• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Wonder Woman game has already cost $100 million; “years away from release, if it ever makes it to market”

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Let's grab one of the most beloved and respected studios in the world that made three incredible and insanely popular single player Batman games and force them to spend TEN YEARS making a Live Service co-op looter-shooter featuring a bunch of characters literally nobody in the world cares about.

Everyone who thought this was a good idea should be fired and banned from the industry for life. Fuck WB Games.
Crazy. I didnt know SS was in dev this long but it's true.

WB started early work on the game so long ago, Xbox One and PS4 werent even announced yet. And they would release close to 2 years later.


A video game based on the Suicide Squad was announced by then DC Comics chief creative officer Geoff Johns in July 2010.[24] In February 2012, he elaborated that the game was in development, adding that "Because of the concept, you have a game where any of the lead characters can conceivably die and it's not a stunt. Some really cool story could come out of that."[25] The formation of the Suicide Squad was teased at the end of Batman: Arkham Origins (2013)—developed by WB Games Montréal—which featured a post-credits scene in which Deathstroke is asked by Amanda Waller to join the team, and in Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate (2013), in which Deadshot and Bronze Tiger join the team with Bane under consideration.[26][27] In the years since Batman: Arkham Knight (2015) was released, there had been rumors suggesting that WB Games Montréal was working on a Suicide Squad game, but no official announcement was made from the development team or publisher.[
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
DC Superhero games that should've been made before this:

Batman
Superman
Batman Beyond
Nightwing
The Flash
Green Lantern
And here, Wonder Woman

Im curious how a green lantern game would work.
It would be kinda like Control I guess?
A shooter but with other abilities(constructs) a bit of melee and flight??

I remember the Green Lantern game for the Ryan Reynolds GG, it was a beat-em which seemed really unGreen Lantern-ish.

I can see a The Flash game, but im almost certain it would be a super nerfed Flash cuz the Flash is so frikken broken.
With the right devs though it would be cool.

Batman Beyond needed to have come out before Gotham Knights.
In fact all the resources that went into making Gotham Knights and Suicide Squad should have gone into Batman Beyond.

Superman.......eh sure why not, that power fantasy sounds amazing.

P.S
Wonder Woman being a combat focused character who already has abilities similar to that of the Shadow of Mordor/War games makes alot more sense than making a Green Lantern game.
The devs have all but perfected that formula.
I really liked the Shadow of Games so more of that but in the Wonder Woman universe was right up my alley.
Her rogues gallery and supporting cast is awesome and varied enough that the devs could go wild on enemy designs and attack patterns.
I really hope this project doesnt fall through.

P.P.S Dont they dare try and hide her thighs.

P.P.P.S I hope Giganta starts off as a villain but they end up begrudgingly working together.
Giganta and Wonder Woman working together is always a fun time.

cda0e452e702420538362c9da451d3fc.jpg



Do men even want to play as Wonder Woman? I don't think so and lets be honest that's the demographic for this type of game. This will bomb.

Im not twelve so playing a female character doesnt bother me.
If she fucks shit up and the game is atleats as good as the Shadow of Games if not much better, then im in.
SHe has one of the most fun and varied rogues galleries in DC Justice League.
Will it bomb, i dont know.
But it certainly wont be because "men dont want to play as Wonder Woman"......which is such a weird weird outlook.
Do you actually believe men dont want to play as female characters.....let alone demogod female characters?
 

Little Mac

Gold Member
I can’t think of one Justice League member I wouldn’t rather play as …

Regardless, if it’s good, I’ll of course play it but I’m rather surprise so much money is being dumped into a videogame for this character.
 

Kacho

Gold Member
Do men even want to play as Wonder Woman? I don't think so and lets be honest that's the demographic for this type of game. This will bomb.
Generally speaking, no. People are always taking about Batman Beyond or Superman games. I've never seen anyone clamoring for a Wonder Woman game. Her rogues gallery is lame as hell too.

 

Kings Field

Member
The only good superhero games were Injustice 1 and 2.

