ethomaz
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IP you used to access the site? Sure.
If you use VPN, Proxy, etc that will give them the IP of the VPN or proxy server but not your real IP.
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If you use VPN, Proxy, etc that will give them the IP of the VPN or proxy server but not your real IP.
sonomamashine
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My nig *caugh* man !
Let me tease you with that non existant 32bit game
Rightisright
Banned
That kinda went right over head didn't it?
Proelite
Member
Any insiders that gives too much info such as die size, launch price, and launch lineup are fake. They won't have access to any of that information, let alone for both companies.
Even spec wise, studios are given SDKs on a need to know basis. One set of specs might have multipliers, the other might have only clocks. If one wanted, you can piece together a complete picture of the consoles, but no one has time to do this.
On the Github leak, that's much more information in there than any materials that we have received in the past year. The Oberon numbers matches the 2019 PS5, which has been upgraded and repurposed as a Lockhart competitor. The final clocks probably won't end up 2GHz. Even at 1.8ghz the perf should be much better than Lockharts. Unlike people on the internet, Sony takes the threat of being undercut by possibly $200 is a serious threat. They're big enough to respond to all threats.
What the leaks don't have are the numbers for the 2020 PS5 that was planned at the beginning of 2018. It's a riskier move since the targets for the 2020 PS5 is much much higher than the 2019 PS5. There is a chance it might make Fall 2020. That's why Sony has being fairly quiet.
If 2020 PS5 makes 2020, the perf would be
Lockart <<< PS5 (medium) << Xsx < PS5 (large)
Even spec wise, studios are given SDKs on a need to know basis. One set of specs might have multipliers, the other might have only clocks. If one wanted, you can piece together a complete picture of the consoles, but no one has time to do this.
On the Github leak, that's much more information in there than any materials that we have received in the past year. The Oberon numbers matches the 2019 PS5, which has been upgraded and repurposed as a Lockhart competitor. The final clocks probably won't end up 2GHz. Even at 1.8ghz the perf should be much better than Lockharts. Unlike people on the internet, Sony takes the threat of being undercut by possibly $200 is a serious threat. They're big enough to respond to all threats.
What the leaks don't have are the numbers for the 2020 PS5 that was planned at the beginning of 2018. It's a riskier move since the targets for the 2020 PS5 is much much higher than the 2019 PS5. There is a chance it might make Fall 2020. That's why Sony has being fairly quiet.
If 2020 PS5 makes 2020, the perf would be
Lockart <<< PS5 (medium) << Xsx < PS5 (large)
Nickolaidas
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Urban Dictionary: troll
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument
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Rightisright
Banned
You understand all this means is that any Xbox exclusives will also be put out Xbox One S and X as well as series x? Not sure this means anything negative for MS.
demigod
Member
Yo
XcloudTimdog
if you're a real "insider", what's MS got cooking for February, any events?
XcloudTimdog
if you're a real "insider", what's MS got cooking for February, any events?
policestationx
Banned
So many immature posts here. Brigading to force Mod to ban a user, that's too childish lol 
Gudji
Member
So many immature posts here. Brigading to force Mod to ban a user, that's too childish lol
Why would anyone want TimDog banned? He's great fun...
The Mad Draklor
Member
I see more posts asking the mods to investigate than to ban a user without due process.So many immature posts here. Brigading to force Mod to ban a user, that's too childish lol
TLZ
Banned
Well... Then they'll be saving me money this holiday. I'll buy in 2 years when they're ready and it'll be cheaper then.
Ar¢tos
Member
It means for 2 years you will have nextgen games limited by the hairdryer CPU of the base X1, that isn't exactly positive.
ABrokenToy
Member
Hey, it's cool to speculate, but why not just wait to see what the games look like, no?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
TLZ
Banned
It looked more like a Proelite alt account.
hubertuss03
Neo Member
Falcom?
Very doubt. They release their games worldwide, have financial stability and they have fanbase on PlayStation. They even not release games on Xbox (beside Ys Origins).
But i think like you, that if they acquire someone in Japan, it will be some small, niche studio.
TLZ
Banned
Was your ass vetted?
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Well the fact you're picking that out from the general message of the post at least indicate you're in the Sony camp. Or maybe you feel party resembling the comment, dunno. Regardless what's the point in naming names, it'd just create unnecessary drama. A person can usually tell themselves if they're starting to fanboy a bit too hard, and either pull back or go full tilt. When the latter happens, well, usually everyone either takes a funny quip at 'em or directs some attention to the individual. It's happened with a couple of folks in both the MS and Sony camps throughout the thread.
There's some fanboying on both sides but that's also par for the course with new next-gen systems. Personally I just hope everyone keeps a cool head regardless where the chips fall (though it's slightly amusing seeing meltdowns when those happen, I must admit. Kind of a guilty pleasure).
As for people pretending to be insiders, they're usually very obvious to spot because after an initial batch of posts they start acting like fanboys or start posting completely ridiculous "rumors" pulled from the stratosphere. Especially the ones who barely have any posts in topics other than next-gen system rumors, and really low post counts in general on relatively new accounts. They don't bother me personally tho because of how transparent they end up being.
My nig *caugh* man !
