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Zenless Zone Zero ༺*|OT|*༻ Gotta Waifu 'Em All ♡(੭´͈ ᐜ `͈)੭♡

Aenima

Member
What are they smoking at hoyo? Deadly Assault sucks all the fun out of this game.
Yup, i hate it. Whatever score i get in my 1st try is what i go with. Fucking hate sweaty content targeted for wales.

KInda fun the new FallOut Guys mode, but they forgot that a mode like that needs a good netcode. While most of the time no one bumps into me, when thers someone that does the hit reaction only hapens like 3 seconds later. I fell of a platform because i dodged the crowd jumped into a platform and with no one in that platform my character was kicked out of the platform like if someone was pushing me. Other than that its a decent mode.

The pressing arrows minigame is all kinds of retarded though, its the type of minigames i find in 1 dev porn games. With all the money Hoyo gets, they can do better than that, comeon.
 
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Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
What are they smoking at hoyo? Deadly Assault sucks all the fun out of this game.
Fuck goddamn butcher, I'm not going to even try. The worst endgame in the game, period.

KInda fun the new FallOut Guys mode, but they forgot that a mode like that needs a good netcode.
They're having problems with servers cuz of the amount of people trying to play. They'll put it for maintenance later (if not already) to try and fix it.

The pressing arrows minigame is all kinds of reaterded though, its the type of minigames i find in 1 dev porn games. With all the money Hoyo gets, they can do better than that, comeon.
Don't like it one bit too.
 
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Pejo

Gold Member
Just started the event. They had everything set up for a Bust-A-Groove minigame and they made it lame ass Simon instead.




I still don't understand why we never got another rhythm game like Bust A Groove.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Well, I guess the whole bangboo dressing event was also a way for them to tease 1.6 characters and a new faction.

Still not gonna waste any of my polys and tapes on them cuz I don't like their design and art - too generic, lame and boring, but I'll get the bangboo cuz it looks cool.

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Spyxos

Gold Member
Pulchra will be indeed an A rank, so thats nice. Not a fan of her evasive assist for a stunner. Her fighting style looks ok, seems mostly melee focused.



Amby looks really good.


And Trigger very ranged and 1 enemy focused?

I really need a stunner, as i only have Ceaser. Probably gonna get Trigger and Pulcha would be a nice bonus.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Pulchra will be indeed an A rank, so that nice. Not a fan of her evasive assist for a stunner. Her fighting stile looks ok, seems mostly melee focused.

Oh, so she uses blades on her guns in close combat? Good! But her Ult is very bad though, hopefully it's not final. She'll be free via some event so no need to pull her (but we probably need to get her W-Engine via W-Engine channel).

Anby looks fuckin' bad ass. Really tempting, but I'm not sure if I'll be pulling her yet. I mean, Yanagi does an awesome job by melting everything already, so why do we need new Anby exactly?

Trigger also looks awesome (sue me:messenger_beaming:) and I'm pretty sure they'll censor all those sweet butt giggles she has. Her combat is much more focused on a single enemy, but she's a lot more mobile and reminds me of Zhu a bit but with some cool twists and actions you can do which Zhu can't like aiming at an enemy with her rifle etc.

It's decided then, I'll for sure be pulling for Trigger and her W-Engine, as for Anby.... it seems like a waste of pulls if you have Yanagi and her W-Engine, but we'll see.
 
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Thick Thighs Save Lives

NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Pulchra will be indeed an A rank, so thats nice. Not a fan of her evasive assist for a stunner. Her fighting style looks ok, seems mostly melee focused.



Amby looks really good.


And Trigger very ranged and 1 enemy focused?

Damn, guess I gonna have to start saving for S tier Anby version once I manage to pull Evelyn.
 
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nnytk

Member
I still don't understand how this game is available on PC in Belgium, but not on PSN. I've contacted the developers, they replied to me that they would forward my request to the devs but that they have no further information.