I doubt with the way NRS is today being lead by GGAnoBits that they could make a decent Injustice game again.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
This is a completely self-inflicted wound that the entire Western AAA industry did to themselves and completely deserves. This level of stratospheric incompetence isn't about DEI or gamers having expectations that are too high or whatever the usual excuse is at the moment. This is, fortunately or unfortunately, a simple problem:

Games are specific. You can't drop some suit in a leadership role and expect them to spin shit into gold. You need to understand why people respond to certain games the way they do and why others get shunned. The only way to do that is to actually have some level of interest in the subject matter. Like it or not, you aren't selling vacuum cleaners. The issue is that it's also an exceptionally lucrative industry in terms of the sheer amount of money involved, so shareholders think the responsible thing is to bring in the guy who did a bang-up job running Applebees or some shit and then their Xbox will just print money.

They're learning that lesson the hard way, whether they realize it or not yet.
 
Last edited:

Boss Mog

Member
We need DOGE for dev studios. Cut out all the fat. Get rid of unskilled activist hires and don't even begin to fund shit projects in the first place.
 
Last edited:

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I can’t think of one Justice League member I wouldn’t rather play as …

Regardless, if it’s good, I’ll of course play it but I’m rather surprise so much money is being dumped into a videogame for this character.

Aquaman?
Hawkman?
Hawkgirl?
Atom - Not Captain Atom?
Elongated Man?
Red Tornado?
Black Canary?
Blue Beetle?



She also had the 5th highest selling comic of 2024:

  1. Absolute Batman #1
  2. Ultimate Spider-Man #1
  3. Absolute Superman #1
  4. Absolute Batman #2
  5. Absolute Wonder Woman #1
  6. X-Men #1
  7. Ultimate Spider-Man #2
  8. Uncanny X-Men #1
  9. Ultimate Spider-Man #3

Now true indeed she was never going to beat Batman or Spider-Man (Or Superman)
So logically going by popularity:
A Batman game is in order.....I believe Rocksteady are going back to that.
A Spider-Man game......weve had 3 and a 4th is all but guaranteed
A Superman game....I imagine devs are just scared of the IP and balancing such a game.
Then a Wonder Woman game........which is why we are on Wonder Woman.


Hell her solo book beat both X-men and Uncanny X-Men......Wolverines solo book doesnt even chart.
Venoms book didnt even chart.


Theres a reason she is part of the Trinity and it isnt like Martian Manhunter or Aquaman or whoever you think is more fitting for the role.
For fucks sake have you seen New 52 Batmans contingency plan to defeat her........

wonder-woman-doesnt-have-a-kryptonite.jpg


Yes its an empty box.....if Superman aint around and Wonder Woman goes crazy we are fucked.
Demi-God Wonder Woman would probably just resurrect and keep fucking shit up anyway,

People sleep on Wonder Woman.



Generally speaking, no. People are always taking about Batman Beyond or Superman games. I've never seen anyone clamoring for a Wonder Woman game. Her rogues gallery is lame as hell too.


She has the entire Pantheon of Greek Gods and the mythical Beasts that come with (good and evil)
The New Gods count as her Rogues gallery too....hell one of the best fights ive read in recent memory was Zeus vs Darkseid.
There are no rights disputes and without much competition with DC games she can pull pretty much any Justice League level villain to be the final boss.
 

rm082e

Member
I actively choose to make female characters in every game that lets me create a character. I can tell you right now the chances of them coming up with a Wonder Woman game that I would want to play are close to zero. Yeah yeah, I'm not a game developer - that's true. I can also tell you it's just not going to happen. That character is as boring as a block of fucking wood.
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
Do men even want to play as Wonder Woman? I don't think so and lets be honest that's the demographic for this type of game. This will bomb.
IDK it could go either way. If they made her sexy and stylish, and it had some really visceral and satisfying violence, I think it’s the sort of thing where gamers would see it and say “oh shit that actually looks really fun”. Something like Stellar Blade, Bayonetta, and Nier Automata.

If it looks like some Modern Audiences DEI strong woman game, instant mega bomb.
 

EN250

Member
From the DC trinity I always disliked boy scout alien with all the super powers, but I'm in the minority here, pretty sure a good Superman game would be more popular and appreciated than a WW game (mostly because it's know whoever makes it, would fuck up WW someway)
 

ProtoByte

Weeb Underling
They should just scrap it. Nobody asked for a Wonder Women game. Its one of those franchises nobody cares for, just like Suicide Squad.

I hate that Monolith Productions are being wasted on capeshit.
What the fuck else do you think a WB studio would be working on?

