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[Banjo64]

The most disgusting scandal in modern Western history.

The fact that successive UK governments, the media, public sector (including the home office, police and social services) and justice system have all worked as one to suppress and obfuscate the truth whilst slandering and cancelling anyone who tried to investigate or report on this factually is a dystopian Orwellian nightmare.

It’s also a terrifying warning shot to anyone in a first world country who thinks they are safe from becoming a similar banana republic in a matter of 2 decades.

 

[GymWolf]

If this was happening in the US there would probably be so many vigilante gun toting dads taking matters into their own hands that politicians would immediately course correct.

Apparently most of these girls don't have parents or stable families, probably the only reason why all of this can happen.

 

[Tams]

Apparently most of these girls don't have parents or stable families, probably the only reason why all of this can happen.

Other than the horrors inflicted upon them by the rapists, this is the next worse thing.

The girls were abandoned and written off by society because they were 'just those sort of girls'. It's a very common sentiment in the UK unfortunately.

 

[SminkyPinky]

The problem with multiculturalism is that it requires cultures to mix and some cultures do not look other cultures. I'll let the reader decide what culture is the problematic one but I doubt its the culture that constantly goes on about multiculturalism.

I'm happy for everybody to do, believe, love, worship, trib, rim etc. whoever or whatever they want as long as it doesn't impinge on anybody else's life, notably mine. It's quite simple really.

Damn you neogaf...you made me break my rule of posting anything on the internet, encouraged as I was, with all your logic and reasoning!

 

[Mistake]

The most disgusting scandal in modern Western history.

The fact that successive UK governments, the media, public sector (including the home office, police and social services) and justice system have all worked as one to suppress and obfuscate the truth whilst slandering and cancelling anyone who tried to investigate or report on this factually is a dystopian Orwellian nightmare.

It’s also a terrifying warning shot to anyone in a first world country who thinks they are safe from becoming a similar banana republic in a matter of 2 decades.

People like to think humanity is beyond a lot of things now, but WW2 was less than 100 years ago. I'll keep my guns, thanks. Hell, look at the LA fires. Complete lawlessness there now

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

I am in Birmingham today for the first time. Which is known for it's diversit.

5mins after leaving the station I was greeted to a car parked in the city centre with a loudspeaker blasting out an Islamic prayer at 10AM.

You wouldn't know you're in England.

 

[Hookshot]

I am in Birmingham today for the first time. Which is known for it's diversit.

5mins after leaving the station I was greeted to a car parked in the city centre with a loudspeaker blasting out an Islamic prayer at 10AM.

You wouldn't know you're in England.

Last time I was in Birmingham half the bus station was covered in police tape.

 

[near]

I've travelled throughout England, I've been to almost every major city at this point and Birmingham is one of the worst places I've visited. Dogshit, avoid at all costs.

 

[winjer]

The problem with multiculturalism is that it requires cultures to mix and some cultures do not look other cultures. I'll let the reader decide what culture is the problematic one but I doubt its the culture that constantly goes on about multiculturalism.

I'm happy for everybody to do, believe, love, worship, trib, rim etc. whoever or whatever they want as long as it doesn't impinge on anybody else's life, notably mine. It's quite simple really.

Damn you neogaf...you made me break my rule of posting anything on the internet, encouraged as I was, with all your logic and reasoning!

But that is the problem with Islamists. They do not want to integrate and mix with other cultures. They demand every other culture to submit to theirs.

 

[anaslexy]

Here is an interesting article by Sky News based on facts. I know everyone is upset and they have the right to be the article sheds an interesting light.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

See, we DID have that kinda thing here and it turned into this...


so STOPPING a racially motivated vigilante group IS a good thing, but it will require competent policing even when it's 'uncomfortable', making some hard decisions about immigration of culturally opposed groups, and then allowing them to coalesce into their own areas and take over. Basically preventing the need for a KKK like group in the first place by serving the citizens you have, not bringing in trouble and then letting it fester.

It's never a good thing, but it's the logical consequence when authorities fail to protect the country. It's already happening in Sweden, where criminality has skyrocketed. Asking people to stay quiet at home isn't the answer.

In a security crisis, when the police goes against their own people, what's the alternative?

Swedish police call for ban on civilians wearing bulletproof vests

Growing numbers buying protective gear as gangs recruit young people amid surge in violence across country

www.theguardian.com

 

[MrA]

Here is an interesting article by Sky News based on facts. I know everyone is upset and they have the right to be the article sheds an interesting light.

That relies on data from the very people involved in covering up the problem,
The hydrant programme is run by the national police chiefs council, not exactly a source I'd trust.

