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Wkd BO 04•14-16•17 - Can't fight fate, Baby: F8 leaves WW B.O. opening record in dust

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broncobuster

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Honestly depends on how they sell it. Everybody knows they'll keep making MCU movies until it's no longer financially viable. But if they sell it as a finale to their golden boy Iron Man, maybe that could do it. Seem to recall that last Harry Potter getting a healthy bump.
 
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tonka

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kswiston said:
I never even thought about using that for opening weekends. Mojo already collects most of the data, so it would be pretty straight forward.

Using the same stipulation of counting only wide releases, here are the multipliers for all record breaking weekends since Jedi, compared the the annual average opening weekend for releases >600 venues.


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Title			OW Gross	Year	Annual OW Avg (wide)	Multiplier
Return of the Jedi	$23,019,618 	1983	$4,199,884 		5.48x
Temple of Doom		$25,337,110 	1984	$4,505,360 		5.62x
Beverly Hills Cop 2	$26,348,555 	1987	$4,427,905 		5.95x
The Last Crusade	$29,355,021 	1989	$5,920,478 		4.96x
Ghostbusters 2		$29,472,894 	1989	$5,920,478 		4.98x
Batman			$40,489,746 	1989	$5,920,478 		6.84x
Batman Returns		$45,687,711 	1992	$7,099,434 		6.44x
Jurassic Park		$47,026,828 	1993	$6,478,200 		7.26x
Batman Forever		$52,784,433 	1995	$7,841,543 		6.73x
The Lost World		$72,132,785 	1997	$10,080,531	 	7.16x
Harry Potter: atSS	$90,294,621 	2001	$15,313,480	 	5.90x
Spider-Man		$114,844,116 	2002	$15,786,477 		7.27x
Dead Man's Chest	$135,634,554 	2006	$15,228,263 		8.91x
Spider-Man 3		$151,116,516 	2007	$15,438,835 		9.79x
The Dark Knight		$158,411,483 	2008	$17,670,249 		8.96x
Deathly Hallows 2	$169,189,427 	2011	$21,020,331 		8.05x
The Avengers		$207,438,708 	2012	$22,503,178 		9.22x
Jurassic World		$208,806,270 	2015	$22,694,614 		9.20x
The Force Awakens	$247,966,675 	2015	$22,694,614 		10.93x


For comparison sake, 6.00x last year was $130M. So Suicide Squad deviated further from the average than any of the 80s films listed, save Batman.
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Batman appearing here 4 times maybe makes me see why people thought BvS would be bigger than it was.

Cheers for the data gathering swis
 
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PhoncipleBone

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Anth0ny said:
well he was barely in the advertising for the movie. I'm hoping that's not the case again for Infinity War.

Guardians will be a big draw too, I suspect.
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Make a teaser that is just one long, continuous shot. Start with space, then have Iron Man, Cap, Thor, and the core Avengers team appear on screen like the team shot from the first Avengers. Then it just keeps going as more and more characters join in, like Doctor Strange, Black Panther, and ending with the Guardians joining the team. As the camera pulls back showing the obscenely massive team up Infinity War will be, the camera then turns to show who they are facing. It is just Thanos by himself with the Infinity Gauntlet on, and they recreate this cover:

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MHWilliams

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tonka said:
Batman appearing here 4 times maybe makes me see why people thought BvS would be bigger than it was.

Cheers for the data gathering swis
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Batman is a top-tier brand. With Superman should've been an easy win.

See also: Amazing Spider-Man 1/2.

Branduil said:
When people say "Harry Potter money," I'm thinking of multiple films which make billions of dollars, not a single successful film. Feels like an understatement of just how much money Harry Potter has made.
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Only the last made more than a billion, because it was the final film. Most are thinking "Harry Potter money" to mean, "as much as a Harry Potter film, with room for sequels".
 
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jett

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Solo said:
ABADAR DEUX will make these threads fun again in a way they haven't been since.....ABADAR UNO.
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Ma Solo

kswiston said:
It's regional, but it makes enough of a difference that the regular cheap Tuesday bump is negated. F8 will probably be slightly down or even today.



That thread was longer than all of the Avatar era Box office threads combined. This thread is already longer than the peak Avatar thread (its second weekend). Box Office GAF was small back then.
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Not content with making the worldwide box office explode, James Cameron clearly made BoxOfficeGAF what it is today.

Based Cameron

Solo said:
It's not about post count or about the increase in popularity of box office at GAF though. It's about the hundreds of Gaffers who were certain it would bomb, who were seemingly vindicated on opening weekend, who were surprised when it was flat it's second weekend, who began to sweat a bit when it was flat again its third weekend, and were full on shitting their pants when it set the record for best 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th weekends, was #2 all time in 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th weekends. And then when it took down Titanic and crossed $2B......well, that was a memorable time here.
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Never forget.
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And

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=385894&highlight=avatar

Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
Anyone who thought Avatar was bombing after its OW didn't have a clue how December box office works.
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A lot of people didn't have a clue then. The same crew were making excuses every weekend.

*Opens to second biggest December weekend*
"It's the opening weekend, means nothing, let's wait and see!*
*drops a single percent*
"It's Christmas, means nothing, let's wait and see!"
*drops a single-figure percent*
"It's New Years's, means nothing, let's wait and see!"
*two months later*
"It's uhh valentine's day!"
 
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3N16MA

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AoU is a big disappointment and Suicide Squad just broke even according to some. Avatar 2 will be spat on by some even if it hits 1.7B.

"1B drop!"
 
