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Why has the narrative switched from just buy a PC to a sudden attack on PC gaming?

Danjin44

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It's one reason I don't care about PC anymore (I still play PC but it's not like how it was 10 years ago). It's easily the most expensive option to game on now.
I always been console gamer and I'm not graphics enthusiast enough I was willing to pay for Pro let alone high end PC.
 

EverydayBeast

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Pc gaming exploded in the last 5 years the market is enormous and people are spending tons on parts like graphic cards and everything needed.
 
Again when it comes to PC gaming I have no clue, I’m just going by GAF saying prices gone very high when comes GPU.
They have, but here;'s the trick.
Don't buy 4k monitors and you can get by with a sub 400 gpu.

Shit you can get by with a 1070 on most games by just turning down a few settings.
I have a 3060ti and ryzen 3600 , i max everything out at 1080p, my monitors refresh. I have had the same card since 2021. No need to buy anything new.

People here are either wealthy , or live with their parents, don't have a wife/kids/bills/ and can justify 2k+ on a gpu alone.
a few years ago the most expensive gpus were $500 then the titan was a grand. The 20xx series started the bs pricing.
 
Some people think you MUST have the newest cpu/gpu to play the latest games on pc where you can play anything with something like a ryzen 3700x and a 3080 just fine.
a 1070 will do for 1080p or lower a 3080+ is only needed for 4k. My 3060ti maxes all my games. My 2060 and 1060 before that for the time period using 1080p 60fps. Oh and 120-144fps is overkill, over hype for gpu makers and monitor companies.
 
Internet enthusiasts get mad about mid to high end hardware prices. Personally these days most games don't even look that bad on low settings. So in that sense to me someday integrated graphics will hit a point where that services the majority of PC gamers incredibly well. Like 5 years from now Strix Halo chips that are comparable to mobility 4060-4070 chips will be cheap entry level stuff where the PS5 and Switch 2 are baseline performance targets that PS6 enthusiast owners whine about holding games back
 

jmiller180

Member
I'd enthusiastically go back to console gaming if it was guaranteed 60fps (120fps for FPS games) at 1440p/4k (upscaled or not) across ALL games. This is a pipe dream without proper developer tuning and good upscaling tech among other things. Until then, the only option is to stick with PC gaming and ludicrous price of hardware. I already have the troubleshooting knowledge, so it makes the decision easier.

PC fanboys used to pronounce that the game sales were so much better that it made up for the price difference between PC and console hardware. I think we are well past that unless you are buying absurd quantities of new AAA games each year. I could see why people would be frustrated by that (false) narrative being pushed at them.
 
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Imagine if that ps5 pro was not a piece of shit upgrade, pc gaming would have been in big trouble. Sony lost out big time and pc gaming stumbles along the with overpriced gpus and poor ports.
 
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rm082e

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I love PC but cannot recommend it to anyone given the state of hardware. It was a lot easier when a great PC was $1250.

I hate to say it but...just buy a PS5 Pro.
 
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tkscz

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It didn't switch.
Even with 5000 series issues PC gamers have other options.

Great time to start or continue being a PC gamer.
The GPU market itself is the issue, it takes no time for prices to reach well above MSRP and the stock dries up.

Even now, the Intel Arc B580, a card that's meant to be the best mid-ranged card for it's price at the moment, shot up from $250 to $350+ due to the terrible GPU market and this keeps happening.

Even with AMD's promise of a stable stock of 9070s, I can only see the cards selling insanely above MSRP is a months time.

The only real options PC games with low funds have are to buy used parts or wait until AMD releases more APUs with the 8060S iGPU and save up until they can afford a graphics card.
 

Fbh

Member
As someone who has been wanting to switch to PC for a long time, prices are just insane at the moment.

It used to be "A pretty good PC is like 3 times as much as a console". Now it's like "A mid tier GPU alone is as like 3 times as much as a console because MSRP is a myth and everything is overpriced".
 

Sgt. Pinback

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There is no 'narrative switch'. But, the criticisms of the PC at the moment are:
  1. Hardware is ludicrously overpriced
  2. Ports are shit
Unfortunately, it's becoming increasingly difficult to argue. I have a 4090, but I shudder when I think about what it'll look like when I want to upgrade. There are 5090 prebuilts in Australia that are ten thousand dollars.

Which I will probably end up paying because I'm fucked in the head.
 
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Sgt. Pinback

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You know what, PC gamers have gotten away with being above the fray for ages. It's because they mostly kept to themselves, rarely involving themselves in the console war.

Microsoft co-opted PC gaming because they want to own that too and they fucking HATE Sony, make no mistake. Many of the top human beings at Microsoft hate the human beings at Sony and their fans. They want to make sure that Xbox leavers head to PC. The bad feelings between MS and Sony and the market leadership of Sony have made PC and Xbox have an allied cause.

After this began to happen, many PC gamers began to get vocal with some of their long held beliefs and suppositions. Many of these beliefs are antiquated and incorrect. Most of them are meant to agitate. Agitprop against Sony. In doing so they got the attention of the average online Sony fan.

Now they are finding out what it means to pick a side in the console war. Every shitty thing their preferred platform has going for it, Sony fans are going to highlight. It really feels super shitty when others are shitting on your favorite thing all the time. It's almost like PC fans don't like a taste of their own medicine.
This is like something a 10 year old would say.
 

Senua

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You know what, PC gamers have gotten away with being above the fray for ages. It's because they mostly kept to themselves, rarely involving themselves in the console war.

Microsoft co-opted PC gaming because they want to own that too and they fucking HATE Sony, make no mistake. Many of the top human beings at Microsoft hate the human beings at Sony and their fans. They want to make sure that Xbox leavers head to PC. The bad feelings between MS and Sony and the market leadership of Sony have made PC and Xbox have an allied cause.

After this began to happen, many PC gamers began to get vocal with some of their long held beliefs and suppositions. Many of these beliefs are antiquated and incorrect. Most of them are meant to agitate. Agitprop against Sony. In doing so they got the attention of the average online Sony fan.

Now they are finding out what it means to pick a side in the console war. Every shitty thing their preferred platform has going for it, Sony fans are going to highlight. It really feels super shitty when others are shitting on your favorite thing all the time. It's almost like PC fans don't like a taste of their own medicine.
Episode 2 GIF by Star Wars
 

Aenima

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When in doubt, blame Sony.


I don’t really see an attack on PC gaming other than people venting about GPU prices and scalpers buying up inventory.
This.

I have been looking to build a new PC for gaming to retire my 10 year old laptop, and its frustating how overpriced PC components became since last time i build a gaming PC.

Because of my researches my youtube is filled with channels dedicated to PC hardware and ALL youtubers dedicated to PC hardware are not happy with the PC market. NONE of them are happy. Mostly because of the Nvidia shitshow.

Trying to spinf this as if its some kind of console war is peak retardation.
 

Zathalus

Member
These GPUs are not even being built for gaming. Are being built to run AI. And thats the problem

You understand why the prices are inflated right?

Companies buying them for A.I & Mining
The 5090 is a perfectly good card for some AI tasks, but anything below that simply doesn’t have enough VRAM to be all that useful for corporations. Sure you can run some AI models on a 5080, but the lack of VRAM is going to pose a problem for the more complicated ones, which require 48GB to multiple TBs of memory.
 
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