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[FoxMcChief]

We'll talk again when even the big titles from Xbox have underwhelming sales numbers on PS5 and Xbox is going to start talking studio closures.

Pretty sure CoD is still killing it on the ps5. Probably more so than all the exclusives combined.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Is what people are worried about for third party on current Xbox machines going forward into a new gen.

How can Microsoft expect any next gen Xbox console to sell in numbers when everyone knows it’ll have zero exclusives?

Why should third parties support a console that doesn’t sell.

Xbox as a console brand is dead, it has no future and anyone who believes otherwise is deluded, completely deluded.

 

[Topher]

edit: my bad thought that was a reply to me

 

[FoxMcChief]

I won't find games any more/less interesting due to sales numbers or studio closures.

Numbers. They’re what matter most. That and thinking Hellblade 2 looks more interesting than Doom The Dark Ages.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Pretty sure CoD is still killing it on the ps5. Probably more so than all the exclusives combined.

That's the only thing they really got.
But I bought Blops 6 and praised it for having the best gameplay in the franchise. Given that it's the first COD to release under Xbox, I'll give em that.

 

[FoxMcChief]

edit: my bad thought that was a reply to me

It was a silly response that had nothing to do with my post. But numbers.

 

[DeVeAn]

Can Sony allow the Series X controller to work on PS5 native? Do it!

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Numbers. They’re what matter most. That and thinking Hellblade 2 looks more interesting than Doom The Dark Ages.

If low sales kill your favorite studios, it should matter.

Years of 'sales don't matter' is part of the reason it has come to this.

 

[lughnasadh123]

How can Microsoft expect any next gen Xbox console to sell in numbers when everyone knows it’ll have zero exclusives?

Why should third parties support a console that doesn’t sell.

Xbox as a console brand is dead, it has no future and anyone who believes otherwise is deluded, completely deluded.

Unless there's some miracle MS can whip up for the next gen - yep, and I feel bad for everyone who like that hardware ecosystem. I think it's also the next step for moving away from GamePass entirely if they like the numbers they can push out on the other systems.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Can Sony allow the Series X controller to work on PS5 native? Do it!

Sounds like you should just game on pc, where you can play all the games using the series x controller.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Unless there's some miracle MS can whip up for the next gen - yep, and I feel bad for everyone who like that hardware ecosystem. I think it's also the next step for moving away from GamePass entirely if they like the numbers they can push out on the other systems.

Microsoft’s future is PC, PS5, PS6 and Switch 2 with PC being the priority.

If Gamepass does have a long term future then it’s on PC, and that’s where Microsoft will likely push their Xbox users to in future.

 

[Mr Moose]

Can Sony allow the Series X controller to work on PS5 native? Do it!

Or even just the 8BitDo Ultimate PS5 recognises it, the twats.

 

[N0S]

Yay another shoe thread

 

[lughnasadh123]

Microsoft’s future is PC, PS5, PS6 and Switch 2 with PC being the priority.

If Gamepass does have a long term future then it’s on PC, and that’s where Microsoft will likely push their Xbox users to in future.

Even that's going to be a diminished thing as people spread to other platforms. IMO GP was great as a means of attempting to keep people on a platform. If that platform is mostly gone along with your business strategy of selling games, what's even the point of keeping GP even as a means to keep people on a PC? It's not like people are going to drop PC if it's gone and still have a way to just buy the games they'd still have available.

 

[XXL]

Is Gaf in the room with us right now?

 

[DeVeAn]

Sounds like you should just game on pc, where you can play all the games using the series x controller.

So, the 200+ games on PS5 I just dump that buy a PC and rebuild my library instead? Great idea!

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

And that’s why James Sawyer Ford will forever be the better of the two.

Replace Devers with Colt, Jez, adamsapple and FoxMcChief wanting to hold onto the watermelon (Xbox exclusives) so they don’t go anywhere else…

 

[SHA]

Makes sense

PlayStation owners win
PS5 now gets games from studios that PlayStation consoles never got games from before.

Microsoft win
Microsoft’s games are now no longer constrained to PC and Xbox consoles, providing the quality is there, the games will sell

Xbox owners lose
Xbox Series S/X has lost a huge selling point, console exclusives. That small audience of 30 million is unlikely to grow and, as a result, Microsoft’s interest in their own consoles will wane too.

The only issue now is potential is Sony arrogance. With no exclusives anyone with half a brain will tell you a next-gen Xbox is dead on arrival.

The Latest PC Gaming Statistics (2025)

The latest data and statistics related to PC gaming, including the number of gamers, market revenue, and comparisons to other platforms.

explodingtopics.com

They could target those 1.86B PC gamers by doing it the right way even without changing the power narrative, which is the top %1, around 20M, or the sub 1k build which is more than %40 of the total number if they want. And what they did recently won't change the fact that great games are coming from MS Studios.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Sounds like you should just game on pc, where you can play all the games using the series x controller.

Microsoft may allow you to play your digital Xbox library on PC to compensate for abandoning consoles

Sony have no reason to

Going from Xbox to PC makes way more sense than PlayStation to PC.

 

[Jigsaah]

Random thought...if Xbox is green, Playstation is blue, Nintendo is red. What color is PC? Black?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Random thought...if Xbox is green, Playstation is blue, Nintendo is red. What color is PC? Black?

