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Why the PC Should Become The Home Base for Every HardCore Gamer
- Thread starter nbthedude
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It's pretty depressing. I spent over an hour on that OP and seemingly nobody reads it. It's just the same old PC vs. console memes going back and forth.
Halo is on PC though.
legacyzero
Banned
Already there OP. This side of the fence is Green. SO GREEN.
Interfectum
Member
I've done that on my PC for years. What bullshit are you referring to? The laggy sign in process? The constant system updates?
Perhaps but that's also why I said "Hardcore" gamer, meaning the gaming enthusiasts. Just like someone who rides a bike and buys it at Walmart isn't the same as the guy who is really into bike riding and customizes his own and shops at bike shops for parts.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Only works on some Steam games. Doesn't work for Uplay, Origin, Battle.net, etc. Console convenience will never be beat.
iNvid02
Member
Checking specs so hard.
SirButterstick
Banned
YouEnjoyMySelf
Banned
Why not both?
PC/PS 4 lyfe
PC/PS 4 lyfe
BrokenEchelon
Banned
Xpadder, or other programs that you can easily configure to assign a controller button input to a keyboard input. Takes five minutes.
I'm not denying that consoles have worthwhile exclusives, but that number is dwindling and those titles don't appeal to everyone, so the pool of games becomes even smaller. I care about Gran Turismo and Forza for example, but don't give a shit about Fable and MLB The Show.
In every other aspect the PC shits on consoles from light years away. Is it less "convenient"? Sure, but that's just code for "I'm lazy" to me.
SugarDaddy
Member
If you want what is arguably the best experience for multiplatform games, PC is what you need.
If you want access to first party exclusives, you'll still need a console(s).
IMO, go for what best fits your needs. PC + PS3 has served me well this past gen, and I expect the same from PC + PS4 next gen too.
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If you want access to first party exclusives, you'll still need a console(s).
IMO, go for what best fits your needs. PC + PS3 has served me well this past gen, and I expect the same from PC + PS4 next gen too.
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Always-honest
Banned
Don't ge me wrong. I love certain aspects of pc gaming. Best framerate, textures, best anti-aliassing, etc. And an enourmes library. And there ARE exclusives that i'd LOVE to play.
But to play pc games in the fidelity thati would buy it for it would be a pretty expensive endevour.
And personally i think it's a hassle sometimes. Windows is complete shit imo and there is always some issue hat you have to deal with, it seems.
But to play pc games in the fidelity thati would buy it for it would be a pretty expensive endevour.
And personally i think it's a hassle sometimes. Windows is complete shit imo and there is always some issue hat you have to deal with, it seems.
RumblingRosco
Member
I'm on the PC train, but I enjoy supplementing it with Wii (or, now, the Wii U). I get the Nintendo exclusives which I love and all the 3rd party big releases that skip the Wii U. The only games I miss are a few exclusives to Sony/MS, but at the end of the day, I don't have enough time to play all the games I want to play anyway, so I never feel like I'm missing out too much.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Having to do that for every game that doesn't isn't fun. And I was mainly talking about Big Picture mode, not controller support.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
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Seriously though, what'd you expect? People can not bear being called out for the "muddy ass texture boxes" they buy, nor for their "oh look my GPU is so much bigger than yours" attitude.
No, not really. Gaming on a PC brings it's own share of headaches, that to many gamers would not be worth it. You can be a gaming enthusiast and not care about the advantages PC gaming brings, easily. Some people just want to unwind and play a game in their free-time, not troubleshoot shit when things go wrong. They just things to work and that's something a console is very good at. I don't mind it much myself, but It's not for everyone, not at all.
The indisputable truth. Obviously, exclusives can justify console pickups- no argument there- but it's really weird to see the console wars starting up again and everyone beginning to lord the various benefits of their platform or platform to be's account system, hardware power, backwards compatibility, controller options, drm, etc. over the others when the PC will trounce every console handily in every category. You want a simple, more affordable compromise? Fine, but, as I just said in the latest Kuchera thread, you cannot pretend to take the high ground on these features by pointing to another console; you either acknowledge that you are making a compromise or you recognize the PC as the ultimate gaming machine.
I would have assumed you already left the console market and followed them to handhelds anyway.