 

[nkarafo]

Interesting takes.

How is this not a political thread though? Can someone explain it to me as a st00pid 'peon.

Underage little girls being raped is not "political discussion". It's not a "sensitive topic" or "offensive" either.

Everyone needs to know about this. It needs to be shoved in peoples throats and discussed everywhere.

There is nothing "off topic" about this, every other topic needs to stop, every other matter needs to wait so this one can be tacked ASAP.

If the first thing that comes to your mind when you see this is find a way to silence or ignore it, then GTFO and get your priorities straight.

 

[RoboFu]

But that is the problem with Islamists. They do not want to integrate and mix with other cultures. They demand every other culture to submit to theirs.

And they have lots of money at top level to influence countries and policy in their favor.

 

[winjer]

And they have lots of money at top level to influence countries and policy in their favor.

And European politicians are too corrupt and greedy to care about the people they represent.

 

[Tams]

The problem with multiculturalism is that it requires cultures to mix and some cultures do not look other cultures. I'll let the reader decide what culture is the problematic one but I doubt its the culture that constantly goes on about multiculturalism.

I'm happy for everybody to do, believe, love, worship, trib, rim etc. whoever or whatever they want as long as it doesn't impinge on anybody else's life, notably mine. It's quite simple really.

Damn you neogaf...you made me break my rule of posting anything on the internet, encouraged as I was, with all your logic and reasoning!

In the UK, multiculturalism is pretty much a national cult, buried deep into the civil service. We even had a coun minted that said, 'Diversity Built Britain'.

I've generally just sort of accepted that it's a good thing, but not cared much. Recently though, I've been contemplating multiculturalism a lot recently because of the horrific crimes that have happened.

I've come to the conclusion that multiculturalism is fundamentally flawed, and that this is also now backed up by emperical evidence. Not only that, but that those who support multiculturalism do damage to diversity.

I don't remember who I got this from, but an analogy of paints makes sense to me.

• If you have a rainbow of different paints in separate cups, they you have a diverse range of colours.
• If you add a small bit of one or two to another, you often end up with an interesting variation of the base colour, but it is still the base colour.
• If you a lot of one to another, you drastically change the other, effectively removing that colour from the selection, turning it into a variation of the added colour.
• If you add all the colours into one cup, you end up with just black.

So really, you can't have a multicultural society. Either one culture will dominate or it'll all homogeise into one very different culture.

The US is not an exception, as they simply had (and still have) such a large population to help prevent their culture being destroyed.

Singapore doesn't count either, as they keep their society divided ethnically and enforce it in an authoritarian manner.

 

[ÆMNE22A!C]

Ffs stop thinking surface level my guys

 

[EviLore]

 

[ÆMNE22A!C]

Typical IE same old

 

[Tams]

Another 'gem':



Their parents weren't asked either.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

These people really are on a different plane of existence.

I must admit, I really have started to wonder if evil has just taken over complete at this point

I was in no way religious five years ago, these days, I don't know, but there seems to be signs of some form of evil at play..

What else there?

You can't have some of the worst crimes against humanity, not just in the UK either, brushed under the carpet..

When you think of it, this is one of the worst crimes imaginable in a supposed 'modern' 1st world society, yet, I dont see riots over it? People are defending it..

What even is this?

It's getting to a point in the UK where we are beyond saving. I've literally just seen a thread on my local towns Facebook page. A bloke said unchecked illegal migration is a bad thing (My home town is screwed because of it)

Every reply? He's a Racist..

My wife, half hour a go sent me a video from Bath town centre, she couldn't get through the middle of town as there's a solid wall of protesters shouting 'From the river to the sea', banners, plaques, the lot..

This is a clown country

We're fucked.

I hate it.

 

[No BBC=Anger]

But that is the problem with Islamists. They do not want to integrate and mix with other cultures. They demand every other culture to submit to theirs.

The hilarious thing is, for all their posturing when it really comes down to it, they can't fight worth a damn against the West, even their football teams are awful.

 

[Tajaz2426]

This wasn’t a secret, it has been going on since the 1990’s. The folks of Britain own this, as they set by and did nothing to help those children. They let the government use racism as a reason to let grown men rape little girls, hog tie them, put balls in their mouths while groups of grown men raped them, you sick fucks.

I won’t go into Islam and the shit I seen in Afghanistan and Iraq and how unforgiving and immoral they are with women and children. We hunted a few down for the Iraqi government as they would come to remote villages and behead the men, cut the breast off of women and leave the child to starve alive till death, then taken little girls 5-10 years old and using them or sexual purposes.

