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[Reizo Ryuu]

and it'd be like 33 rainbow tapes

It's 30 tapes exactly, I know because I always had 600 currency on deck before dipping into it to get miyabi's w-engine.

And they have some value, especially anby 11's, grace's and koleda's are very good general purpose w-engines; of course you have to decide for yourself if it's worth using one of them instead of going after the personal w-engines, and of course some a rank's do the job decently enough as well.

Edit:
I see you want it for astra, rina's w-engine isn't actually the best choice, since astra scales off attack, you want soukaku's.

 

[Icymanipulator]

What do you guys think about the value of buying singature S rank Engines from the pity store? I did some quick math, and it'd be like 33 rainbow tapes vs. guaranteed S rank engine.

I'm kinda liking Astra more than I expected, so I'm deciding if I just buy Rina's engine then shuffle the engine from Rina to Astra, or if I take those 33 pulls and just roll for Astra's sig.

I know I can get spooked at random with Rina's, which is what has me hesitating, but I also don't wanna waste the other 40~ pulls on Astra's engine and not get it, and instead get another Neko or S11 engine.

Decisions...

I’d save for pulls, I gave my Astra Sokakus engine, and Rina is just using slice of time, which seems fine

 

[Spyxos]

Congrats, if I had that many pulls left over I'd 100% get her to at least C1, 2 if lucky; you can make due without astra's weapon but astra's C1 is entirely worth it and you'd still have enough to get Evelyn guaranteed.

Thx, I would only go for Mindscapes if I had money to burn. I prefer individual characters. And of course they are good or even very good today. But in a year's time, would you still be using them at all, or would there be someone doing exactly the same thing but twice as good?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

But in a year's time, would you still be using them at all, or would there be someone doing exactly the same thing but twice as good?

supports basically never lose value, which is why lighter/nicole/lucy/rina will forever be useful, astra is the same and like with lighter/rina, the C1 is quite strong and allows them to remain at the top for a long time.

 

[Wonko_C]

I come here again asking for wisdom and guidance_ Who should I pull? I keep saying to myself "waifu over meta" but without meta there is not enough Polys for waifus so a balance must be struck:
I have these guys and this much Polychromes and Films:

And these are my current teams:

I've watched videos on who to pull but the majority focuses on characters I don't have, like Cesar/Burnice/Lighter. Most say Astra is a no-brainer for her buffs and healing, but I really prefer Evelyn design and combat-wise. (from her gameplay snippets at least).

Qingyi is said to be the best stunner and could make my Harumasa team much better (Is her W-Engine really necessary?), and I could use a team who's good at dealing electro.
I'm also completely missing a Fire-based team.

Could any of the characters I haven't leveled yet work with Astra or Evelyn?

Is there a way to know if I am on pity? or does that reset when I pull the Limited Banner's character?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I have these guys and this much Polychromes and Films:

So you have about 250 pulls, not counting currency you get back from pulling a/s ranks.
You also have miyabi, jane and harumasa, three powerful DPS.
Unless Evelyn turns out to be hybrid support like lighter, she's going to need something like yanagi to make a real difference as DPS; and you'd still be missing lighter/koleda to make best use of her.
Astra however you'd be able to use on literally every team you have now, even without duplicates or her w-engine.
Caesar and qingyi are good, but I don't see them coming back for a long time, long enough at least that you can build your resources back up, so with that in mind get astra, and then after a month of using astra from now decide if you want to also get evelyn, you should have enough to get them both unless you turn out to be supremely unlucky.

Is there a way to know if I am on pity? or does that reset when I pull the Limited Banner's character?

the s-rank you pull on the limited banner is 100% chance of being the limited character if you pulled a non-limited one before, after pulling the limited character it goes back to 50%.

 

[Spyxos]

This new Astra story is quite well done.

 

[Aenima]

I come here again asking for wisdom and guidance_ Who should I pull? I keep saying to myself "waifu over meta" but without meta there is not enough Polys for waifus so a balance must be struck:
I have these guys and this much Polychromes and Films:

And these are my current teams:

I've watched videos on who to pull but the majority focuses on characters I don't have, like Cesar/Burnice/Lighter. Most say Astra is a no-brainer for her buffs and healing, but I really prefer Evelyn design and combat-wise. (from her gameplay snippets at least).