I would have assumed you already left the console market and followed them to handhelds anyway.
Different types of people. There are car enthusiasts who dont want to bother with modding their cars and just want something that is fun to drive out of the box. Likewise with gamers - they just want to get to the act of enjoying games without extra work involved.
I didn't say anything in the OP or the topic about not owning consoles at all. I'm not sure why people keep interpreting it this way.
This is not a "PC vs. Consoles: One or the Other" thread.
Mass Effect
Member
PC gaming is awesome, but PC gaming is a bitch sometimes.
For example, Steam wasn't working a couple of days ago so I had to troubleshoot that for hours.
Now my Nvidia Control Panel is leaking memory like crazy and crashing my PC.
Not to mention the other problems sometimes incurred from PC gaming; Hardware issues, driver issues, game issues, etc.
PC gaming is great and all, but it's definitely not for everyone.
For example, Steam wasn't working a couple of days ago so I had to troubleshoot that for hours.
Now my Nvidia Control Panel is leaking memory like crazy and crashing my PC.
Not to mention the other problems sometimes incurred from PC gaming; Hardware issues, driver issues, game issues, etc.
PC gaming is great and all, but it's definitely not for everyone.
Which is something I don't have to worry about with my current arrangement. Also, a lot of times what they say min specs are for a game are pretty bullshit, it's not true min specs if you really want a decent playing game.
Some people just want to sit down, play games and not worry about bullshit. I love my PC, but unless you really care about visual fidelity, might as well stick with consoles. I completely understand anyone who doesn't bother with pc gaming, but I'm never going back haha. Because I think all the trouble is fucking worth it.
With the way the XBone sounds, The only difference will be making sure your PC is compatible with the game. You have to "install", the game now either way, But to be fair i believe you can start playing your game on the XBone immediately, where as I believe you still have the waiting game on PC.
I switched. It's awesome. All the talk of exclusives and driver updates is worthless. The best stuff comes out everywhere and I can already do the multi-tasking stuff that is supposed to save the consoles. please. I even use my phone as a wi-fi mouse in the living room with no issues. The desktop itself hasn't been touched since I first turned it on. Big Picture mode on a solid PC is already next gen, the rest is gimmicks and marketing.
That''s why this E3 is going to be a delight instead of a trainwreck. Let Sony and Microsoft fight to the death for my console dollar, I'll pick up the winnrar when the dust has settled.
That''s why this E3 is going to be a delight instead of a trainwreck. Let Sony and Microsoft fight to the death for my console dollar, I'll pick up the winnrar when the dust has settled.
I H8 Memes
Member
There would be no such thing as exclusives if everyone were a PC gamer.
I know it wont happen, but man the time has really come for people to switch to PC gaming. With as bad as the recent moves have been from the controlled market of console gaming, just imagine how much worse it will get. It isnt like things are going to get any less restrictive or invasive.
I know it wont happen, but man the time has really come for people to switch to PC gaming. With as bad as the recent moves have been from the controlled market of console gaming, just imagine how much worse it will get. It isnt like things are going to get any less restrictive or invasive.
SnakeswithLasers
Member
The XBO is just a W8 HTPC, isn't it? At least, that's the impression I got from them.
I prefer the console experience. Turn the console on, pop the game in, play.
No activation code, no always-online nonsense, no fiddling with drivers, no DRM ridden Steam, none of that. Just the above. This is why Microsoft and Sony are pissing me off with their desire to bring that dynamic to the uncomplicated console space.
It helps that 90% of the games I'm interested on are console games.
No activation code, no always-online nonsense, no fiddling with drivers, no DRM ridden Steam, none of that. Just the above. This is why Microsoft and Sony are pissing me off with their desire to bring that dynamic to the uncomplicated console space.
It helps that 90% of the games I'm interested on are console games.
Felix Lighter
Member
I do feel that the hardest of the hardcore, like those who would post on GAF on a regular basis, should find the PC extremely appealing. The flexibility of the open platform is something infinitely more valuable than a handful of exclusives.
fair enough
Dark Octave
Banned
It's true about the MS not letting game prices drop below a certain amount and being able to choose when to buy in on PC with their great sales.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Thanks for shitting on the effort the OP made with one lazy and misguided sentence there, fella.
