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PS5 vs PS5 Pro Early Graphics Comparison- Hogwarts Legacy / Spider-Man 2/The Last of Us 2 Remastered
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Marginally sharper res for 800,-
Sounds like a great deal.
Edit: also, the whole Ray tracing talk sounds like horse shit, as those features also tax the CPU quite hard.. which didn't see an upgrade. So still a 2019 mid range CPU handling all the bounces and off screen culling at 60? Good luck with that.
Sounds like a great deal.
Edit: also, the whole Ray tracing talk sounds like horse shit, as those features also tax the CPU quite hard.. which didn't see an upgrade. So still a 2019 mid range CPU handling all the bounces and off screen culling at 60? Good luck with that.
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blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Waste of time comparing YouTube footage, wait for DG / nx gamer.
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TrebleShot
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Great video, best comparison I have seen so far.
Senua
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MALpractice311
Member
I bought the PS4 Pro within a month or two of it's release. But I've still yet to see any reason to buy the PS5 Pro. These upgrades are so marginal. I'll just wait for the PS6 for some real upgrades.
Panajev2001a
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Actual CPU cost on consoles for RT estimated from thicker and more abstracted PC titles (DXR is less efficient in PC vs Xbox even and PS5 API have quite low CPU overhead). CPU saw a 10% clock speed increase (and over 28% higher memory bandwidth) for about 1% GPU clock speed decrease (high frequency CPU mode), but still most titles which will benefit from RT more are those that either already implement RT so they mostly already paid the extra CPU cost or they have CPU headroom (see GT7 now having very high quality RT reflections in game, Spider-man 2 seemingly having RT shadows too).
captainnapalm
Member
What's going on with the Forbidden West comparison? That's not just an increase in processing power and image clarity.
midnightAI
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oooh look, another forum go-er who thinks they know more than Mark Cerny and the Sony hardware engineers
(explain ray tracing in game for GT7 if its horse shit)
this whole comparison is dumb anyway, isnt this doubly compressed by youtube (youtube comparison of two youtube videos)
midnightAI
Member
Better lighting at least according to Cerny, but to me (I may be misremembering), but looks like there is more foliage and fine detail? that could be just the better lighting though
Insomniac being the only one who seem to tapp into the RT features with high performance. But if i'm honest, it makes sense looking at the gamelogic leap, which is barely there. They still play like PS4 games with higher visual fidelity, but haven't leaped in higher simulation fidelity (where the CPU/RAM comes in). So all thar headroom is spent on more visual fluf. Don't get me wrong, a like RT features, but I would rather see CPU being used for an actual game-logic leap, like GTA VI is probably gonna bring (judging from there past record)
Also, the 10% clock speed increase isn't as much as ya think. It's a basic OC on most CPU'S since the 00's. It I'll only help with smoothing out frame times, not drastically increasing IPC as the architecture still is the same 2019 mid range CPU.
Without direct captures this is all a bit premature but with the current publicly available YouTube feed shots, €800 for crisper leaves in Spider-Man 2 is beyond lame.
Instead of acting like this is some fancy golden treasure they should have had every single "influencer" under the sun filming footage to counter the trolls who look at this and laugh themselves silly. It has to be impressive in person or they wouldn't have bothered but over a screen it looks so stupid.
Instead of acting like this is some fancy golden treasure they should have had every single "influencer" under the sun filming footage to counter the trolls who look at this and laugh themselves silly. It has to be impressive in person or they wouldn't have bothered but over a screen it looks so stupid.
Hunter 99
Member
Meh..keep showing old games most people have already played and most likely will not play again just because of the pro.
Maybe it's just me but who is actually replaying anything single player story they played on ps5 on the ps5 pro when it comes?
I will not be replaying hogwarts legacy or tlou 2 just because it looks marginally nicer.hell no.
Maybe it's just me but who is actually replaying anything single player story they played on ps5 on the ps5 pro when it comes?
I will not be replaying hogwarts legacy or tlou 2 just because it looks marginally nicer.hell no.