Don’t forgive them and don’t forgive the folks in Britain that stood by and chose to remain silent for fear of being a damn racist. You let your own children get picked off.

End rant. I hope they have a natiaonal inquiry and the government officials and police are held responsible and and put to death.

You don’t fuck with children who cannot defend themselves.

 

[Embearded]

But that is the problem with Islamists. They do not want to integrate and mix with other cultures. They demand every other culture to submit to theirs.

Christopher Hitchens has been trying to warm the entire world for a long time. Unfortunately he passed away something like 12 years ago.

 

[delirium trigger]

Europe has been fought over since the dawn of man all for it to be given away by a group of idiots.

 

[DeepEnigma]

These people really are on a different plane of existence.

I must admit, I really have started to wonder if evil has just taken over complete at this point

I was in no way religious five years ago, these days, I don't know, but there seems to be signs of some form of evil at play..

What else there?

You can't have some of the worst crimes against humanity, not just in the UK either, brushed under the carpet..

When you think of it, this is one of the worst crimes imaginable in a supposed 'modern' 1st world society, yet, I dont see riots over it? People are defending it..

What even is this?

It's getting to a point in the UK where we are beyond saving. I've literally just seen a thread on my local towns Facebook page. A bloke said unchecked illegal migration is a bad thing (My home town is screwed because of it)

Every reply? He's a Racist..

My wife, half hour a go sent me a video from Bath town centre, she couldn't get through the middle of town as there's a solid wall of protesters shouting 'From the river to the sea', banners, plaques, the lot..

This is a clown country

We're fucked.

I hate it.

We are most certainly in a battle of good vs evil.

 

[protonion]

Of all the conspiracy theories out there, I'm ready to fully accept that the world is run by pedophiles.
Sex drive is a huge biological force. Little by little they climbed in power only allowing their kind in. It's the only way to satisfy their needs, through power.
It would neatly explain everything.

Child rape is the only crime that can unite the world. When we hear such crimes everyone screams kill them and we mean it. Killed in jail by inmates? Eh, who cares?

We have child rapes on a enormous scale (not only this case here) and governments, journalists, police twist their fingers? You are pedophiles.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Europe has been fought over since the dawn of man all for it to be given away by a group of idiots.

Basically what's happening/happened.

 

[Tams]

Europe has been fought over since the dawn of man all for it to be given away by a group of idiots.

It enrages me that my grandfather and his colleagues fought and lost so much just for this.

The establishment go through the motions of remembering them every year, but they have been and are aiding the destruction of what was fought for so hard and with such great loss. And then they have the temerity to call those who even criticise them 'far right'.

All while those they are defending either don't care for the sacrifices our forebearers made or actively despise us.

Most ironically of all, the absolute inaction of the establishment will likely lead to a rise of the far right.

 

[Senua]

Jonathan Pie has his say

 

[DeepEnigma]

Jonathan Pie has his say

 

[Tams]

Jonathan Pie has his say

I used to like Pie.

And I was with him until the Musk trying to undermine British democracy and install his own puppet bit.

Sure, Musk is out there for Musk, and he's a massive shitposter and troll. In part (how much, I don't know) he has 'exploited' (though wouldn't call trolling exploitment) the atrocities the paedo rape gangs committed and the coverup by authorities.

But the fact remains, he brought these almost completely forgotten gross injustices to light and has shone a light on the corruption of UK politics. I can forgive a bit of self-aggrandizement and trolling for that.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I used to like Pie.

And I was with him until the Musk trying to undermine British democracy and install his own puppet bit.

Sure, Musk is out there for Musk, and he's a massive shitposter and troll. In part (how much, I don't know) he has 'exploited' (though wouldn't call trolling exploitment) the atrocities the paedo rape gangs committed and the coverup by authorities.

But the fact remains, he brought these almost completely forgotten gross injustices to light and has shone a light on the corruption of UK politics. I can forgive a bit of self-aggrandizement and trolling for that.

Yep, it's just more of the tired whataboutisms we could really do without.

It's getting to the point now of either pure unadulterated stupidity or some form of tendencies, or more dangerously, both together

Enough of this shit.

 

[Tams]

Yep, it's just more of the tired whataboutisms we could really do without.

It's getting to the point now of either pure unadulterated stupidity or some form of tendencies, or more dangerously, both together

Enough of this shit.

I just wish I knew what to do.

I actually know an MP and work with his staff. Thankfully he's utterly appalled by what has happened to the girls and the coverup. He doesn't appreciate the extent of the coverup though and doesn't understand that focussing on Musk's egotism is just a whataboutism.

