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[Draugoth]

The FidelityFX Super Resolution 4 (FSR 4) is officially here, or at least, the slides suggest it is ready. The FSR 4 technology is a machine-learning-powered upscaling solution developed for AMD’s RDNA4 architecture. It focuses on 4K upscaling and is designed to work with Frame Generation and Anti-Lag 2.

The announcement of AMD’s FSR 4 comes just as NVIDIA prepares to unveil DLSS 4 during the RTX 50 showcase later today. NVIDIA has yet to confirm whether its technology will support older hardware.

According to AMD, RDNA4 architecture offers:​

• Optimized Compute Units
• Enhanced AI Compute capabilities (2nd-generation AI accelerators)
• Improved Raytracing performance per Compute Unit (3rd-generation Raytracing accelerators)
• Better media encoding quality (2nd-generation AMD Radiance Display Engine)
• 4nm manufacturing process

AMD Reference and custom designs:​

1. AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT MBA (Made by AMD)
2. AMD Radeon RX 9070 MBA (Made by AMD)
3. YESTON Radeon RX 9070 XT SAKURA
4. SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 9070 XT NITRO+
5. ASROCK Radeon RX 9070 XT TAICHI
6. POWERCOLOR Radeon RX 9070 XT Red Devil
7. ASUS Radeon RX 9070 XT TUF Gaming
8. GIGABYTE Radeon RX 9070 XT AORUS ELITE
9. VASTARMOR Radeon RX 9070 XT Super Alloy
10. XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT
11. ACER Radeon RX 9070 XT

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[RoboFu]

Good they need to split off the " runs on everything " fsr and make a premium version for newer cards.

 

[Gonzito]

 

[Bojji]

That's what I expected. I was quite close to buying 7900xtx few months ago...

 

[SolidQ]

That's what I expected. I was quite close to buying 7900xtx few months ago...

There rumor, FSR4 have two path, for RDNA4 and for rest, but seems for now, marketing gonna force buy 9xxx series

 

[willothedog]

Nvidia only has deep learning, this machine learning seems next-level

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Nvidia only has deep learning, this machine learning seems next-level

Let's no get too excited just yet. AMD has a lot to prove here.

 

[owandeseis]

Great news, expected, but still.

Wonder how it'll compare to PSSR, wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty much the same, with the same strenghts and the same flaws, we'll find out in a few hours, would be cool if they are able to showcase some RT/PT on their presentation, the more competition the better

 

[rodrigolfp]

Finally they are an option vs Nvidia again, maybe.

(2nd-generation AI accelerators)

What is the first generation??

 

[Wolzard]

It's an advertisement and not necessarily an announce, but we'll see. It's likely that AMD will adopt the format that Intel uses with XESS. There is a model that runs on any GPU and there is a better model that works exclusively on Intel GPUs.

ps: why create a new thread, if there is already an AMD rumors thread?

 

[SolidQ]

What is the first generation??

RDNA3 WMMA, RDNA4 is much faster AI WMMA

 

[cormack12]

Damn, this gonna eat Nvidia market share rapidly

 

[SlimySnake]

Please be good. I can’t upgrade to the 5080 because of insanely high prices so hopefully amd offers a cheaper alternative.

 

[rodrigolfp]

RDNA3 WMMA, RDNA4 is much faster AI WMMA

Not fast enough to do a DLSS equivalent?

 

[SolidQ]

for RDNA4, FSR4 have exclusive kernel, for rest another path

Not fast enough to do a DLSS equivalent?

We will see in future, if you remember AFMF was exclusive for RDNA3, then they add for rest cards

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Really interested in seeing what these new AMD cards can do with regard to RT and PT. I'm also hoping they aren't stupid expensive like the 5000 series leaks seem to indicate.

 

[Dr.D00p]

Wonder how it'll compare to PSSR

..different name, same shit.