VolticArchangel
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FeralEcho
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How to get a PS5 Pro by not spending 700$
Step 1: Turn on PS5 standard
Step 2: Lower contrast and brightness on tv
Step 3: Raise sharpness on tv
Step 4: Profit
captainnapalm
Member
Hardware boost can't change the lighting like that. That has to be some kind of reshare or HDR implementation. Unless the game is actually getting a bit of a remaster from the devs.
GymWolf
Member
Is that airsofatty?
midnightAI
Member
They'll patch it, the 40 or so games they have mentioned are all getting patches, these aren't system level changes (there are system level changes but these are getting extra)
Luipadre
Member
RT is much better quality and sharper picture. Some of you really need glasses
twilo99
Member
Them profit margins ain’t gonna sort themselves out after all…
When buying a PS5 “pro” we have to just keep in mind how much support we are giving to Sony’s bottom line, which translates to more amazing Marvel games for us and our frens
jm89
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If you have a decent gaming rig you are also contributing to whatever manufacturers bottom line. Probably moreso the Sony.
Lokaum D+
Member
Not U$800 better, at 10 feets from my TV ill see no diference
Little Mac
Gold Member
Has it been mentioned anywhere if the vrr window on the Pro is better than the 48 fps found on the base?
Is that even something that could improved on the Pro?
Is that even something that could improved on the Pro?
Kokoloko85
Member
No guys. PS5 Pro is over priced. This is the what you want to buy for a $100 less and without the fake media outrage. This is the product you need. Or a $1000+ PC
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mckmas8808
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The PS5 Pro isn't for the majority of people.
Heisenberg007
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El Muerto
Member
And turn on smooth motion for extra frames!
MDSLKTR
Member
Glasses and Lasik are a thing.
akaFullmetal
Member
Need some direct feeds to really tell. Can't wait to see comparisons from digital foundry in November.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
I rather wait for the TLOU 2 remake for PS6.
Ronin_7
Member
The amount of bullshit I read here is off the charts.
This is a good take
Basically a summary:
+ Ps5 will give you a sharper image with higher base res + PSSR
- Framerate will probably not improve much. Framerates are usually limited by CPU in current performance modes anyway
- Adding ray tracing to existing games, especially to 60 fps games, will tax the old CPU too much
- Loading times etc will be the same or possibly longer if bigger textures etc are used with the extra GPU memory in the pro
What a waste - imagine if the also doubled CPU performance...
Team Andromeda
Member
Hardly shouts £700 quids worth of difference.
Maybe Kojima-san will show the way
Maybe Kojima-san will show the way
mayham2199
Member
Of course not it's a compressed youtube video. Even DF said they have to wait until they get their hands on a pro to properly judge it.
It's barely different from the original.
The framerate? Sure, you'd notice that, but everything else, unless you really spend your time looking and comparing, I can guarantee the majority will say it looks exactly the same.
bundylove
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Bogroll
Likes moldy games
Yeah that's way overpriced but you haven't got to pay that to get a SX. You got no choice to pay whatever it is in your region to get a PS5Pro.
No guys. PS5 Pro is over priced. This is the what you want to buy for a $100 less and without the fake media outrage. This is the product you need. Or a $1000+ PC
Kokoloko85
Member
You can just buy a PS5…
Hope most realise it's a GPU upgrade only. Meaning: Higher Framerates isn't only depended on a leap in raw GPU power. The games that will see a bump in performance are already GPU bound in the first place. But plenty of more ambitious games that tax the CPU with physics and simulation stuff are gonna give the same results regardless. (Think Dragon's Dogma 2, or Space Marine 2)
The CPU and hardware balance in general matters.
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Bogroll
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Yes of course but not if you want a PS5 Pro.
They're limited by both. The CPU got a clock boost though and will likely improve performance
GT7 added raytracing ingame. The CPU is again apparently clocked higher.
It has the same memory capacity but faster. I'm not sure where you're getting this idea of bigger textures increasing loading.
Mate, not sure if ya know but the clock boost is a meagerly 350mhz boost, it's to smooth out frame times in GPU bound scenarios at most. That 'boost' will not help with calculation expensive off screen bounces. I'll bet with RT they mostly mean GI instead of reflections which is less CPU demanding.
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