You forgot to include the obligatory "NINTENDO IS DOOMED!"PC gaming is literally unstoppable like Thanos now. I'm expecting nintendo games (outside of emulators ofc) this decade, at this point it's inevitable.
With pc, I can move my games to a different ssd, hdd, thumb drive, etc. I can back up my data, and freely do as I please with it. The same goes for a console disc, but can be easily scratched or damaged. I can take my drive or thumb drive over to a buddies house and play the game, the same way I could at home. Steam doesn't go around and delete your files and games, even if there game is obsolete and unsupported.
lol.... don't true. stop spreading lies
The worst thing is that they continue to think that console gamers think consoles are somehow better than PC's. What they don't understand s that it is a personal choice whether it be better value, preferred setup and or without so many custom options etc. They just don't get it. I have a good gaming PC and I still prefer to play my consoles because as you said, there is so much bullshit and tweaking involved and I hate that side of it.
Yes it will be, but again, we don't care.
Weird. I just pre-ordered HZD.
What kind of tinkering do you do? You seem to be the guardian of consoles, and I want to know some answers. So please let us in on this tinkering you have to do, that 98% of players, don't experience?
Dirt cheap, and for a better experience, count me in!
We don't pay for online gaming on PC...
A high-end pc will play games in hd 5+ years from now and you can upgrade it.
It's a choice obviously but better graphics and performance has a price.
Yeah, exactly. It's like they constantly have this feeling at the back of their minds that they need the validation for spending a lot of money on their rigs. Also yeah, to get the graphics quality of nextgen consoles (and I hope all PCMR types understand that I said graphics quality and not hardware power) they will need a lot more than $500...
You seriously think those parts for those prices are going to match the performance of the Series X or PS5 which most games don't forget are optimised for console. Good luck getting Native 4K 60-90fps out of that which is what they are easily going to do.. Stop spouting crap! Give me the specific specs of those parts so I can discount what you are saying. I used to build PC's. I have a gaming PC.. you are talking smack! I'm not some console only gamer you can fool buddy,
I said tweaking, there is a difference
Honestly, yea you probably will get a console level of performance out of that, unless MS decides to subsidize their system out the asshole.
I will wait and I'll be here to come back after it's all said and done.
People do care about resolution. People gaming on a 65+ inch 4K OLED HDR TV will tell you otherwise. 1080p is not the same at all. That's just your opinion because you don't care for it.U should have said 8k and 120fps mate u starting to slack a bit.
Anyway i will bite.
CPU:
Multiple cores are probably locked like with the PS4 for security reasons and background tasks which means 8 core will really just be a 6 core.
Clocks are probably reduced drastically to push more GPU clocks forwards which is more important at the end of the day in those boxes as they focus on 4k. 4x performance increase over a 350 scoring cinebench cpu = a 1600af stock which is 85 bucks, sounds about right.
Memory:
Any 16gb of ddr4 will do at 3000+mhz
SSD:
Any 1-2gb's ssd will do at 512-1tb depends on what quality brand u wanna go for. Honestly they ain't much costing. If you want however quality ones u will have to pay more. but its not like sony/microsoft aren't going to the most cheap chinese knockoff while they are at it. Also highly unlikely they going for much more then that range as they can and will cut costs on it or push more space instead of performance, hard drive quality was never there focus. What a chip supports for future revisions doesn't say anything really.
Motherboard:
Any trash cheapo motherboard will do, zero reason to invest money into this ryzen is already so long on the market really. and consoles and motherboard quality yea lul. Cheapest plate they can bake. Hell even that cheap motherboard will probably have more possibilities then those consoles on top of it.
Other stuff:
U can buy whatever trash case or not even a case at all. Put it on a wooden plank all i care for. Or buy whatever trash case, mouse keyboard, cheapest shit do the job perfectly fine. No need to buy anything special. All my keyboards i use for my high end and other PC's are 5 buck keyboards as example. Windows is also free, no need to license it. Can't change your background tho, big deal i guess.
Then GPU department.
