kiphalfton
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Are you all that excited about a sequential number?
Never heard of Steam or gog?Consoles still have physical media. This will always make them superior to PCs. This is why I would never get into PC gaming because you can't go to Walmart and buy a game on physical media. I won't buy non-physical media that the developer can just delete and leave me with nothing.
If I get a PS5, I don't even plan on connecting it to the internet. This is not a joke. I do NOT like the idea of consoles that are connected online since I do not have an interest in multiplayer games.
It can play every PC game and most console games released in the past 40 years.
Emulated or not, they can be played. You still don't have to wait for a re-release or re-buy them.Most games from the Win95 era and prior no longer work on PC unless emulated so I wouldn’t say that is exactly true.
Consoles still have physical media. This will always make them superior to PCs. This is why I would never get into PC gaming because you can't go to Walmart and buy a game on physical media. I won't buy non-physical media that the developer can just delete and leave me with nothing.
If I get a PS5, I don't even plan on connecting it to the internet. This is not a joke. I do NOT like the idea of consoles that are connected online since I do not have an interest in multiplayer games.
You pay more upfront but in the long run you get better value. You get cheaper games and an almost unlimited backwards compatibility. Also a lot of homebrew emulators and mods.As I've said in many other threads...
You have to buy each component of a PC build and every producer needs to make money from you as an individual customer. This means you pay way more per part than Sony or Nintendo do.....
So basically you are getting terrible value on hardware when you buy. A PC.
PCs are not infinitely upgradable, many times almost everything has to go... Like going to PCIE4.
Sony and Nintendo get to take advantage of economies of scale and have a duty to provide high quality content.... PC has nobody to curate and provide.
Physical media is alive and thriving in Sweden at least. Selling used games on auction sites is super easy and very popular. Of course gamestop is bankrupt when they try to sell used games at the same price as new games.Physical media isn't even a real thing anymore. The game on the disc is not the finished game more often than not, even at release, and the game runs off the hard drive. I tried to hold onto physical media too, but the studios and hardware makers worked to destroy it this gen... it's why GameStop is nearly bankrupt as a company. Soon enough 80-90% of sales will be digital and the game section at Walmart will look like the CD section. And those games will have keys, not even the real disc. It's going to happen.
Depends what PC gamers you're talking about....You pay more upfront but in the long run you get better value. You get cheaper games and an almost unlimited backwards compatibility. Also a lot of homebrew emulators and mods.
Plus, when it comes to multiplatform games, console users always get the average experience. PC users get the best experience. You get what you paid for.
Physical media is alive and thriving in Sweden at least. Selling used games on auction sites is super easy and very popular. Of course gamestop is bankrupt when they try to sell used games at the same price as new games.
I buy new games at release and if I don't like it, I sell it at minimal loss.![]()
Depends what PC gamers you're talking about....
Only a small percentage play anything significantly better than consoles.
Well, almost all games i played this gen were 60fps for me. So that automatically makes them a better experience.Depends what PC gamers you're talking about....
Only a small percentage play anything significantly better than consoles.
And the experience is quickly ruined if you're game is filled with people using aimbot and other mods like Destiny 2 is now full of....
So I don't really agree with any of that.
I think PC shines when it comes to strategy games and mmorpgs. As well as keeping old games accessible...
Even now, my favorite pc games are well over 15 years old.
Yes, I know what a patch isOh the discs exist. They’re just not actually the game. When you buy say RDR2 on disc and you pop it in day one and get a 50 GB patch, then it’s a digital game with a physical key, like dongles in old productivity software.
I was responding to the guy because he said he doesn’t plan on hooking up the PS5 to the internet. Every game that gets released these days is meant to be hooked to the internet.
GOG releases are like that. There is no DRM so you can easily backup your collection. You can even copy paste the installed files if you want and the games will still play.Yes, I know what a patch is
I'm guessing that guy you quoted is like me - after the patch is downloaded, I won't use any online features for the game. And should be able to play the game just fine offline, forever.
As I've said in many other threads...
You have to buy each component of a PC build and every producer needs to make money from you as an individual customer. This means you pay way more per part than Sony or Nintendo do.....
So basically you are getting terrible value on hardware when you buy. A PC.
PCs are not infinitely upgradable, many times almost everything has to go... Like going to PCIE4.
Sony and Nintendo get to take advantage of economies of scale and have a duty to provide high quality content.... PC has nobody to curate and provide.
That's great! Still 100% not interesting to me since there's no physical media.GOG releases are like that. There is no DRM so you can easily backup your collection. You can even copy paste the installed files if you want and the games will still play.
I spent less than 1.200 this gen for PC hardware and i still had a better experience than someone who bought both a base and a pro/X console.The differential is about $2500.00
Realistically.
Ok? How about for the baseline of next gen as the title of the thread suggests.I spent less than 1.200 this gen for PC hardware and i still had a better experience than someone who bought both a base and a pro/X console.
Im waiting for the consoles to be released first. And the new Nvidia cards ofc. Pretty sure a mid range 3060 will beat both consoles.Ok? How about for the baseline of next gen as the title of the thread suggests.
Also nobody paid 1200 for a pro or an X at retail. So?
Sure but 1000 is still less then 1200, so I seem to be missing your point.Im waiting for the consoles to be released first. And the new Nvidia cards ofc. Pretty sure a mid range 3060 will beat both consoles.
I was talking about people who had a base console and upgrated to a pro. They were close to paying 1000 this gen, didnt they?
The ability to tailor ones gaming experience to ones liking and to steer clear of the yucky 30fps hardcap and half assed remasters, is differentiation enough to me. Then we got onto the whole emulation scene, just one example...all 6,000 Ps2 games at your fingertips. Thanks to beefy cpu's you can now emulate pixel perfectly at 100% speed in software on 6-8 cores. I need not go on.
PC GAMING IS OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR in 999/1000 ways. Consoles are all about compromises.
For me I care more about exclusive games themselves. So I usually end up with all platforms. But If I had to be thrifty, pc it would be all day long.
This is not close to being true for PS2 emulation. You have to configure for every game on pcsx2 and there still plenty of glitches. Playing PS2 games on native hardware is far superior. Most emulation beyond the 16 bit era (not including handhelds) are not good with the exception of Dolphin (cube/wii) and Dreamcast & PS1 emulation.
You pay more upfront but in the long run you get better value. You get cheaper games and an almost unlimited backwards compatibility. Also a lot of homebrew emulators and mods.
Plus, when it comes to multiplatform games, console users always get the average experience. PC users get the best experience. You get what you paid for.
This is not close to being true for PS2 emulation. You have to configure for every game on pcsx2 and there still plenty of glitches. Playing PS2 games on native hardware is far superior.
Most emulation beyond the 16 bit era (not including handhelds) are not good with the exception of Dolphin (cube/wii) and Dreamcast & PS1 emulation.
Your 3700x will last you many years. You just need to upgrade your gpu down the line and you'll be fine.I've spent 2k$ for my 3700x/2070. Good to know it will be worth nothing soon!
M+K is the main difference TBH, which defines the way you play you play the game (desk + small screen vs couch + big TV), All the rest are just semantics really. That's the sole reason why most people chose either of the two, and won't change their mind no matter what.