Qingyi is said to be the best stunner and could make my Harumasa team much better (Is her W-Engine really necessary?), and I could use a team who's good at dealing electro.
I'm also completely missing a Fire-based team.

Could any of the characters I haven't leveled yet work with Astra or Evelyn?

Is there a way to know if I am on pity? or does that reset when I pull the Limited Banner's character?

Since thers a game mode that require 3 strong teams, your priority should get another DPS to make a team around it. Unless you already do good in that game mode. Evelyn looks strong (The unit from the story mode was way weaker than my Miyabi but dont know what disks or engine the trial unit is using.) Your Miyabi and Jane Doe teams are good, all your other teams are just not that strong.
But you have enough currency to probably pull Astra and Evelyn, both characters would be usefull to you as you are missing Caeser that is my support character of choice. If i was in your place i would pull for Astra and Evelyn and put them both in the same team and then add another DPS or Sub DPS cuz Astra mechanic of switching characters. (Maybe Nekomata or Piper cuz usually enemies that are weak to fire are also weak to Physical, unless your Harumassa is stronger).

 

[Aenima]

This new Astra story is quite well done.

All the stories in ZZZ feel mediocre and juvenile to me. I enjoyed the Tour the Inferno one the most so far, but probably because i could relate with the setting as i used to have a bike. And also cuz i liked Caeser and Burnice personalities more.
What ZZZ does very good is story presentation by using the well drawn images to tell bits of the story in comic book style and top tier animated cut scenes. And the Astra story had indeed some pretty good scenes. But the story itself did nothing to me.

 

[Wonko_C]

So you have about 250 pulls, not counting currency you get back from pulling a/s ranks.
You also have miyabi, jane and harumasa, three powerful DPS.
Unless Evelyn turns out to be hybrid support like lighter, she's going to need something like yanagi to make a real difference as DPS; and you'd still be missing lighter/koleda to make best use of her.
Astra however you'd be able to use on literally every team you have now, even without duplicates or her w-engine.
Caesar and qingyi are good, but I don't see them coming back for a long time, long enough at least that you can build your resources back up, so with that in mind get astra, and then after a month of using astra from now decide if you want to also get evelyn, you should have enough to get them both unless you turn out to be supremely unlucky.

the s-rank you pull on the limited banner is 100% chance of being the limited character if you pulled a non-limited one before, after pulling the limited character it goes back to 50%.

Since thers a game mode that require 3 strong teams, your priority should get another DPS to make a team around it. Unless you already do good in that game mode. Evelyn looks strong (The unit from the story mode was way weaker than my Miyabi but dont know what disks or engine the trial unit is using.) Your Miyabi and Jane Doe teams are good, all your other teams are just not that strong.
But you have enough currency to probably pull Astra and Evelyn, both characters would be usefull to you as you are missing Caeser that is my support character of choice. If i was in your place i would pull for Astra and Evelyn and put them both in the same team and then add another DPS or Sub DPS cuz Astra mechanic of switching characters. (Maybe Nekomata or Piper cuz usually enemies that are weak to fire are also weak to Physical, unless your Harumassa is stronger).

I won the 50/50! and the damage to my polychromes wasn't so bad. More than enough for Evelyn next month with all the polys they're going to give out during events, etc.

I decided to go for it after trying her tutorial. Her buffs are crazy good. And I got Anby, Billy and Corin to M6 in the process.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Read evelyn's passives and multipliers in the story, and it seems she's just pure DPS like Jane and her gimmick is that she's able to charge up for a free chain attack.
I think this might put her above Jane in terms of damage, but I'm not sure. Jane would probably still be stronger against mobs, but I can see evelyn doing better against bosses.

So astra should be the better pull, by quite a bit, if you can only go for one character, but of course, in the end you should pull for whoever you want.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Anybody else find Astra’s gameplay boring? Nicole isnt much better, so im hoping for Zhu Yuan to save the ethereal spot.

She's 90% off-field character and her only purpose is to buff and heal the whole team, you shouldn't look at her like a character you'll be playing a lot like the main DMG dealers or even stunners. When you add her to the team, it'll completely change how you play cuz she's a quickswapper, meaning you need to buff the whole team and then swap characters relatively quickly to use her buffs and then heal when you need to and when you do all that, you'll be playing 90% of time with your main DMG dealers. It's an entirely different way to play the game now, cuz before you mainly used quick assists or defensive assists to swap characters, which allowed you to store more energy and activate EXs more often, whereas with Astra on the team it's almost impossible to gather enough energy for the full EX attack.