PC resolution, nobody cares about 4k PPI density of 1080p on 22 inch is about as high as a 45 inch 4k television up that inch and boom there goes your crispiness vs 1080p on pc. 4k is a waste of performance. It's only benched to see potential of the GPU with CPU bottleneck basically.
Here's a example of a game that's incredible AMD biased.
5700xt 4k = 55 fps
5700xt 1080p = 139 fps
4k murders framerate add raytracing with it and have a good laugh.
Now lets assume the PS5 = 12 tfops that's probably something like 70 fps at best which equals a 1080p 1650 super at 72 fps, recently bought one for about 170 bucks i believe?
Dam u actually save some cash. But the only weakness of that GPU is 4gb of v-ram, so just wait on the next gpu line from nvidia which is about to launch or get the amd equalivant as those consoles are not out yet anyway and even then 4000 series CPU will probably also get a bump in performance on PC. Still that's already 20gb of total ram dayum.
So yea you are right, PC is actually even cheaper. Good that u pointed that out.
And that box will be highly upgradable. Consoles upgradable? whats that.
*compatibility issues aside
I'm not sure what are you arguing? That 2080ti cannot render even stable 60 fps in BFV @4k?
What needs to be tweaked? Have you used a gaming pc before?
You know very well, but as I know you want me to say it, the graphics settings. I'm a perfectionist and have OCD so having so many options is my worst nightmare. I spend more time tweaking those than playing the game.
Why the need to tweak it though? Are you in the year of 2010? Do you not play games that actually auto configure your settings based on hardware and resolution? Or are you just bullshitting as usual? You know it's extremely easy to spot a console gamer that pretends to play on pc right? People who mention graphics options, bios, driver issues, windows updates, etc, are completely full of shit.
Mid tier PC, playing in 1440p. trying to squeeze those extra frames. I don't really use my PC for gaming anymore as I've stated many times.. I stick to my X and Pro. I rather lay on my couch on my big screen 4K TV. Not really able to have my PC setup there either as my PC is also in my office as I use it for work. PC's are a pain to me. Just like someone who drives an Auto because they can't be bothered changing gears in a Manual. I don't know why it's so hard for PC Gamers to grasp the alternative choice.
The bold is a load of trash. We know at worst, next gen consoles will be equivalent to the 5700xt and 3700x which tosses your GPU and CPU estimates in the trash where they belong. With regards to your SSD figure, I've yet to see 1TB NVME drives at that price so again, in the trash. In fact, just take your whole list of terrible estimates and toss it in the trash where it belongs.
Awww man, not the "id rather sit on my couch and play" excuse. You realize the same way you hook up your Xbox or ps4...? Works the same for pc? Regardless of the room it is in. But I get it. You play in console, and not on pc. Could have just said that instead of trying to make people believe you actually play on pc. I get it
At worst?! You definitely won't see 3xxx performance on a console lololol. What makes you think Sony and MS will bleed money for console users? There's a reason why there are super cars, and why there are consumer cars. Consoles are the consumer cars, pc's are the super cars. STAY IN YOUR LANE bro.
You didn't think to mod it so you could get the gamepad working?
I've always somewhat played on PC and always had a gaming PC and still occasionally will play, like I'm waiting for the C&C Remasters in June. Can't wait for that shit! Obviously PC is the only place to play Strategy games like that.
Whatever Lavar Ball. We already know that the Series X is using Zen 2 8 core(3700x) at 3.5 ghz. The CPU is lower clocked than the real 3700x but it doesn't matter because the OS on console is light weight. Furthermore, there are no computationally intensive background process. The new gen consoles are going to render all 4 core and 6 core(no hyperthreading) as useless. The base requirements are going up by a lot. Your list is a bunch of woeful estimates that exposes your lack of knowledge on the subject matter. Like I said, your estimates are garbage tier.
Your estimates are shit tier if you think you are getting over $1000 of hardware, for less than $600. You do know the power requirements of a 3700x, right? Or are you just as uneducated in pc parts and performance, as well as requirements for ample cooling. Guess you didn't think that far ahead, before you began talking out of your ass. Get a clue, and come back with an intelligent response next time.