The worst part are his staff though. Every single one of them are solidly in the 'Musk is intervening in British politics!' camp. They almost never discuss the atrocities and victims. One even asked me, 'It's only a few gangs and girls though, right?'. I almost threw a laptop at said person.

But ultimately, what can I do? They won't listen.

 

[Stitch]

 

[DeepEnigma]

And I bet it goes deeper than just him.

 

[Putonahappyface]

 

[Putonahappyface]

And I bet it goes deeper than just him.

100%. Have you heard of an MP called Cyril Smith?

 

[ClanOfNone]

100%. Have you heard of an MP called Cyril Smith?

Holy shit, irl Mr. Creosote.

 

[Artoris]

Holy shit, irl Mr. Creosote.

offer him a mint

 

[6502]

Another 'gem':



Their parents weren't asked either.

This was a school project for kids to put together a video. This is not an official video of any agency, just look at the quality ffs.

And it isn't about promoting ideology either. I went to this school, in my day we had to do panflets regarding the slave trade, some had to do pro, others anti as if written for debate at that time. The idea is to learn to debate a position, appreciate why people have different views and motivations etc.. this isn't a "woke" issue vs common sense.

It is disgusting that people want to twist or misrepresent without understanding or context, but people are not beyond dragging innocent kids into a highly charged political debate about child abuse to score some points.

The issue at hand is amongst the most serious, but instead of focusing on the perpitrators and the clowns who covered it up, we are turning it into another culture war.

That's why people misrepresent wrecking amendments which kill a bill about childrens welfare which if succeed would do nothing but make calls (not actually set up) an enquiry... but blast media with lies about the process and their intent... just read the damn amendment.. it was all about protecting academy schools and had a few words in the final sentence about an enquiry. They focus on the words of "so called grooming" and waste energy trying to change words to a more impactful headline when focusing on the very fact that the victims were groomed, and those with any sense know what this term means, shows the decision to claim "informed choices" of victims is doubly outrageous. But politicians want to sound tough instead.

It is why after refusing to implement recommendations of the last enquiry and calling it "£60M spaffed up a wall for no reason" and refusing further enquiries, the recently ousted opposition are suddenly all for it despite blocking it when in office. Because they don't in their hearts want to resolve it, they want to milk it.

Ordinary people want these fuckers held to account. We want those who betrayed these kids and our country held to account. Instead we are being fed distractions by those who see a political opportunity and idiots using shit like this video of 11-12 year old school kids to do it. Disgraceful.

 

[Tams]

This was a school project for kids to put together a video. This is not an official video of any agency, just look at the quality ffs.

And it isn't about promoting ideology either. I went to this school, in my day we had to do panflets regarding the slave trade, some had to do pro, others anti as if written for debate at that time. The idea is to learn to debate a position, appreciate why people have different views and motivations etc.. this isn't a "woke" issue vs common sense.

It is disgusting that people want to twist or misrepresent without understanding or context, but people are not beyond dragging innocent kids into a highly charged political debate about child abuse to score some points.

The issue at hand is amongst the most serious, but instead of focusing on the perpitrators and the clowns who covered it up, we are turning it into another culture war.

That's why people misrepresent wrecking amendments which kill a bill about childrens welfare which if succeed would do nothing but make calls (not actually set up) an enquiry... but blast media with lies about the process and their intent... just read the damn amendment.. it was all about protecting academy schools and had a few words in the final sentence about an enquiry. They focus on the words of "so called grooming" and waste energy trying to change words to a more impactful headline when focusing on the very fact that the victims were groomed, and those with any sense know what this term means, shows the decision to claim "informed choices" of victims is doubly outrageous. But politicians want to sound tough instead.

It is why after refusing to implement recommendations of the last enquiry and calling it "£60M spaffed up a wall for no reason" and refusing further enquiries, the recently ousted opposition are suddenly all for it despite blocking it when in office. Because they don't in their hearts want to resolve it, they want to milk it.

Ordinary people want these fuckers held to account. We want those who betrayed these kids and our country held to account. Instead we are being fed distractions by those who see a political opportunity and idiots using shit like this video of 11-12 year old school kids to do it. Disgraceful.

Sorry to have misrepresented it.

I still do not think it is appropriate, and question the teaching staff who suggested or approved it. There are much better topics to practice critical thinking and debate on. Nor is essentially the creation of propaganda required for that.

Yes, the Tories were not acting good faith, but that is hardly surprising.

As I outlined earlier though, Parliament is so arcane that adding in something to at most a tangentially connected bill is sometimes the only way any opposition can even get their voices heard.