Imagine wasting the nemesys system on this trash that nobody asked for.
"No one asked for an Iron Man movie!"

Wonder Woman is an icon whom most people don't understand in terms of character or lore. There's a lot of opportunity in getting her right.

The removal of the Nemesis System is a shame - the Lasso of Truth has telepathic and mind control capabilities, alongside others. It actually fit perfectly with the Nemesis-Ally system done in Shadow of War.
 

Little Mac

Gold Member
Aquaman?
Hawkman?
Hawkgirl?
Atom - Not Captain Atom?
Elongated Man?
Red Tornado?
Black Canary?
Blue Beetle?



She also had the 5th highest selling comic of 2024:

  1. Absolute Batman #1
  2. Ultimate Spider-Man #1
  3. Absolute Superman #1
  4. Absolute Batman #2
  5. Absolute Wonder Woman #1
  6. X-Men #1
  7. Ultimate Spider-Man #2
  8. Uncanny X-Men #1
  9. Ultimate Spider-Man #3

Now true indeed she was never going to beat Batman or Spider-Man (Or Superman)
So logically going by popularity:
A Batman game is in order.....I believe Rocksteady are going back to that.
A Spider-Man game......weve had 3 and a 4th is all but guaranteed
A Superman game....I imagine devs are just scared of the IP and balancing such a game.
Then a Wonder Woman game........which is why we are on Wonder Woman.


Hell her solo book beat both X-men and Uncanny X-Men......Wolverines solo book doesnt even chart.
Venoms book didnt even chart.


Theres a reason she is part of the Trinity and it isnt like Martian Manhunter or Aquaman or whoever you think is more fitting for the role.
For fucks sake have you seen New 52 Batmans contingency plan to defeat her........

wonder-woman-doesnt-have-a-kryptonite.jpg


Yes its an empty box.....if Superman aint around and Wonder Woman goes crazy we are fucked.
Demi-God Wonder Woman would probably just resurrect and keep fucking shit up anyway,

People sleep on Wonder Woman.





She has the entire Pantheon of Greek Gods and the mythical Beasts that come with (good and evil)
The New Gods count as her Rogues gallery too....hell one of the best fights ive read in recent memory was Zeus vs Darkseid.
There are no rights disputes and without much competition with DC games she can pull pretty much any Justice League level villain to be the final boss.


Frustrated The Legend Of Zelda GIF by Mashed
 

Zannegan

Member
They should just scrap it. Nobody asked for a Wonder Women game. Its one of those franchises nobody cares for, just like Suicide Squad.

So daft instead of making more Arkham games with Batman (which are popular) they make some random shit no one cares for. Could've had a Batman Beyond or whatever (there's so much content there to cover) but nope WW and trash GaaS lol.
I dunno, a character action game in the vein of Bayonetta or Ninja Gaiden (but nowhere near that hard, obvs.) starring WW and her moveset would be amazing. Alternatively, Indy makes me think that a first person action adventure could work for the character too. Just in terms of mechanics and moveset, there's a lot of places you could go with Wonder Woman.

Will it be an insipid, preachy, AAAA timewaster? Almost certainly. But only almost, so I'd still like to see what they can do.
 
Last edited:

Mister Wolf

Member
Do men even want to play as Wonder Woman? I don't think so and lets be honest that's the demographic for this type of game. This will bomb.

If she is hot like Wonder Woman is supposed to be then I have no qualm. If a bunch of feminists make her look like a man then I'm out.



A hot, tall, and athletic drink of water that's serious and has a temper on her.
 
Last edited:

Larxia

Member
I think Warner might be the company with the worst management ever regarding its franchises. Both in gaming and movies.

Starting with the DCU movies, it was all so terrible how they managed the whole thing.
It started decently with man of steel, but then they started putting out lot of movies that were all from the "same" universe, but also "not really", yeah it's the same universe, it's canon, buuuuut not really because we decided that here it wouldn't affect this particular movie even if it's still in the same universe. It was a MESS.
The worst being "Suicide Squad" and "The Suicide Squad", it's the same characters, the same actors for the most part, but it's a reboot, it's not a sequel, buuut the character still kind of went through the event of the first movies, but not really so we still have the freedom to do what we want. How the hell do you do something this broken?

At some point they even planned to do a Man Of Steel 2 movie which would be a sequel of the first movie, but it wouldn't keep the ending of the first movie canon. W.T.F, really.