Same thing with Genshin Impact, it's not available on PS5/PSN but it's available on PC.

Anyone have a clue wth is up with that?
 

Spyxos

Gold Member
I still don't understand how this game is available on PC in Belgium, but not on PSN. I've contacted the developers, they replied to me that they would forward my request to the devs but that they have no further information.

Same thing with Genshin Impact, it's not available on PS5/PSN but it's available on PC.

Anyone have a clue wth is up with that?
Sounds like someone forgot to flip a switch. Are all other games normally available? You could create a new account on Playstation in a different Country, the game is free so you don't need Ps plus. Would of course be a bit cumbersome, but otherwise I can't think of anything else.
 
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Aenima

Member
I still don't understand how this game is available on PC in Belgium, but not on PSN. I've contacted the developers, they replied to me that they would forward my request to the devs but that they have no further information.

Same thing with Genshin Impact, it's not available on PS5/PSN but it's available on PC.

Anyone have a clue wth is up with that?
Just create a PSN account from a diferent country, like the UK, add it to your PS5 and then download the game. Once the game is installed you can switch to your main account and play it there. Im not 100% sure if this works wih F2P games that are always online, but they should cuz i do the same on mobile to play games that are in early access but not available to download in my country, so i just use a VPN to download the game then i can play it fine without VPN needed.

Dunno why the game is not available in your country, maybe has something to do with the gacha system or other kind of gambling laws your country might have against it.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Damn, guess I gonna have to start saving for S tier Anby version once I manage to pull Evelyn.
Wishin' you the best of luck in pulling both:messenger_spock::messenger_relieved:

I still don't understand how this game is available on PC in Belgium, but not on PSN. I've contacted the developers, they replied to me that they would forward my request to the devs but that they have no further information.

Same thing with Genshin Impact, it's not available on PS5/PSN but it's available on PC.

Anyone have a clue wth is up with that?
Is HSR not available too? Well, I guess the only way for you here is to create a new PSN account with a different region where the game is available like Aenima Aenima suggested.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
So what do you guys think about Evelyn gameplay anyways, now that we've had the opportunity to use her a few time in events.

I like her ability to gather small enemies, but that's a very limited-use skill in ZZZ since the little guys tend to die very quickly no matter what.

Her moves come off a little slow and she doesn't have many i-frames for her longer animations. I honestly wasn't really impressed from a gameplay standpoint. Her animations are great though.

Maybe she just needs a shielder to take full advantage of her kit, but she didn't feel that strong either. I'm by no means saying I'm playing her "correctly", just my 2c from the limited few times we got to use her.
 

Spyxos

Gold Member
So what do you guys think about Evelyn gameplay anyways, now that we've had the opportunity to use her a few time in events.

I like her ability to gather small enemies, but that's a very limited-use skill in ZZZ since the little guys tend to die very quickly no matter what.

Her moves come off a little slow and she doesn't have many i-frames for her longer animations. I honestly wasn't really impressed from a gameplay standpoint. Her animations are great though.

Maybe she just needs a shielder to take full advantage of her kit, but she didn't feel that strong either. I'm by no means saying I'm playing her "correctly", just my 2c from the limited few times we got to use her.
I don't like her too much so far. I seem to be the only one, but with all the effects, I don't recognize what's going on at all and these were canon fodder enemies. I don't even want to imagine fighting Butcher with her. And something about the fighting style didn't really click either. Maybe it was also because it was a team of 2 with only Astra and I have little idea how to play them.
 
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Salz01

Member
For those that know more than me, if I won the pull when I had 100 percent chance, and then pull again and win on the 50/50, do I go back to 100 the next time I pull or back to 50/50. Hope this makes sense.
 

