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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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bananafactory said:
This is what I was asking a couple pages back.

Like, how do you find someone to step into this and take over, without resetting the entire thing?

It's going to be extremely difficult for them to build out their own vision when so much of Zack's is already put in place
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You ask people to come in and pitch you shit. Isn't that how the Russos got the job?

vordhosbn said:
Watchmen has 65% on RT and Avengers: AOU has 75%..just why should I care about rotten tomatoes score again?
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You shouldn't but it seems you do, so I don't know, you tell us why...
 
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G-Fex said:
Thread just seems on repeat
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Nah. Now we debate the best pull quote for the Blu Ray release next month.

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SmackAttack said:
Are you familiar with the material of the character though? Perhaps that added to your enjoyment of it. I went into that film seriously knowing next to nothing about GL.
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Yup. I actually like Green Lantern. Keep in mind I also liked the first 2 Fantastic 4 movies also. I fully acknowledge I like bad movies sometimes. lol
 
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Does this movie have any humor? I always loved Superman and Batman's conversation. When GL found out Batman is just a guy dressed as a bat. I always enjoyed DC's humor more then Marvel's TBH
 
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Prototype Viktor

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duckroll said:
Huh, interesting. I had no idea the script was out there. I remember seeing some storyboards or something. Wasn't Tower of Babel Waid though?
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Aren't most scripts getable simply because the writers guild let people get em and they usually get out



Sad BvS won't get as low as Pearl Harbour
 
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Downhome said:
I can't even imagine how it feels to be all of the actors attached to the DC "Universe", thinking that they had their future pretty much set in stone for the foreseeable future, especially some of the lesser known folks.

I can't believe they trusted Zach Snyder to lead this revival. What in the world were they thinking? How did Christopher Nolan not have enough pull to let them know that wouldn't work? None of this makes sense to me at all.

I can't imagine they go forward with their plans if this film does much lower than the estimates. I hope it crashes and burns so badly that they have no choice but to burn it all to the ground and start fresh. Hopefully this will be a wakeup call to SOMEONE about who they should trust with such a huge project. Whoever set all of this up in the first place should be fired. Which idiot was it exactly?

If this flops, even if just critically, it could be one of the biggest disasters in film history. Not simply because of what this film makes, or doesn't make, at the box office, but how it could affect so many future projects.

I feel badly for Suicide Squad and all of those involved as well. That one looks like a quality film, and I hate that it is attached to this apparent mess.
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This is absolutely INSANE levels of hyperbole.
 
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Bobby Roberts said:
Can you imagine if they get George Miller and just have him make the Tower of Babel adaptation he almost shot in 2009?

Like Man of Steel & Batman v Superman never happened?
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The script would have needed a rewrite. Some really clumsy Bruce/Talia flashbacks, for one thing.

It wasn't bad, though, and I absolutely love that it just ditched the quasi-realistic world of the MCU and DCCU for one where costumed and powered superheroes are already a known quantity. Now that would have made for a much more interesting "difference in tone" than what we're getting.
 
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DrForester said:
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I've actually been surprised that DC didn't snatch up Smith after Avengers 1. Given WB/DC playing catch up, them saying "Well, Avengers was done by a comic geek, lets get one to do our films too!". Not saying Smith would be good, it just seems like the knee-jerk reaction that would have been made.
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Kevin Smith isn't a good filmmaker.
 
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Anung said:
I've still not seen Sucker Punch. I almost want to just to see if its as bad as people say.
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It's horrible. I was a huge fan of Snyder after 300 and Watchmen (I said this before but I was a teenager when both of those movies came out and I haven't seen them since, so I have no idea if they hold up) and Sucker Punch is what made me realize that he should never be allowed to write anything cause he has no idea what he's doing. Seeing his quotes about various stories in recent years have made it obvious that he's just not a very intelligent guy and Sucker Punch was a movie by a guy who's not very smart, or at least not much of a creative thinker, who was not capable of telling the story he was trying to put out there.
 
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Alandrus Sun

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Ahasverus said:
... yes
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bananafactory said:
Basically this is what happened
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Dash_Riprock said:
Considering how many times they did that with the Wachowskis and Nolan...
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LOL, how?

I find this so goddamn AMAZING. In an age of complaints of "clueless" studio executives constantly meddling with the high art minds of directors and their franchises how does an entire film universe franchise get planned by one man (who is a seeming comic nerd) with no oversight? And, for then films to turn out to be garbage. It's mind-boggling.
 
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Netherscourge said:
They should have done a Wonder Woman movie first, followed by a Ben Affleck solo Batman movie to reintroduce him.

Then you follow up with a new Superman movie that will connect the dots to the Justice League.