What do you guys think about the value of buying singature S rank Engines from the pity store? I did some quick math, and it'd be like 33 rainbow tapes vs. guaranteed S rank engine.

I'm kinda liking Astra more than I expected, so I'm deciding if I just buy Rina's engine then shuffle the engine from Rina to Astra, or if I take those 33 pulls and just roll for Astra's sig.

I know I can get spooked at random with Rina's, which is what has me hesitating, but I also don't wanna waste the other 40~ pulls on Astra's engine and not get it, and instead get another Neko or S11 engine.

Decisions...

I'd say it's mandatory for some characters (Miyabi and Yanagi) to have their W-Engines IF you want to get absolutely everything in the game in terms of achievements, polys and such, cuz they're not only 30+% better, but also have great buffs and effects you can't get in any other way. Idk how they've managed to do it, but Astra's W-Engine is not that great in comparison to the Vault (not to mention Miyabi and Yanagi W-Engines) and it doesn't even have Ether DMG buffs and effects, plus you'll get great healing and buffs even without her W-Engines so it's even less needed cuz it is also not focusing on that part of her kit. So it depends on the character and how good their W-Engine is.

The real question here is should you get her dupes and here I'd say M3 is almost mandatory cuz there's some great buffs there and +2 to all skills is not a joke. But tbh, I wouldn't go for the first 3 of her mindscapes unless you've 200-250 tapes to waste and don't care about Evelyn. Luck is also a huge factor here. Believe it or not, but 1.0 standard S rank W-Engines are almost on the same level as A signatures at max levels so you're not getting a lot here too, so idk if wasting 30 pulls on them is a good idea. There's BP W-Engine with buffs to Crit Rate and Energy regen so I'd say it's good alternative for the Vault if you really don't like it for some reason or don't have it fully maxed, but it'll take you 5 months to overclock it to the max so... yeah, that part of it is not good.

 

[FreeY$L]

She's 90% off-field character and her only purpose is to buff and heal the whole team, you shouldn't look at her like a character you'll be playing a lot like the main DMG dealers or even stunners. When you add her to the team, it'll completely change how you play cuz she's a quickswapper, meaning you need to buff the whole team and then swap characters relatively quickly to use her buffs and then heal when you need to and when you do all that, you'll be playing 90% of time with your main DMG dealers. It's an entirely different way to play the game now, cuz before you mainly used quick assists or defensive assists to swap characters, which allowed you to store more energy and activate EXs more often, whereas with Astra on the team it's almost impossible to gather enough energy for the full EX attack.


I'd say it's mandatory for some characters (Miyabi and Yanagi) to have their W-Engines IF you want to get absolutely everything in the game in terms of achievements, polys and such, cuz they're not only 30+% better, but also have great buffs and effects you can't get in any other way. Idk how they've managed to do it, but Astra's W-Engine is not that great in comparison to the Vault (not to mention Miyabi and Yanagi W-Engines) and it doesn't even have Ether DMG buffs and effects, plus you'll get great healing and buffs even without her W-Engines so it's even less needed cuz it is also not focusing on that part of her kit. So it depends on the character and how good their W-Engine is.

The real question here is should you get her dupes and here I'd say M3 is almost mandatory cuz there's some great buffs there and +2 to all skills is not a joke. But tbh, I wouldn't go for the first 3 of her mindscapes unless you've 200-250 tapes to waste and don't care about Evelyn. Luck is also a huge factor here. Believe it or not, but 1.0 standard S rank W-Engines are almost on the same level as A signatures at max levels so you're not getting a lot here too, so idk if wasting 30 pulls on them is a good idea. There's BP W-Engine with buffs to Crit Rate and Energy regen so I'd say it's good alternative for the Vault if you really don't like it for some reason or don't have it fully maxed, but it'll take you 5 months to overclock it to the max so... yeah, that part of it is not good.

Yeah i notced that i ripped through bosses with Yanagi and Miyabi with Astra on the team.