Spyxos

Gold Member
For those that know more than me, if I won the pull when I had 100 percent chance, and then pull again and win on the 50/50, do I go back to 100 the next time I pull or back to 50/50. Hope this makes sense.
If I understand the question correctly, you go back to 50/50 after your win.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
For those that know more than me, if I won the pull when I had 100 percent chance, and then pull again and win on the 50/50, do I go back to 100 the next time I pull or back to 50/50. Hope this makes sense.
After you win the "featured" character, you always go back to 50/50, no matter what the previous result was.

I don't like her too much so far. I seem to be the only one, but with all the effects, I don't recognize what's going on at all and these were canon fodder enemies. I don't even want to imagine fighting Butcher with her. And something about the fighting style didn't really click either. Maybe it was also because it was a team of 2 with only Astra and I have little idea how to play them.
Yea, it'll be interesting seeing her vs. a mobile boss. I don't think she's gonna do well in those scenarios without a shielder to prevent interrupt/damage while she's stuck in her longer animations. But I guess we'll see when she releases. Visually she looks really cool, but it certainly is a level of flashiness we haven't seen often in ZZZ. I think Jane is equally flashy in animations, but she is very fast and responsive in comparison.
 

Aenima

Member
So what do you guys think about Evelyn gameplay anyways, now that we've had the opportunity to use her a few time in events.

I like her ability to gather small enemies, but that's a very limited-use skill in ZZZ since the little guys tend to die very quickly no matter what.

Her moves come off a little slow and she doesn't have many i-frames for her longer animations. I honestly wasn't really impressed from a gameplay standpoint. Her animations are great though.

Maybe she just needs a shielder to take full advantage of her kit, but she didn't feel that strong either. I'm by no means saying I'm playing her "correctly", just my 2c from the limited few times we got to use her.
She feels like as strong as Jane Doe. Without spending time to learn how to play with her, sometimes she feels weaker, other times she feels stronger. Sometimes she takes a long time just to kill the small mobs but yesteday i melted a mini boss with just 2 special moves that i triggered back to back so it was a mini boss killed in like 5-10 seconds.

I guess it has to do with her meter, as when you gather 3 charges in her meter and then do a hold attack to spend them all it does alot of damage. When her banner drops i will spend a bit more time looking at her skills to know how she properly works. Dont even know if i will be able to get her cuz for now i only have enough to go for the 50/50 but if i lose it i might not even get her.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
So what do you guys think about Evelyn gameplay anyways, now that we've had the opportunity to use her a few time in events.

I like her ability to gather small enemies, but that's a very limited-use skill in ZZZ since the little guys tend to die very quickly no matter what.

Her moves come off a little slow and she doesn't have many i-frames for her longer animations. I honestly wasn't really impressed from a gameplay standpoint. Her animations are great though.

Maybe she just needs a shielder to take full advantage of her kit, but she didn't feel that strong either. I'm by no means saying I'm playing her "correctly", just my 2c from the limited few times we got to use her.
All her stuff is tied to energy bar and you need to use EX attacks to get those charges after which she melts everything + she also groups enemies really well which S11 simply can't do cuz she's a 1vs1 type of attacker with limited moveset. They sure as shit not telling you well how to play her properly (not to mention you can only play as her with Astra and no one else on the team).

It's not just Evelyn thing, ZZZ simply don't have proper combat tutorials for any of the characters like WuWa does with combos and such to teach you what characters can do and how to play them. You can replay those challenges with Astra as many times as you want to learn how Evelyn plays.

I already have enough polys to get her, but I might lose 50/50 (cuz of course I will), but I sure as shit won't go for her W-Engine cuz I rather save as much polys as I can for Trigger and her W-Engine which of course will be available after Anby just to make me wait a whole month again just like with Evelyn:messenger_weary:
 
Sorry for the double post but

PSA
If you’re having trouble climbing the towers in Simulated Battle there’s a very easy solution:

Miyabi, Astra, Caesar, Avacaboo


Doesn’t matter what enemies are weak to, Miyabi will destroy them with all the buffs she’s getting and between the shield from Caesar and healing from Astra and the boo, you’ll always be at full or nearly full health.