 

[AJUMP23]

This is like a guy saying some obvious stuff and everyone being surprised. My competitor is now selling their product in my store, I get a cut of that.

 

[adamsapple]

And that’s why James Sawyer Ford will forever be the better of the two.

Pick your poison, Topher vs James.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Considering Microsoft and their game studios dei hiring practices. Shu is right, Microsoft became the minority platform.

 

[Oppoi]

Based Phil saving multiple consoles from stagnation single handed.

Based Phil at the moment.

 

[K' Dash]

it is a win for everyone

 

[FoxMcChief]

So, the 200+ games on PS5 I just dump that buy a PC and rebuild my library instead? Great idea!

If you want the best and access to everything, yup. But PC gaming is for serious gamers.

 

[Kacho]

Replace Devers with Colt, Jez, adamsapple and FoxMcChief wanting to hold onto the watermelon (Xbox exclusives) so they don’t go anywhere else…

I bet that dog is great with kids

 

[RickMasters]

Damn man can you make that image any bigger






Also:

You would think they would be happy they won the ‘console warz’….. that the Xbox is filling void left by their own first parties… but nope…. They need YOU to be upset about it! Something is wrong with some of them, fr fr…

 

[TGO]

How many Shu threads do we need? Did he talk to everyone in the game industry and give them each a topic each to spread exclusively?

Shu to Shawn Layden.

Hold my beer

 

[RickMasters]

Microsoft’s future is PC, PS5, PS6 and Switch 2 with PC being the priority.

If Gamepass does have a long term future then it’s on PC, and that’s where Microsoft will likely push their Xbox users to in future.

Gamepass is hardly gonna grow on PC. So if they ditch Xbox they can kiss gamepass goodbye too. They are always gonna need a hardware platform to sell GPU.


But MS are stupid enough to give up 30 million subscribers thinking they are gonna get some kind of foothold on PC and PS. Xbox is gamepass and vice versa. Until I see then put GPU on other consoles ( which is never gonna happen) it would be foolish of them to ditch the box and even more foolish to think they are gonna migrate Xbox owners who’s fingers they have burned. People will just wash their hands of Xbox suck up the loss of money they spent over the last 20 years on the brand and keep it moving with with a nasty taste left in their mouths.

 

[Horseganador]

It's ironic, from wanting to take away all those games by buying studios to depending on PS5 to save their business.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Gamepass is hardly gonna grow on PC. So if they ditch Xbox they can kiss gamepass goodbye too. They are always gonna need a hardware platform to sell GPU.


But MS are stupid enough to give up 30 million subscribers thinking they are gonna get some kind of foothold on PC and PS. Xbox is gamepass and vice versa. Until I see then put GPU on other consoles ( which is never gonna happen) it would be foolish of them to ditch the box and even more foolish to think they are gonna migrate Xbox owners who’s fingers they have burned. People will just wash their hands of Xbox suck up the loss of money they spent over the last 20 years on the brand and keep it moving with with a nasty taste left in their mouths.

If Microsoft are smart, before going on this third party venture they will have carried out a cost/benefit analysis.

The results of this likely have shown that benefits of going third party outweighs the cost (the loss of Xbox and Gamepass).

They’d prefer to have their cake and eat it, but that’s pretty much impossible.

 

[Sooner]

Well, obviously.

 

[DeVeAn]

If you want the best and access to everything, yup. But PC gaming is for serious gamers.

 

[Blank Space Invader]

Someone Said Something of Common Sense: The Thread

And to a larger point that's all it is these days, isn't it? Gaming culture media is just people regurgitating what someone else said. I suppose it's nice from the standpoint of not having to go looking for all the news and blurbs ourselves, but then again the majority of what is reported on a daily basis in the gaming industry just isn't news or worth mentioning.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

If you want the best and access to everything, yup. But PC gaming is for serious gamers.

 

[FoxMcChief]

 

[FoxMcChief]

 

[DeVeAn]

 

[Synastry]

Yup its no coincidence Xbox fans are now Pushing PC gaming.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Next up: Yoshida says the sky is blue

 

[jroc74]

Based Phil saving multiple consoles from stagnation single handed.

I think its more than one.








In the throat.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Random thought...if Xbox is green, Playstation is blue, Nintendo is red. What color is PC? Black?

RGB, since it has all the games.

 

[bender]

edit: my bad thought that was a reply to me

 

[EN250]

Yeah, we know, I'm happy and I'll support the games from MS that I care about, tho it doesn't make sense since they have a system to support as well, but hey! that's on them and the people trapped in the xbox ecosystem

 

[bundylove]

Based Phil saving multiple consoles from stagnation single handed.

Oh yeah? Where is my stalker 2?

 

[Sooner]

How can Microsoft expect any next gen Xbox console to sell in numbers when everyone knows it’ll have zero exclusives?

Why should third parties support a console that doesn’t sell.

Xbox as a console brand is dead, it has no future and anyone who believes otherwise is deluded, completely deluded.

 

[adamsapple]

Oh yeah? Where is my stalker 2?

MS didn't publish STALKER 2. GSC did.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Based Phil saving multiple consoles from stagnation single handed.

Except his own.