 

[The Chairman]

Astra Yao new album just released, nice songs

 

[Icymanipulator]

Astra Yao new album just released, nice songs

Is this like actually legit? Huh, might check it out tomorrow

 

[Spyxos]

Is it just me, or was it hard to see what was happening with Evelyn in the fight? Maybe the camera was too close or maybe it was the level, but i had trouble recognizing what was happening.

 

[Pejo]

Wtf out of nowhere, S rank Anby and Pulchra.

 

[Spyxos]

Wtf out of nowhere, S rank Anby and Pulchra.

So it is the same anby with a different skin? Or what am i looking at? Ah nevermind S rank Anby.

 

[The Chairman]

Hmm not feeling it at all. A rank Anby looks better than her S rank version, as for the other character it's an easy skip since i'm not into furry abominations.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Wtf out of nowhere, S rank Anby and Pulchra.

 

[Wonko_C]

Wtf out of nowhere, S rank Anby and Pulchra.

I'm just skipping every banner until Pulchra releases, Not going to risk running out of Polycrhomes when the time comes.

I said that back three months ago, yet here I am already spent my free polys on Astra Yao and will pull Evelyn (besides previously spending over 35000 polys on Miyabi and her weapon alone during last patch, that was unnegotiable). MHY is drying me up so when the time comes they force me to become a whale.

 

[Spyxos]

The new event is far too much talk. Even if the minigames are quite fun.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Wtf out of nowhere, S rank Anby and Pulchra.

We knew about Pulchra for a while, but nothing was 100% confirmed, not to meantion leaks with her gameplay (looks like they're started to keeping their secrets well, or paid leakers to shut them up). But Silver Soldier Anby with dual swords and an attacker? I mean, I've nothing against it cuz she looks way better than Anby is now and the fact that she's an attacker, completely eliminates the need to build Harumasa at some point. But still, WTF is that MHY? Is it some kind of alternate universe shit or what? Also, are we just going to get S rank of all A rank agents now instead of new characters?

P.S. I guess vampire team is 1.7 then or somehtin'. Well, no value was lost.

 

[Aenima]

Hmm not feeling it at all. A rank Anby looks better than her S rank version, as for the other character it's an easy skip since i'm not into furry abominations.

Yeah, same. Really dislike full furry characters. Im in need of stunners but looking at her weapons it looks she will be a mix of melee and ranged, and all ranged characters in the game i end up disliking to use them in battle, maybe when i try her out it changes my mind, for now its a skip. I really like Amby, but her stunner version is still more usefull to me as i have Yanagi for my electric DPS.

ZZZ is really lacking new A rank characters. All these limited S rank banners make the game feel stale as its hard to get new characters to play around and most of the A rank characters are already maxed out with dupes, cuz since the game launched they only released 1 new A rank character. HOYO greed will end up killing this game for F2P players.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Idk, to me her S rank version looks way better and not a slightly different version of Soldier 11. I just can't wrap my head around why the S rank version of her even exists. How are they going to explain it lore and story-wise? It just doesn't make sense without time travel or a different universe. Pulchra is the first S rank physical stunner, but Idk if I'll like her ranged gameplay cuz I don't like Billy'a all that much, but we'll see.

 

[Icymanipulator]

I said that back three months ago, yet here I am already spent my free polys on Astra Yao and will pull Evelyn (besides previously spending over 35000 polys on Miyabi and her weapon alone during last patch, that was unnegotiable). MHY is drying me up so when the time comes they force me to become a whale.

You are vindicated!
I remember someone here talking shit to you after you said you were waiting for her. They made a snotty little post. I’m happy to see you were right, and I hope you get her.

 

[Doom85]

Idk, to me her S rank version looks way better and not a slightly different version of Soldier 11. I just can't wrap my head around why the S rank version of her even exists. How are they going to explain it lore and story-wise? It just doesn't make sense without time travel or a different universe. Pulchra is the first S rank physical stunner, but Idk if I'll like her ranged gameplay cuz I don't like Billy'a all that much, but we'll see.