I climbed the new tower to 44 before I went to bed last night, and this morning went back to the old tower and went from , 27 to 40 before I decided to take a break lol


Edit.

Just got to level 50 and got the badge for the limited tower, there’s another one at 100… but ya, I’m likely not even going to try lol. Maybe over time when I’m bored but I’m fine right now lol, another 50 floors for a title huh

The game does inform you at this point that you can earn “demon lord medals” for clearing floors behind this point but whatever.
 
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Spyxos

Gold Member
Sorry for the double post but

PSA
If you’re having trouble climbing the towers in Simulated Battle there’s a very easy solution:

Miyabi, Astra, Caesar, Avacaboo


Doesn’t matter what enemies are weak to, Miyabi will destroy them with all the buffs she’s getting and between the shield from Caesar and healing from Astra and the boo, you’ll always be at full or nearly full health.

I climbed the new tower to 44 before I went to bed last night, and this morning went back to the old tower and went from , 27 to 40 before I decided to take a break lol
Haha, i was thinking about this team, but forgot about Avacaboo.
 

Wonko_C

Member
Sorry for the double post but

PSA
If you’re having trouble climbing the towers in Simulated Battle there’s a very easy solution:

Miyabi, Astra, Caesar, Avacaboo


Doesn’t matter what enemies are weak to, Miyabi will destroy them with all the buffs she’s getting and between the shield from Caesar and healing from Astra and the boo, you’ll always be at full or nearly full health.

I climbed the new tower to 44 before I went to bed last night, and this morning went back to the old tower and went from , 27 to 40 before I decided to take a break lol


Edit.

Just got to level 50 and got the badge for the limited tower, there’s another one at 100… but ya, I’m likely not even going to try lol. Maybe over time when I’m bored but I’m fine right now lol, another 50 floors for a title huh

The game does inform you at this point that you can earn “demon lord medals” for clearing floors behind this point but whatever.
I am still kicking myself for not pulling Caesar.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
Finished the main story of the event. Now I'm stuck doing the extra challenges. Just as in usual ZZZ fashion, they made way too much grind content that took something kinda fun and ruined it. There's way too many of these stupid stages and they're not really that different. I'd have been fine with half the total number. Also the Fall Guys mode is a little excessively grindy. Probably can get all the rewards from just doing your daily double though. I haven't mathed it out, but I assume that's how they'd do it.

Anyways, saw this pointed out earlier:
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I've been wondering why the Hollow data was called a Carrot, this finally explains it. Because (Lady Sunbringer) that made the first bangboos, made them look like rabbits. Pretty idiotically simple now that it's been said, but I never put 2 and 2 together about that before. I thought it was something lost in translation from Chinese.

*edit*

Also, saw the new Vamp girl randomly posted around the arena during the event story, decided to have a peek.
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Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
If i already have Burnice/lucy is there any point of getting Evelyn?
Burnice is not DPS anomaly agent (like Piper, Jane or Yanagi), she's great against groups of regular enemies to melt them faster (which she does), but not good against bosses and fat Elites cuz she basically applies Fire anomaly which deals DMG over time and helps you get disorders faster for your main DPS, but she's not doing tons of DMG by herself cuz it's not her main focus. Evelyn is straight DPS agent with a focus on Crit Rate / DMG just like any other DPS in the game, but she can also group enemies together and deals AOE damage which is a huge help cuz she won't be focusing on just one enemy at a time.

How good Evelyn will be against fat Elites and Bosses is hard to say cuz we can't test it yet, plus she's a bit more complicated than Jane in terms of her combat kit - Jane only needs to accumulate energy for her second energy bar (up to two times, not one) and then activate her spinning move, EX attack is straightforward cuz it's her regular energy bar thing. To get those nodes for Evelyn's second energy bar you need to first accumulate enough energy for it, use EX attack to get the nodes and only then you can activate her strongest attack to deal max DMG and beyond that you also have her Ult.

