in videogames...
 

Dirk Benedict

Gold Member
Maybe this is as deep as Epstein lists and big names would want people silenced. The way it's been so institutionalized from parliaments to media to the police, I would bet the farm on that being the actual "endangered" truth.
It's fucking disgusting how they are just hand waving this like it's nothing, in the UK. Starmer is Evil.
Threatening American Citizens for speaking their minds, threatening his own people and calling them right wing extremists is extreme in itself. The Citizens of the UK need to stand up for themselves and oust that son of a bitch.
 

Mohonky

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I'd like to see this restored. If we can talk about girls being raped in the UK by Pakistanis, then surely we can talk about them being raped in Ukraine by Russians.
I'd also like to talk about how after helping the Taliban, Pakistan and Taliban led Afghanistan are basically going full blown war with one another right now lol
 

Toots

Gold Member
It's fucking disgusting how they are just hand waving this like it's nothing, in the UK. Starmer is Evil.
Threatening American Citizens for speaking their minds, threatening his own people and calling them right wing extremists is extreme in itself. The Citizens of the UK need to stand up for themselves and oust that son of a bitch.
I was under the impression that UK had a huge tradition of famous wealthy and powerful pedos, like Jimmy Saville, Gary Glitter, the weird sweaty prince, etc. Guys that went from diner with the queen to epstein island in one evening. Is it possible that all this handwaving comes from there in part ?
I don't think it's only woke ideology.

How did UK went from good ole BBC royalty golden robe wearing pedos to dirty pakistanis grooming gang is the real question.
I know I'd rather get molested by the Erlkönig than a weird hairy 7/11 owner and his 36 cousins.
 
Lots of sex slavery and trafficking going on in America too.

The worst thing about this thread has frankly been the yanks all piling on to say how awful the UK must be, when your own country has been the site of abhorrent shit. Same goes for the Europeans doing the same thing.

This thread shouldn't be political, nor should it be an excuse to dogpile on one country, when this kind of thing is happening everywhere in indulgent western countries. None of this gets solved by westerners continuing to divide themselves from one another. Which is why the current attitudes coming out of the US towards it allies are so fucking damaging to western cohesion - which includes fighting the slow creep of these backwards religious values into our societies.
Bro we live in a country that is locking up thousands for Facebook posts. Take your head out of your arse.
UK politicians would rather turn a blind eye to the shit Muslims do to keep chasing their votes.
Show me one democratic country that the government, the police, care workers and locals councils all allowed mass rapes of children for 20 years because they didn't want to be called racist.
 

Chittagong

Gold Member
This is really blowing up. For those not in the VC circles, Michael Jackson was probably the top VC account on LinkedIn. He posted some pretty harsh comments on this cover up, and he didn’t just get warned or banned, but had his entire account nuked from LinkedIn.

Mike Butcher from TechCrunch reports:
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
This is really blowing up. For those not in the VC circles, Michael Jackson was probably the top VC account on LinkedIn. He posted some pretty harsh comments on this cover up, and he didn’t just get warned or banned, but had his entire account nuked from LinkedIn.

Mike Butcher from TechCrunch reports:
Tom Holland
Michael Jackson

I've been having to literally click the links to confirm it's just blokes with the same names as celebrities.

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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
UK probably can’t go after a lot of these groups.

If they do they’ll look like they are racially targeting groups of people. And that’s looks bad in terms of PR and votes.

So even if it’s justifiable arrests it doesn’t really matter because all people see on TV and articles are swaths of people mostly from the same background in which people point fingers and say that’s targeted.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Its been inevitable since 1776 confirmed in 1783, its just been a long holdout.....come join us as the 51st state. ( once we get the whole sex offender crime is an instant deport ironed out)
No way!

If that happened all the scummy people from Detroit and Buffalo would come over to the GTA. Lol. Then again maybe they wouldn’t since a half decent house will cost you at least $1M. They wouldn’t even have the money anyway.

And then we would all have to get used to using Imperial measurements and milk comes in gigantic gallon jugs! :)
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
UK probably can’t go after a lot of these groups.

If they do they’ll look like they are racially targeting groups of people. And that’s looks bad in terms of PR and votes.

So even if it’s justifiable arrests it doesn’t really matter because all people see on TV and articles are swaths of people mostly from the same background in which people point fingers and say that’s targeted.
Great emotional blackmail scheme they have going on in a soft cold war colonization/invasion.

At the expense of vulnerable women and children. In the hundreds of thousands.
 
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Hookshot

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UK probably can’t go after a lot of these groups.

If they do they’ll look like they are racially targeting groups of people. And that’s looks bad in terms of PR and votes.

So even if it’s justifiable arrests it doesn’t really matter because all people see on TV and articles are swaths of people mostly from the same background in which people point fingers and say that’s targeted.
That's why there is so much youth knife crime.

Kids used to fight, then some black kids started carrying knives, the police would perform "stop and search" on them but because it was always black kids being targeted it was deemed racist so the police stopped doing it, this allowed black kids to carry knives freely, that meant more and more of them had to carry knives for defense which lead to white and Asian kids carrying knives and now everyone is "tooled up".

And the police have long since given up on patrolling beats or even driving around neighborhoods as a presence to deter crime.
 

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Resident Cheap Arse
So, MP's voted down another enquiry. Very much Labour pushing to stop any further investigation.

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And Sammy Woodhouse, one of the victims and a leading campaigner says that the police have been in contact to "ask" her to delete her posts and stop commenting on the matter

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(Capped in case she does have to pull her stuff down)



Fucking hell. Quite the corrupt mess we have here.
 
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Neff

Member
Maybe this is as deep as Epstein lists and big names would want people silenced.

The main reason Labour are resisting being open about this is that it has the potential to unravel the Labour party, permanently. Firstly, mass immigration was started by them, and 25 years later it's clear that it's simply not working- socially or economically. In fact in many ways it's been a disaster. Secondly, muslims primarily vote Labour. If they turn on muslims, that puts a massive dent in their electorate.

Labour wouldn't survive a swamp-draining investigation on this topic and they know it. They're desperately hoping that this will somehow blow over., so we can all go back to 'normal', but I think we're long past that point now.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
That's why there is so much youth knife crime.

Kids used to fight, then some black kids started carrying knives, the police would perform "stop and search" on them but because it was always black kids being targeted it was deemed racist so the police stopped doing it, this allowed black kids to carry knives freely, that meant more and more of them had to carry knives for defense which lead to white and Asian kids carrying knives and now everyone is "tooled up".

And the police have long since given up on patrolling beats or even driving around neighborhoods as a presence to deter crime.
Makes sense it it escalated to that.

But as I’ve always said on gaf related to volatile situations, it’s always important for gov to control it instead of letting shit fester into one unruly mob. When that happens good luck trying to solve it. It gets to a point of no gov wants to fix it, the only recourse is to wait it out and pray the people tone down themselves fixing it themselves.

And sometimes that will happen. There were shit loads of Floyd riots way back. They naturally disappeared. But for something like your knife on knife crime I don’t get a sense something like that will have kids all suddenly reduce carrying weapons on their own.

Back in the 80s and 90s I used to get in tons of fights where they stopped for me in grade 11. Last fight I had. As you said it was dumb recess or locker room fights. Or off property in a park. No weapons at all. And the funny thing about fist fights is that a week later you’re back to being buddies in gym class playing on the same team so nobody cares. But if weapons are involved slashing that’s forever enemies.
 
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