Now we have games.
Hey, let's make Arkham Knight and let's start building multiple heroes with various gameplay to see where we could go with this in the future. Later, decide to make Gotham Knights to expand on the idea of the Arkham Knight DLCs.
Guess what, the game will take place in a context very similar to the end of Arkham Knight, BUT, you guessed it, it's not canon to Arkham Knight, it's a different universe. It's kiiind of the same, but it's not that. They always love to do this.
Nah, the canon game will be Suicide Squad, it's canon to arkham, not completely though because you know we need our creative freedom so we'll change some stuff and characters, buut, it's canon don't worry. Oh btw, we messed up the ending, people didn't like it, so we change it in a comic book released after the game.

Oh and outside of DC but still Warner, let's talk about the Multiversus mess.

Release a game that's honestly pretty good on its initial release. It's not groundbreaking, but it's pretty fun, it receive a lot of praise, people enjoy it, ton of players on Steam, a great start for a new popular game. Then Warner messes up by not providing enough support to the game, not enough update, never release the ranked mode that everyone was waiting for, and everyone started leaving the game. When everyone left, they pretend it was only a beta, and they finally release a beta of the ranked mode, too late though, and just before closing the game.

Years later, they re release the game, the gameplay is 10 times worse than it was in the initial release, it's now riddled with pay to win and microtransactions menus everywhere, making the progression tedious and the game feel like a mobile game, and GUESS WHAT, even after 2 years, a first "beta", all the feedback, THEY STILL RELEASED IT A SECOND TIME WITHOUT RANKED MODE. They repeated the EXACT SAME THING that made the game fail the first time. HOW DO YOU NEVER LEARN LIKE THAT.
With the game being much worst than the first version and with the content still not being there, the game died even faster than the first time.

I don't know, there really is something with Warner, it's incredible how they mess up things at such an insane level. I have no faith for any Warner product ever now.
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I actively choose to make female characters in every game that lets me create a character. I can tell you right now the chances of them coming up with a Wonder Woman game that I would want to play are close to zero. Yeah yeah, I'm not a game developer - that's true.

From the DC trinity I always disliked boy scout alien with all the super powers, but I'm in the minority here, pretty sure a good Superman game would be more popular and appreciated than a WW game (mostly because it's know whoever makes it, would fuck up WW someway)


Its the studio that brought us Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War.
They already have the blueprint from a gameplay perspective.
Im guessing its demigod Wonder Woman which is why she can "resurrect" and use the Nemesis system.
Unless you really disliked Shadow of Mordor/War.....this game is in good hands.

I can also tell you it's just not going to happen. That character is as boring as a block of fucking wood.

Said no one who has actually read a Wonder Woman comic.
Theres a reason shes been the most consistent character over the last three maybe even four reboots of the universe.


P.S Its probably actually Batman who has been the most consistent.....I say that only because we had this abominable costume.
WW_Cv41.0.jpg


But she was still an absolute monster
294929._SX1280_QL80_TTD_394x.jpg



Once they really focused on making Wonder Woman a warrior Wonder Woman hasnt been better.
GFgZ69CXgAAWHDX.jpg
 

Kacho

Gold Member
If she is hot like Wonder Woman is supposed to be then I have no qualm. If a bunch of feminists make her look like a man then I'm out.



A hot, tall, and athletic drink of water that's serious and has a temper on her.

Nothing will ever top Bruce Timm DC. Nothing. The vibe was perfect. Every character was handled with care.
 

marquimvfs

Member
Soiler: it won't make it to market.

But here's a better joke:

Superman is flying past Wonder Woman's house, he sees that she's just gotten into bed. He thinks "I'm the fastest person in the world - I can fly in there, have my way with her and fly out in the blink of an eye". Nobody would ever know.
So he does exactly that and flies away smirking to himself feeling relieved.

Wonderman says out loud "Did you just feel a draft?" Invisible man answers "No, but my asshole is hurting!"
Yeah, our whole gen watched that, kind of lame, Hollow Man movie. Lol
 
Last edited:

Mister Wolf

Member
Its the studio that brought us Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War.
They already have the blueprint from a gameplay perspective.
Im guessing its demigod Wonder Woman which is why she can "resurrect" and use the Nemesis system.
Unless you really disliked Shadow of Mordor/War.....this game is in good hands.