Honkai Star Rail provides multiple versions of the same character:

Trailblazer: due to having a Stellaron in them, they have gained power from various Aeons
Dan Heng: due to having his past life’s powers awakened
March 7th: due to her taking up sword training on the Luofu
Herta: due to the Herta(s) on the space station being a controlled puppet and not the actual Herta

So they can easily find some story or character arc justification for it, I highly doubt time travel or an alternate universe version will be said justification though.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Honkai Star Rail provides multiple versions of the same character:

Trailblazer: due to having a Stellaron in them, they have gained power from various Aeons
Dan Heng: due to having his past life’s powers awakened
March 7th: due to her taking up sword training on the Luofu
Herta: due to the Herta(s) on the space station being a controlled puppet and not the actual Herta

So they can easily find some story or character arc justification for it,

I didn't know about this. I like HSR a lot, but I only have so much free time and there's so many F2P gachas to play (not to mention that my wallet is not bottomless).

I highly doubt time travel or an alternate universe version will be said justification though.

Well, she looks SO different, that's why I though about it. It'll be interesting to see how they'll explain it and whether they'll stop there or not.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Multiple versions of the same character is nothing new for mihoyo, that's literally how they built honkai; it had like 7characters, kiana, mei, bronya, fu hua, rita, himeko and theresa and they simply got stronger and older during the story so they simply kept getting different versions.

There's no reason to think characters are just stuck in time forever in zzz, I even mentioned before regarding powercreep that they could introduce a new version of miyabi that has full control over the sword if she ever drops too far out of the top.

And with anby I expected this as well, not so soon but it was bound to happen:
1. She the icon character
2. She has a mysterious past
3. She looks identical to 11
4. She trained 11
5. She told Billy that if she went all out nobody could stop her not even billy, and lore wise billy is implied to be very strong and is just holding back now. (I fully expect s rank billy as well).

But this is good, it most likely means they are going ahead with exploring anby's past and connection to obol squad, so 11 can finally be released from trust jail.

 

[Icymanipulator]

Multiple versions of the same character is nothing new for mihoyo, that's literally how they built honkai; it had like 7characters, kiana, mei, bronya, fu hua, rita, himeko and theresa and they simply got stronger and older during the story so they simply kept getting different versions.

There's no reason to think characters are just stuck in time forever in zzz, I even mentioned before regarding powercreep that they could introduce a new version of miyabi that has full control over the sword if she ever drops too far out of the top.

And with anby I expected this as well, not so soon but it was bound to happen:
1. She the icon character
2. She has a mysterious past
3. She looks identical to 11
4. She trained 11
5. She told Billy that if she went all out nobody could stop her not even billy, and lore wise billy is implied to be very strong and is just holding back now. (I fully expect s rank billy as well).

But this is good, it most likely means they are going ahead with exploring anby's past and connection to obol squad, so 11 can finally be released from trust jail.

I hope this continues. Would absolutely love S rank versions of Billy and Nicole.

 

[Pejo]

Anby is one of my favorite characters, I've been jamming her into teams since the beginning of the game despite her not really being the best, just because I like her. I'm a little disappointed that she's just gonna be another attacker which seems the easiest role to powercreep, but hopefully they give her some unique mechanics to keep her relevant for a long time. I'm interested in that they left her faction "unkonwn", so they could be teasing a new faction, teasing her involvement with Obol Squad, or maybe her team buffs won't be tied to faction whatsoever.

ZZZ devs keep dropping characters I personally would put into an anniversary or half-anni patch, willy nilly. In Anby's case, I think we're about to get a lore bomb specifically, but I hope she's really strong too.

Design wise, I don't like it as much as her A rank, but I haven't seen it in motion/3D yet, so I'll hold judgement until then.

Pulchra fans will be happy that she's finally confirmed playable. I have no strong opinion of her either way yet. Kinda funny that she's joining as a "Sons of Calydon" faction member. Looks like that weird lesbian shipping contingent of the HoYo fanbase is about to become unbearable with her + Burnice. Throw the furry stuff in there, and yea...

I like her design but she's crossing the dangerous threshold on the furry scale:

I'd put her at a 3, but you could argue for 2 I suppose. I tend to wade in the shallow waters been 0 and 1.

Still, I like her weapons and am excited to see the gameplay.

 

[Spyxos]

I'm interested in that they left her faction "unkonwn", so they could be teasing a new faction, teasing her involvement with Obol Squad

In chinese version they just say Obol Squad.

 

[Pejo]

In chinese version they just say Obol Squad.