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Bobby Roberts

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3N16MA said:
AoU is a big disappointment and Suicide Squad just broke even according to some. Avatar 2 will be spat on by some even if it hits 1.7B.

"1B drop!"
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Oh jesus, it hadn't even occurred to me that would be a narrative.

It's absolutely going to be a narrative, isn't it.
 
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kswiston

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3N16MA said:
AoU is a big disappointment and Suicide Squad just broke even according to some. Avatar 2 will be spat on by some even if it hits 1.7B.

"1B drop!"
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It would be funny if it has the biggest drop of all time, but still lands in the WW top 5.
 
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3N16MA

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It will confuse the hell out of everyone who doesn't pay attention to the BO.

Massive drop, massive profit, bigger OW, smaller legs.
 
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Surfinn

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I'm really interested to see audience reception to a avatar sequel, assuming it's as high of quality as the original.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Surfinn said:
I'm really interested to see audience reception to a avatar sequel, assuming it's as high of quality as the original.
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I think that's going to be way more interesting than the box-office, honestly. I mean, the box-office is going to be fucking fascinating, but the weirdness of Cameron's filmmaking fetishes returning to the screen even bolder and bigger than 2009? Watching the reactions to that is going to be somethin.
 
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Surfinn

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Bobby Roberts said:
I think that's going to be way more interesting than the box-office, honestly. I mean, the box-office is going to be fucking fascinating, but the weirdness of Cameron's filmmaking fetishes returning to the screen even bolder and bigger than 2009? Watching the reactions to that is going to be somethin.
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I wonder if the spectacle is going to draw a similar fascination. I also wonder how ambitious the projects are.
 
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kswiston

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A few months ago, I said that I wouldn't be surprised to see Pirates 5 land in the 700M range. The last film would have made about $825M with today's exchange rates, and I figured that it was due for a drop in the US and Europe.

However, early buzz points to China still caring about the series. Some people think it has a shot at $200M there. Given that On Stranger tides made $70M in China, that would more than make up for any domestic shortfall.

3N16MA said:
What was the highest grossing Hollywood film in China before Avatar?
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2012 a few months before, with $68M or so. Transformers 2 had almost the same gross.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

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Buzz out of CinemaCon was very good too, for whatever that's worth. Reviews could make a big impact here; if they're good, hype could really swell since I'm sure many people still hold the first in high regard. Maybe if they play up Orlando Bloom more that'll have an effect.
 
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Anth0ny

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Bobby Roberts said:
I think that's going to be way more interesting than the box-office, honestly. I mean, the box-office is going to be fucking fascinating, but the weirdness of Cameron's filmmaking fetishes returning to the screen even bolder and bigger than 2009? Watching the reactions to that is going to be somethin.
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yeah the film and everything surrounding it is going to be really interesting to follow, no doubt. hell, it's even fun to speculate right now, and we don't know shit.
 
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Prompto

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Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
Buzz out of CinemaCon was very good too, for whatever that's worth. Reviews could make a big impact here; if they're good, hype could really swell since I'm sure many people still hold the first in high regard. Maybe if they play up Orlando Bloom more that'll have an effect.
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Never doubt Kon-tiki Hemlers.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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Bobby Roberts said:
I think that's going to be way more interesting than the box-office, honestly. I mean, the box-office is going to be fucking fascinating, but the weirdness of Cameron's filmmaking fetishes returning to the screen even bolder and bigger than 2009? Watching the reactions to that is going to be somethin.
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I am still clinging to the hope that George Miller lit a fire under Cameron's ass with Fury Road. Mad Max and Road Warrior were influences on Cameron, and seeing one of his idols (well, if he has actual idols) come along so late in the game and deliver something so sublime should make Cameron's drive to get bigger and better even stronger.
I am clinging to the hope that Cameron looked at Fury Road and then went back to his plans for the Avatar sequels and thought, "Show me up will you!? I will show you. I will show them all!"

Cameron has always been good at staying hungry. He never really rested on his laurels and was always trying to push himself and the technology further. It is just nice to think that something just made him hungrier.

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X05

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LordOfLore said:
Mexico really likes it.
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LatAm as a whole does, it set records everywhere in the region as F&F6 and F7 did.
Even where I am
(not that it really matters much as we are a really tiny market)
F8 became the third F&F movie to set a new OW record:
F6: ~30k admissions
F7: ~75k admissions
F8: ~90k admissions
 
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LordOfLore

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So this is a question I have about Superman movies someone here might be able to answer: How big actual hits were each of the old ones? Did they have really huge budgets?

Thought to ask since it's his 79th birthday.
 
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PhoncipleBone

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LordOfLore said:
So this is a question I have about Superman movies someone here might be able to answer: How big actual hits were each of the old ones? Did they have really huge budgets?

Thought to ask since it's his 79th birthday.
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The first film had a huge budget at the time I thought, and was also a huge success.
 
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kswiston

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$8.15M for F8 on Tuesday. Boxoffice.com is predicting a $37.5M second weekend. I could see it coming in a bit lower though.

Katherine Heigl's big return to the silver screen happens this weekend. We shall see if it surpasses its ~10M tracking. We shall also see if it can pass that 10% mark on RT.



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFXIBL617yc
 
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DMczaf

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Solo said:
DM and Guzim's pinnacle....before TDKR shattered them! Sad!
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Pfft, you know you miss us compared to the comic book and Star Wars posters today.

Come join us for our Dunkirk midnight showing! We are meeting up at Guzim's parents' house!
 
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Schlorgan

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Fate of the Furious creeping up on Kong's WW total. It'll probably pass it within the day (it's $2m behind WW, $45m behind domestic).
 
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