@OP, good job.
A few more to add:
-don't like screentearing? Don't mind screentearing but hate the input lag from vsync? Do you think DMC or sonic racing transformed or dark souls would be way more enjoyable if they were 60 fps instead of 30 fps? Don't like bloom or depth of field or motion blur? Don't like the fuzzy look of FXAA? Do you for some reason prefer to shit on the visuals by over (or de-) saturising the colors? Do you think the UI is too big or do you hate the control deadzones/acceleration?
Noone is stopping you from changing any of these to your liking.
-PC has a massive library of exclusives, some of which are consindered by many gamers as the games of the decade or generation.
Be it natural selection 2, dota, red orchestra 2 , civilization, europa universalis, rfactor , dawn of war 2, king's bounty , arma or any of the many, many games of a wide variety that offer gameplay experiences you simply can't find on the consoles at all that you fancy.
There is a huge variety of extremely high quality exclusive games on PC.
-you'll discover a whole new world when it comes to game communities, having the ability to text chat with the other team or other players easily and not being at the mercy of whatever voice control codec the developer/console maker chooses both enable communities to form beyond just filling your friends list with some names.
Alcoholikaust
Member
"Best" is far from the correct response.
-I love my free updates via steam/origin,
-love cloud saving since last year....
-smoother experience in general
-cheaper games, or easy ways to get 20-25percent off day one (GMG!)-havent paid retail price on a pc release since D3-
I think people in the car community would argue that someone who wants no "hands on" with working on or customizing cars is not really an "enthusiast."
Just like someone who spends as lot of money on a huge TV and 360 and has a friend recommend games to him but never actually reads or discusses them outside of his weekend escapes is not really an enthusiast gamer. Spending a lot of money does not equal "enthusiasts/hobbyist"
Writer_Head
Member
Thanks for a well-written post. Sadly hardcore gamers will have to end up buying all systems because of the exclusive titles.
Man, you're going to love next gen.
I already game on my PC but it's not my primary game machine because of the lack of console games
And I don't mean FPS, sports and racers but Japanese games and arcadey genres played with a pad or arcade stick.
And while the odd console game has gotten onto Steam, Valves lazy approach to game curation and Greenlight with the vast majority of voters going for gimmicks or M&K based games most Japanese and classic arcade games aren't getting onto the store.
I'm sick of looking at a newly released sidescroller / run and gunner to find out it's M&K based not pad like Contra is.
And I don't mean FPS, sports and racers but Japanese games and arcadey genres played with a pad or arcade stick.
And while the odd console game has gotten onto Steam, Valves lazy approach to game curation and Greenlight with the vast majority of voters going for gimmicks or M&K based games most Japanese and classic arcade games aren't getting onto the store.
I'm sick of looking at a newly released sidescroller / run and gunner to find out it's M&K based not pad like Contra is.
I'd rather be able to play 90% of the other stuff, aka third party developed games, with high performance and fantastic visuals. The best looking/performing console exclusives don't beat out a decently optimized third party game.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
I installed new drivers yesterday. It took about 10 minutes, occured in the background while I was listening to music and reading an article.
I bought a copy of The Witcher: EE for $10 new, installed it (in the background while doing other things). Spent five minutes configuring the video settings to make it look better than it ever would on consoles, and then started playing it.
Woe is us.
You can add non-Steam games to launch via Steam. I'm not sure if that works in BPM or not though, but either way, you make a shortcut on the desktop and voila.
Sentenza
Member
Console "convenience" doesn't even exist in the long run.
Sometimes I look at my library of purchases across the last "gen" and I laugh at the idea of how much more it would cost me on console.
I could probably buy one or two brand new PCs just out of that price difference.
On one hand, anybody that says PC gaming is entirely as convenient as console games is hella lying, but on the other, anybody that is interested in games enough to post on NeoGAF could probably handle going the extra baby steps to play stuff on PC and get the serious benefits from it.
If we're bringing "hardcore" into this, I don't understand how someone who is really into games and has some cash/living space would only have a PC or not have a PC.
If we're bringing "hardcore" into this, I don't understand how someone who is really into games and has some cash/living space would only have a PC or not have a PC.