Batman vs. Superman is a dumb idea all around. There shouldn't be any hostility or tension between those two. It makes no sense and never has. It's nothing but Comic Book Porn and it doesn't help promote the DCU at all.
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Agreed. I've had this same problem with the premise of this movie since I've heard of its existence. TBH I have the same concerns with Civil War, but at least the trailers haven't been shit.
 
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Alandrus Sun said:
LOL, how?

I find this so goddamn AMAZING. In an age of complaints of "clueless" studio executives constantly meddling with the high art minds of directors and their franchises how does an entire film universe franchise get planned by one man (who is a seeming comic nerd) with no oversight? And, for then films to turn out to be garbage. It's mind-boggling.
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The rule at WB seems to be that you make ONE hit film and you get Carte Blanche until you make another one.

Sometimes it works (Nolan) sometimes it doesn't (Wachowskis, Snyder)

WB is basically following the Sunk Cost fallacy to the letter:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment
 
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Blade30 said:
Found this:


  • "WB execs are shitting their pants. If [Batman V Superman] makes less than a billion, [Zack] Snyder is out and Justice League will be delayed 8 months."

  • "Chris Nolan is being courted as a producer and George Miller, David Yates, Louis Letterier, and Vincenzo Natali are all being courted to take over Justice League."


    [*] "Wonder Woman is undergoing major rewrites to be more of a standalone film. Aquaman, Cyborg, and Green Lantern Corps. are all on the chopping block."

  • "Investors are planning a major takeover if [Batman V Superman] flops and have plans to install a board that will order the universe to be rebooted."
http://www.moovienews.com/20160323-major-shakeup-for-warnerbros-and-dc.html


anyone heard of this site?
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Sesha said:
Before long the JL roster will be reduced to just Bats, Supes, Diana and Flash.
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I hate to say it but if this is true I fucking called it.
 
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jmood88 said:
It's horrible. I was a huge fan of Snyder after 300 and Watchmen (I said this before but I was a teenager when both of those movies came out and I haven't seen them since, so I have no idea if they hold up) and Sucker Punch is what made me realize that he should never be allowed to write anything cause he has no idea what he's doing. Seeing his quotes about various stories in recent years have made it obvious that he's just not a very intelligent guy and Sucker Punch was a movie by a guy who's not very smart, or at least not much of a creative thinker, who was not capable of telling the story he was trying to put out there.
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I rewatched Watchmen recently. I think it holds up well. I still think it's a really solid adaptation with an almost perfect cast (Ozzy was bad).

Fewr said:
The Waterworld of our time?
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I liked Waterworld.
 
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PsychoRaven said:
See I actually liked Green Lantern. Was it bad? Yea but it was watchable. Also Reynolds did great with what he had to work with which wasn't much. lol
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I hated Green Lantern but I was excited to see what they did with a sequel, for reasons I still can't explain.
 
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Alandrus Sun said:
LOL, how?

I find this so goddamn AMAZING. In an age of complaints of "clueless" studio executives constantly meddling with the high art minds of directors and their franchises how does an entire film universe franchise get planned by one man (who is a seeming comic nerd) with no oversight? And, for then films to turn out to be garbage. It's mind-boggling.
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I found this exclusive video of Zack Snyder being offered the job. It should illustrate how he got the position.

http://youtu.be/HYJCHoEDNgs
 
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Tobor said:
After TFA, sign me up. It would be a downgrade for him, though.

Honestly though, they need a Kevin Feige. A strong producer who cares about the materials and the characters and runs the show.

Someone whose first order of business is showing Snyder the door.
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they need to pull up to paul dini's house with a dumptruck full of money, damn it.
 
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Dash_Riprock said:
The rule at WB seems to be that you make ONE hit film and yet Carte Blanche until you make another one.

Sometimes it works (Nolan) sometimes it doesn't (Wachowskis, Snyder)

WB is basically following the Sunk Cost fallacy to the letter:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment
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Well, BvS is unlikely to be a bomb.

Snyder isn't exactly in the Wachowski's shoes, who deliver movies that are both critically savaged AND lose hundreds of millions of dollars.

Snyder will be OK,
 
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Einchy

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DrForester said:
I rewatched Watchmen recently. I think it holds up well. I still think it's a really solid adaptation with an almost perfect cast (Ozzy was bad).
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I fucking love Watchmen but I also agree that Ozzy was miscast. Fassbender would have been perfect if he was a big star back then.

Movie's ending > Comic's ending
 
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ElBoxyBrown

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A Justice League movie with just Batman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, and Aquaman directed by Ben or Nolan would be pretty interesting. We don't need Superman and Flash.
 
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