Dammit HoYo, not even 1 day to speculate.

 

[Rikku-X]

Really liked the Astra Yao story, It was a huge step up from the none main stories of the past.



They should add this type of stuff to the game as well.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

In chinese version they just say Obol Squad.

Well, there it is.gif

Still, I like her weapons and am excited to see the gameplay.

Actually, she's already in the game as a black ether double (just like Jane and a few other characters), so I guess we can see some of what she can do, but idk how accurate it'll be to her as a normal agent.

 

[Icymanipulator]

Seeing Silver Anby makes me think I’m going to skip Evelyn. Decisions, decisions…

 

[Agent_4Seven]

If yesterday's character announcement wasn't enough, here's new Electric stunner from Obol Squad

So, here's the thing about Qingyi. She's been out for quite some time (v1.1) and she's a great stunner that can group enemies together too, but the main problem I have with her is that she just isn't mobile enough and likes to be stationary during EX and charged attack with no evasive moves whatsoever, except maybe the last charged move if the timing of enemy attack is right. What I hope for with Trigger is that she'll be more mobile, will have some evasive moves and her EX and charged attacks (if she'll have any) won't put her in one place for some cheap hits from enemies and bosses. Seth can't provide anti-interrupt along with the shield like Caesar does, so it's almost mandatory for a stunner to be more mobile in other teams without Caesar. Here's where I think Koleda is better, but the problem with her is that she's just way too slow with her long hammer swings and all that.

Anyway, hopefully in 1.6 we'll get a chance to try how Trigger plays like Evelyn in 1.5 before they'll launch her during the second phase of the patch, which is supposed to be a new main story chapter since 1.5 is just a filler / special episode patch.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

So unless they are changing things, that means pulchra is a-rank and trigger is s-rank, since pulchra did not get an animated preview, while trigger did.
So that means 1.6 banners are anby and trigger, and then one of them gets pulchra?

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Yeah, I think it makes sense. It's about damn time (to say the least), the last A rank agent was Seth many moons ago. And since the story will be focused on Obol Squad (finally), Pulchra simply has no place there cuz she's an independent mercenary who's operating in the Outer Ring (her joining Sons of Calydon does not surprise me after going through their story). I wonder how good or not she'll be in the end, but Seth is great, even without anti-interrupt.

 

[Pejo]

So unless they are changing things, that means pulchra is a-rank and trigger is s-rank, since pulchra did not get an animated preview, while trigger did.
So that means 1.6 banners are anby and trigger, and then one of them gets pulchra?

Man I would have bet money that Trigger was going to be the A rank. She has A-Rank energy for sure. Simpler design, basically half a face, etc.

Honestly I'm just glad for 2 things, 1 - that we get another A rank, it's been too many S ranks in a row. And 2 - This means that S11's lobby background and tier 4 friendship will be unlocked. Not that I like her or her design that much, but I'm tired of it being in the menu but not unlockable. Like when you see a red dot indicating "do this" that doesn't disappear when it's already done.

 

[cripterion]

Getting really bored with this game. New content pumped out but all done in an hour. Also I don't think I've won a single 50/50 since the game came out, which makes it a chore. I have soldier 11 at M1 and her weapon twice, she still sucks, even against weak to fire mobs, take another meta character that isn't fire and you can purge everything.

Really looking forward to Ananta and Arknights Enfield so I can drop Hoyoverse games alltogether.

Also yeah the lack of A-Rank characters is crazy.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Not a fan of events this time around. The Eous thing is just way too much talking for no good reason but to artificially extend playtime. I mean, I get that they're trying to bring all factions together to compete, but it's just totally not my thing the way they decided to do it, cuz it's not the goddamn meat of the game and there's WAY TOO MUCH dialogues about some stupid bangboo competition. And the second event that got unlocked is just some stupid flash mini-game similar to the one with the ticket, it's just this time around you need to get the score needed.

C'mon, MHY! It's not interesting. I wish this amount of effort was put into an actual story and make it far longer, instead of making us go through all this boring shit just for rewards. And as if that's not bad enough, It is also time gated so you can't complete everything and be done with it to move on to the actual meat of the update which is Ellen's story and special episode. Ugh,...