 

[6502]

Sorry to have misrepresented it.

I still do not think it is appropriate, and question the teaching staff who suggested or approved it. There are much better topics to practice critical thinking and debate on. Nor is essentially the creation of propaganda required for that.

Yes, the Tories were not acting good faith, but that is hardly surprising.

As I outlined earlier though, Parliament is so arcane that adding in something to at most a tangentially connected bill is sometimes the only way any opposition can even get their voices heard.

Yeah, sorry if it sounds like that was directed at you personally. This is my community and I know how things work and feel awful for these kids being dragged into this.

 

[FunkMiller]

It is disgusting that people want to twist or misrepresent without understanding or context, but people are not beyond dragging innocent kids into a highly charged political debate about child abuse to score some points.

The issue at hand is amongst the most serious, but instead of focusing on the perpitrators and the clowns who covered it up, we are turning it into another culture war.

Innocent children in Britain, entire communities of people in the USA… recent news stories are highlighting how some people really show their asses when horrible stuff like this happens.

 

[EviLore]

 

[RagnarokIV]

Disgusting, especially the smug attitude of people towards her.

 

[Gamerfan81]

In the UK, multiculturalism is pretty much a national cult, buried deep into the civil service. We even had a coun minted that said, 'Diversity Built Britain'.

I've generally just sort of accepted that it's a good thing, but not cared much. Recently though, I've been contemplating multiculturalism a lot recently because of the horrific crimes that have happened.

I've come to the conclusion that multiculturalism is fundamentally flawed, and that this is also now backed up by emperical evidence. Not only that, but that those who support multiculturalism do damage to diversity.

I don't remember who I got this from, but an analogy of paints makes sense to me.

• If you have a rainbow of different paints in separate cups, they you have a diverse range of colours.
• If you add a small bit of one or two to another, you often end up with an interesting variation of the base colour, but it is still the base colour.
• If you a lot of one to another, you drastically change the other, effectively removing that colour from the selection, turning it into a variation of the added colour.
• If you add all the colours into one cup, you end up with just black.

So really, you can't have a multicultural society. Either one culture will dominate or it'll all homogeise into one very different culture.

The US is not an exception, as they simply had (and still have) such a large population to help prevent their culture being destroyed.

Singapore doesn't count either, as they keep their society divided ethnically and enforce it in an authoritarian manner.

After reading your post, I was straining to remember which professor had a detailed study on the failures and challenges of multiculturalism years back, so I used chatgpt to find the answer.

The Harvard professor most associated with a study on the failings or challenges of multiculturalism is Robert D. Putnam, a political scientist and professor of public policy. His research, particularly his 2007 study titled "E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the Twenty-first Century", examined the relationship between diversity and social trust.

In the study, Putnam found that higher levels of ethnic diversity in communities were correlated with lower levels of social trust, both between different groups and within groups. He described this phenomenon as a "hunkering down" effect, where people in diverse communities tend to withdraw socially. The study sparked significant debate about the implications of multiculturalism for social cohesion.

However, Putnam emphasized that while diversity might initially present challenges, its long-term benefits for innovation, economic growth, and cultural richness outweigh these challenges. He also argued for creating conditions that foster social integration and trust over time.

Would you like more details on his findings or their broader context?

 

[Bojji]

Of all the conspiracy theories out there, I'm ready to fully accept that the world is run by pedophiles.
Sex drive is a huge biological force. Little by little they climbed in power only allowing their kind in. It's the only way to satisfy their needs, through power.
It would neatly explain everything.

Child rape is the only crime that can unite the world. When we hear such crimes everyone screams kill them and we mean it. Killed in jail by inmates? Eh, who cares?

We have child rapes on a enormous scale (not only this case here) and governments, journalists, police twist their fingers? You are pedophiles.

Yep. Elites are full of people that like to do shit like that. pedophilia is forbidden fruit:



You also have women agreeing to eat shit (and stuff) from wealthy Arabs in Dubai:

This is what power does to you, you can do unspeakable shit to other people and get away with it because money = power.

Epstein and all his friends, P. Diddy, European elites (mentioned in video above), that motherfucker from BBC, etc.

Difference is, elites are hiding most of this stuff and it rarely sees the light of day. In this case people were talking about if for decades and many culprits were just regular guys without large amounts of money or connections. Instead, government and police protected them for whatever fucking bullshit reason they had.

 

[EviLore]

(Welp, she wasn’t joking)

 

[Tams]

(Welp, she wasn’t joking)

If anyone is curious about that paedo's profile, save your brain the distress and don't bother looking.