Jane also has AOE attacks (two of them in fact) and can't group enemies, but despite beaing good at clearing lots of enemies (AOE attacks + Assault triggers), she's also great against fat Elites and Bosses, same can be with Evelyn as well, but again, it's hard to tell right now. Honestly though, idk about your polys and tapes situation right now (not to mention luck), but Evelyn is WAY better than S11 for example, which can only focus on one enemy at a time and her combat kit is pretty basic just like Anby's (A rank stunner) for example. If you're unsure, just wait for her story in a few weeks from now and see if you like her there and before that, play around with fire agents you have in SD and other endgame content to see if you're fine with what you have already.

Do you have Koleda and Lighter btw? It's just that based on leaks, Evelyn plays really well with Lighter...

Update:

New and sick af W-Engines for 1.6 agents:

 
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Spyxos

Gold Member
Burnice is not DPS anomaly agent (like Piper, Jane or Yanagi), she's great against groups of regular enemies to melt them faster (which she does), but not good against bosses and fat Elites cuz she basically applies Fire anomaly which deals DMG over time and helps you get disorders faster for your main DPS, but she's not doing tons of DMG by herself cuz it's not her main focus. Evelyn is straight DPS agent with a focus on Crit Rate / DMG just like any other DPS in the game, but she can also group enemies together and deals AOE damage which is a huge help cuz she won't be focusing on just one enemy at a time.

How good Evelyn will be against fat Elites and Bosses is hard to say cuz we can't test it yet, plus she's a bit more complicated than Jane in terms of her combat kit - Jane only needs to accumulate energy for her second energy bar (up to two times, not one) and then activate her spinning move, EX attack is straightforward cuz it's her regular energy bar thing. To get those nodes for Evelyn's second energy bar you need to first accumulate enough energy for it, use EX attack to get the nodes and only then you can activate her strongest attack to deal max DMG and beyond that you also have her Ult.

Jane also has AOE attacks (two of them in fact) and can't group enemies, but despite beaing good at clearing lots of enemies (AOE attacks + Assault triggers), she's also great against fat Elites and Bosses, same can be with Evelyn as well, but again, it's hard to tell right now. Honestly though, idk about your polys and tapes situation right now (not to mention luck), but Evelyn is WAY better than S11 for example, which can only focus on one enemy at a time and her combat kit is pretty basic just like Anby's (A rank stunner) for example. If you're unsure, just wait for her story in a few weeks from now and see if you like her there and before that, play around with fire agents you have in SD and other endgame content to see if you're fine with what you have already.

Do you have Koleda and Lighter btw? It's just that based on leaks, Evelyn plays really well with Lighter...

Update:

New and sick af W-Engines for 1.6 agents:


Neither Lighter nor Koleda is available. My only stunner is Ceaser. Until now, Burnice and Lucy have been enough. And Evelyn without a proper stunner probably won't be too effective. I really need trigger. I have enough polychromes. But I don't know whether I should get Evelyn+Trigger or SAnby+Trigger. Technically, Yanagi and Haramusa should be enough for Electric cover for now.
 
Burnice may not be a “dps” and yet in the deadly assault mode or other hard modes that require fire I always use her and get the max score.
I pair her up with piper usually (or another anomaly agent) and the disorders pop off like crazy.
I dunno, even the latest deadly assault was a breeze to hit 25k+ with Burnice leading the team
 
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Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Neither Lighter nor Koleda is available.
Well then, you need fire DPS, or you can use Jane (if you have her) if enemies are not resistant to physical damage.