Let me tease you with that non existant 32bit game
You kid, but this actually reminds me of a cancelled Atari Jaguar game called Black Ice White Noise (cool ass title IMO). Shame it got cancelled, looked pretty good for a 32-bit open-world 3rd-person game:
![black_ice_white_noise_[no_publisher].png](http://www.atarimania.com/jaguar/screens/black_ice_white_noise_[no_publisher].png)
![black_ice_white_noise_[no_publisher]_4.png](http://www.atarimania.com/jaguar/screens/black_ice_white_noise_[no_publisher]_4.png)
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Insane Metal
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Rightisright
Banned
Why would they be limited? Are PC games limited because they also have to do console games? No.
Microsoft is just supporting their older console buyers. Dont forget that these MS games will also be coded for high end Pcs as well, which will again mean that the XSX versions wont be gimped in any way.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
#SonyToo
TLZ
Banned
Joking about your literal ass telling tales my friend
Wait it all makes sense now. Luigi is an Xbox fanboy! He's been wearing green all along!
Someone find her quick and tell her he's on neogaf.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Yep, Falcom even release their games on GOG, so I much rather they stay multiplatform.
Tell your ass to stop being so humble.
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Rossco EZ
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can you share any info on what lines up? or anything else?
bitbydeath
Member
I asked that earlier which Tim kindly responded.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
You got it. Sony will blew your mind wait . True MS Also the Virtual ram concept is awesome. Of course they have. What both companies are communicating is obvious, Jim Ryan just made some comments about the ps5. But whatever I guess MS’ entire message being about «power, power, power» means...
AGRacing
Member
Didn’t Microsoft say titles for the first 2 years would run on One X and Series X? Doesn’t that mean there’s no such thing as a “next gen only” title coming out for the Series X?
I think you’re right.
kretos
Banned
why no B/C for Vita come one Sony
and Legendz LOL sounds like a piece of shit multiplayer game
Rossco EZ
Member
thanks i missed thatI asked that earlier which Tim kindly responded.
Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD
You got it. Sony will blew your mind wait . True MS Also the Virtual ram concept is awesome. Of course they have. What both companies are communicating is obvious, Jim Ryan just made some comments about the ps5. But whatever I guess MS’ entire message being about «power, power, power» means...www.neogaf.com
DJ12
Member
Their titles they cannot tell third party Devs what to do.
DJ12
Member
Yet his Twitter persona doesn't seem at all annoyed and is still refering to the rumoured Xbox advantage.
Think they got upset when it was basically ignored and roused the rabble to draw attention to it.
Of course if the mods verify the account then wow, but I'm definitely calling it a fake.
BattleScar
Member
You act like those $1200-1500 GPUs are actually worth that much money.Next-gen have beefier GPU's in the APU than the best desktop GPU's available today, which costs about $1200-1500.
Double facepalm.jpg isn't enough for so much fail
JLB
Banned
many of the things there make no sense, like says ps5 will be on par with xsx and then it says is 10tf, and also says. that price of xsx is 599. Weir that an insider have real data of both sides.
Rossco EZ
Member
i was thinking the same thing, i thought his reaction would have been different but if it does actually add up to other things hes seen then maybe he cant deny what the other 'insider' said. hopefully we get some news soon or some evidence that it matches up. i find myself looking more forward to this gen than any other!
Shin
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My previous post pretty much sums up my reply to the one I'm quoting now.
joe_zazen
Member
if
- Git hub leak is right and sony has designed a 36 CU gpu based around the same tech found in the 5700 series cards,
- the industry types who have said ps5 and xsx are equal, or so close that you cant tell the difference are also right
- Xsx is 12TF with a 405mm^2 apu
sure if my assumptions are wrong, then it collapses. But if they are right....
sonomamashine
Member
The assumption of Ps5 being 11+TF are not based on 36cu's.
DJ12
Member
So it's someone else you know then. I don't blame you guys is getting pretty boring now with all this waiting and 'insiders' fake and real throwing dates around raising our hopes of actual info lol
Role on the reveals.
For future reference to make it more believable you need to commit more and react the same everywhere you guys post.
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Yes, you're missing all the practical logic in my post.
If you assume something false as true, anything can be seen as believable. Especially when you build conjecture upon other conjecture
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Insane Metal
Member
PS5 is not 36CUs. Move on.
On top of that, I'll bet you a Xbox xsx or ps5 that the Sony GPU is less than 72(dual) CUs? That's how confident I am. How confident are you in your flawed logic and impractical false assumptions?
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Falcom never really did. XSeed did. Now that NISA publishes Falcom games, you won't be seeing their games on GOG anymore.
Bryank75
Banned
If you were to guess, what range would you say it's in?
Insane Metal
Member
I have no info on this but I posted several times that I expect anywhere from 44 to 52CUs. 36 won't make it unless we're talking of a weak machine. Which we definetely aren't.
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joe_zazen
Member
I fully admit that any of my assumptions might be wrong, but they are the most solid information we have. I am just reconciling them.
I think that is ok in speculation thread.
edit: how would you reconcile them?
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XcloudTimdog
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April , date being discussed not setYo
XcloudTimdog
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So since things changed, do you think if ps5 more powerful. Like 13.5 to 12? Can MS cut the gap with VRS?
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