Said no one who has actually read a Wonder Woman comic.
Theres a reason shes been the most consistent character over the last three maybe even four reboots of the universe.


P.S Its probably actually Batman who has been the most consistent.....I say that only because we had this abominable costume.
WW_Cv41.0.jpg


But she was still an absolute monster
294929._SX1280_QL80_TTD_394x.jpg



Once they really focused on making Wonder Woman a warrior Wonder Woman hasnt been better.
GFgZ69CXgAAWHDX.jpg

wonderwoman_worion.png


I liked Brian Azzarello's run of the character.
 

ungalo

Member
Its the studio that brought us Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War.
They already have the blueprint from a gameplay perspective.
Im guessing its demigod Wonder Woman which is why she can "resurrect" and use the Nemesis system.
Unless you really disliked Shadow of Mordor/War.....this game is in good hands.
Except Bloomberg is saying they dumped the nemesis system during the development and now it's a generic action/adventure.

And the former leaders of Monolith left when WB cancelled the project before Wonder Woman, and now they're making Black Panther under EA with their new studio.

So yeah, no hope about this shit, they've taken the same path as Warner Bros Montreal and Rocksteady, they're killing all their studios.
 
Last edited:

EN250

Member
Its the studio that brought us Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War.
They already have the blueprint from a gameplay perspective.
Im guessing its demigod Wonder Woman which is why she can "resurrect" and use the Nemesis system.
Unless you really disliked Shadow of Mordor/War.....this game is in good hands.



Said no one who has actually read a Wonder Woman comic.
Theres a reason shes been the most consistent character over the last three maybe even four reboots of the universe.


P.S Its probably actually Batman who has been the most consistent.....I say that only because we had this abominable costume.
WW_Cv41.0.jpg


But she was still an absolute monster
294929._SX1280_QL80_TTD_394x.jpg



Once they really focused on making Wonder Woman a warrior Wonder Woman hasnt been better.
GFgZ69CXgAAWHDX.jpg
The way things are going, game WW probably gonna be some nihilistic snarky bitch with bad attitude who's too *strong to handle (*the feminist version of strong, not literally strong af) who casually hookup with random hoes cause she's all about being a lesbian and don't care about anything else other than that, and also hates half of humanity (you can guess which half) that she saves only "cause there is no one else to do the job" 🤦‍♂️
 

Da1337Vinci

Member
Do men even want to play as Wonder Woman? I don't think so and lets be honest that's the demographic for this type of game. This will bomb.
Only if she is hot. Low chance it being the case with western dev.

But the current production issues might even me beneficial to recalibrate to the current trend.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
"An initial version of Wonder Woman tried reimagining the Nemesis system with the game’s namesake heroine befriending enemies, but that idea has since been tossed out in favor of a more traditional action-adventure game.”

That's the most devastating piece of info in the article. Interest instantly evaporated.
Shoulda had you playing as Starro taking over people while WW is trying to stop you.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
She's an overpowered character. How do you make a game around her? It's the same problem with Superman who is even more absurd power wise.
 

tr1p1ex

Member
the last WW movie was terrible.

And what can they do interesting with WW that is so different than any other super hero?

Ok maybe a few things. But way easier said than done.

What they should do from the beginning is take the cheapest graphics maybe 2d sprites and work out the gameplay hooks to be fun first. How would the lasso work? The truth part of it too. The bracelets? Could you make those work in some fun fashion. etc.

Then to me, if you get enough fun, then you say let's make a big game.

Of course really waht they say is WW. 2 movies. Big audience. DEI friendly. And then ...

Or so it all seems to me.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
I can't fathom how in the hell this ever got greenlit, what gamer wants to play as bloody wonder woman especially considering this would've been made for modern audiences, it has gigantic flop written all over it and the dudes that signed off on it mustve been smoking some serious herbs... How can these people be so out of touch with their market
 

Banjo64

cumsessed
What financially illiterate dolt thinks yes £90m on essentially pre-production for a Wonder-Woman game will result in a profitable venture. I swear these people didn’t leave high school with any GCSEs.
 

JayK47

Member
I can't imagine a good Wonder Woman game being made today. If one was made by Rocksteady like 10 years ago, I would totally want to check it out. I am honestly tired of Batman and Spiderman.
 
Top Bottom