My only stunner is Ceaser. Until now, Burnice and Lucy have been enough. And Evelyn without a proper stunner probably won't be too effective. I really need trigger. I have enough polychromes. But I don't know whether I should get Evelyn+Trigger or SAnby+Trigger. Technically, Yanagi and Haramusa should be enough for Electric cover for now.
Really tough decision to make here in your case, not to mention W-Engines. I've 105 tapes now and by the end of 1.5 I'll probably will be sitting on 140-145+ (if not more) which should be enough to at least get Evelyn and maybe her W-Engine - but I might skip it this time around in favor of Trigger and her W-Engine.

But I don't know whether I should get Evelyn+Trigger or SAnby+Trigger. Technically, Yanagi and Haramusa should be enough for Electric cover for now.
I'm in the same boat as you, except I've Lighter, Koleda and S11. If you have Yanagi and Harumasa already, it really comes down to if you really want S rank Anby or not, cuz beyond that you don't really need her S rank version. Are you aming for W-Engines as well or just characters?

In my case, I could probably get by with S11 if I'll lvl up her skills to the max along with lvl up Lighter and his skills, but Evelyn is just too tempting so Idk:messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:
S rank Anby looks really cool and has great combat gameplay, but I don't really need her cuz I already have a full electric team with a few options for support and defense. I'll 100% will be pulling for Trigger and her W-Engine and already started farming for her skill mats. There is a chance I might pull for S rank Anby's W-Engine and get her later, but I haven't decided yet.
 
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Spyxos

Gold Member
Well then, you need fire DPS, or you can use Jane (if you have her) if enemies are not resistant to physical damage.


Really tough decision to make here in your case, not to mention W-Engines. I've 105 tapes now and by the end of 1.5 I'll probably will be sitting on 140-145+ (if not more) which should be enough to at least get Evelyn and maybe her W-Engine - but I might skip it this time around in favor of Trigger and her W-Engine.


I'm in the same boat as you, except I've Lighter, Koleda and S11. If you have Yanagi and Harumasa already, it really comes down to if you really want S rank Anby or not, cuz beyond that you don't really need her S rank version. Are you aming for W-Engines as well or just characters?

In my case, I could probably get by with S11 if I'll lvl up her skills to the max along with lvl up Lighter and his skills, but Evelyn is just too tempting so Idk:messenger_mr_smith_who_are_you_going_to_call:
S rank Anby looks really cool and has great combat gameplay, but I don't really need her cuz I already have a full electric team with a few options for support and defense. I'll 100% will be pulling for Trigger and her W-Engine and already started farming for her skill mats. There is a chance I might pull for S rank Anby's W-Engine and get her later, but I haven't decided yet.
I have Jane. Unfortunately, I can't afford the W engines, so I'm putting everything on the characters. And who I'm going to get...

Decide Yes Or No GIF by Pudgy Penguins
 
I have Jane. Unfortunately, I can't afford the W engines, so I'm putting everything on the characters. And who I'm going to get...
if you have 11 you can probably get by fine with 11/burnice/lucy; or even 11/burnice/astra, burnice doesn't get her team up bonus in this one, but it shouldn't matter that much.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
I have Jane. Unfortunately, I can't afford the W engines, so I'm putting everything on the characters. And who I'm going to get...

Decide Yes Or No GIF by Pudgy Penguins
Try Jane - Burnice - Lucy (or Astra) team in SD with Fire requirement. I don't have Jane's W-Engine and she melts everything just fine without it, I gave her BPs Electro-Lip Gloss W-Engine though.

No Soldier 11.
Well then, try what I suggested above and if it doesnt work for ya for some reason, you have to pull for Evelyn cuz you need Fire DPS.

Oh, couple more question. Are you completely F2P? What's your situation with pulls in terms of 50/50, 75/25 and 100% at this point in time? Can you also share your ZZZ pull statistic to make a better understanding where you at in terms of pulls and "luck" in exclusive character banners and such? Here - https://zzz.rng.moe It's very easy to do, you just need to check your pull history in all of the channels in the game first.

Update:

New promo code: ZZZ15MOLLO

60 Polys / 6,666 Dennies
 
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