 

[Spyxos]

If yesterday's character announcement wasn't enough, here's new Electric stunner from Obol Squad

So, here's the thing about Qingyi. She's been out for quite some time (v1.1) and she's a great stunner that can group enemies together too, but the main problem I have with her is that she just isn't mobile enough and likes to be stationary during EX and charged attack with no evasive moves whatsoever, except maybe the last charged move if the timing of enemy attack is right. What I hope for with Trigger is that she'll be more mobile, will have some evasive moves and her EX and charged attacks (if she'll have any) won't put her in one place for some cheap hits from enemies and bosses. Seth can't provide anti-interrupt along with the shield like Caesar does, so it's almost mandatory for a stunner to be more mobile in other teams without Caesar. Here's where I think Koleda is better, but the problem with her is that she's just way too slow with her long hammer swings and all that.

Anyway, hopefully in 1.6 we'll get a chance to try how Trigger plays like Evelyn in 1.5 before they'll launch her during the second phase of the patch, which is supposed to be a new main story chapter since 1.5 is just a filler / special episode patch.

What happened to the characters in this game? They look as if less and less effort is going into their design or they were all planned as A ranks. And which are now being brought out because they haven't finished anything else.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

What happened to the characters in this game? They look as if less and less effort is going into their design or they were all planned as A ranks. And which are now being brought out because they haven't finished anything else.

You don't like Trigger's design? I mean, she's from a military squad so it makes sense for her to look like that. I bet she's some sort of a stealth and reconnaissance oriented Obol member, that's why there's a tactical visor oh her face.

Now those two vampire characters definitely look like someone rejects that never got into the 1.0 from HSR, cuz this game has characters with similar designs and... well, WuWa has too.

 

[Spyxos]

You don't like Trigger's design? I mean, she's from a military squad so it makes sense for her to look like that. I bet she's some sort of a stealth and reconnaissance oriented Obol member, that's why there's a tactical visor oh her face.

Now those two vampire characters definitely look like someone rejects that never got into the 1.0 from HSR, cuz this game has characters with similar designs and... well, WuWa has too.

She looks like an background npc. Yanagi's design wasn't great either, but at least you could see the face.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Well, I guess I'm the only one who likes her design... ? Anyone?...

Anyway, started playing Ellen's story and it's so hilarious and fun, I like it A LOT!

The bad thing about it tough is that it'll end soon and I want more

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Trigger is a sniper, the visor she wears is to protect her eyes from melting out of her skull.
Her eyes were infected in a hollow and transformes into etheric material, this actually gave her some kind of super sniper vision where she can even see weak spots.
But since pure ether material can't exist outside of a hollow, her eyes will just deteriorate over time; the visor stops that.

Apparently she does take it off in combat (in a hollow) though.

 

[Pejo]

Trigger is a sniper, the visor she wears is to protect her eyes from melting out of her skull.
Her eyes were infected in a hollow and transformes into etheric material, this actually gave her some kind of super sniper vision where she can even see weak spots.
But since pure ether material can't exist outside of a hollow, her eyes will just deteriorate over time; the visor stops that.

Apparently she does take it off in combat (in a hollow) though.

Interesting lore at least, even if I don't care for her design much. I'll hand them that.

I hope outside of the hollow she's not gonna have those LCD eyes on the visor like Astro Bot, for instance.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Trigger is a sniper, the visor she wears is to protect her eyes from melting out of her skull.
Her eyes were infected in a hollow and transformes into etheric material, this actually gave her some kind of super sniper vision where she can even see weak spots.
But since pure ether material can't exist outside of a hollow, her eyes will just deteriorate over time; the visor stops that.

Apparently she does take it off in combat (in a hollow) though.

I wonder how she'll be in terms of gameplay given all that. I mean, sniper rifles are slow so I have to assume that she has some kind of close range weapon she uses and then unloads a sniper shot to inflict lots of daze. Great lore though

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I wonder how she'll be in terms of gameplay given all that. I mean, sniper rifles are slow so I have to assume that she has some kind of close range weapon she uses and then unloads a sniper shot to inflict lots of daze. Great lore though

Her weapon seems to be a sniper rifle with a big ass blade on it, so she probably plays like a reverse harumasa; melee regular attacks, ranged ex/charges.
I can see her ultimate being an animation were she takes off the visor, close up of her eyes, and fires the rifle.