 

[Bojji]

There rumor, FSR4 have two path, for RDNA4 and for rest, but seems for now, marketing gonna force buy 9xxx series

If it's like XeSS it will be worse quality. But yeah, even with worse quality XeSS looks better than current FSR.

 

[Topher]

Hopefully this makes AMD a viable option, but Nvidia always seems to "one up" every move AMD makes.

 

[SolidQ]

List with FSR 3.1 games, which can be upgrade to FSR4
UPDATED 12th NOVEMBER
ARK: Survival Ascended
Bellwright
Beyond Hanwell
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6
Caravan SandWitch

DON'T SCREAM
DUCKSIDE
Enotria: The Last Song
EVERSPACE 2

Farming Simulator 25

FINAL FANTASY XVI
Frostpunk 2
God of War Ragnarök
Gori: Cuddly Carnage

GreedFall II: The Dying World

Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered
Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition
Creatures of Ava
Dungeon Stalkers
FlipScapes
Funko Fusion
Ghost of Tsushima DIRECTOR'S CUT
Hunt: Showdown 1896
Incursion Red River
Lost Records: Bloom & Rage
Manor Lords

Marvel Rivals
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales
Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
MechWarrior 5: Clans
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
New Home: Medieval Village

No More Room in Hell 2

Pine Harbor
Predator: Hunting Grounds
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
REMNANT II
Satisfactory
SILENT HILL 2
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown

The Axis Unseen
Warhammer 40,000: Darktide
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2
Tiny Glade
Until Dawn

 

[Xyphie]

If it's like XeSS it will be worse quality. But yeah, even with worse quality XeSS looks better than current FSR.

Likely it's just a new DLL which introduces FSR4. They made it upgradable just like DLSS with FSR 3.1. So the older GPUs use FSR 3.1 and the newer ones use FSR 4 and it's all invisible to the game because the engine inputs are the same. If they are really smart they make it so you can rename their DLL to nvngx_dlss.dll and use it using DLSS inputs.

 

[//DEVIL//]

AMD didn’t announce the price so they can wait and see what Nvidia will announce today and then go 100$ below what is directly competing with their card . Same typical move every time.

Also lol at FSR4 not working with 7000 series. They announce FSR4 been in development for more than 1 year few months back and don’t want to enable it for the 7000 series… talk about a shitty move not even Nvidia did pull.

Let’s hope it’s as good as DLSS2 because I am quite sure they are going to be murdered against DLSS4

 

[SolidQ]

AMD didn’t announce the price

Because presentation later in 6 hrs

Also lol at FSR4 not working with 7000 series.

Marketing, Remember AFMF

 

[V1LÆM]

DLSS is the only thing stopping me going AMD. Improved raytracing would be nice but I can't live without DLSS and it doesn't help it's giving developers an excuse to be lazy and not optimise their games.

If AMD can release a reasonably priced card to match a 5080, with good FSR, and at least 20GB VRAM then I'll buy it.

 

[rodrigolfp]

We will see in future

I meant for them to have done already for RDNA3 Radeons.

 

[Radical_3d]

Damn. This is making me doubt. I was for a Mac Mini but just upgrade my GPU could be a good move as well.

 

[SolidQ]

If AMD can release a reasonably priced card to match a 5080,

no card to match 5080. They cancel it


Here is perfomance/price etc

 

[twilo99]

Great news, expected, but still.

Wonder how it'll compare to PSSR, wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty much the same, with the same strenghts and the same flaws, we'll find out in a few hours, would be cool if they are able to showcase some RT/PT on their presentation, the more competition the better

PSSR seems to be more XeSS than FSR

 

[V1LÆM]

no card to match 5080. They cancel it


Here is perfomance/price etc

what?

is it only going to be cards to compete with lower nvidia cards?

 

[twilo99]

Damn. This is making me doubt. I was for a Mac Mini but just upgrade my GPU could be a good move as well.

The Mac mini is an amazing machine but certainly not for gaming? I’ve got one and while the efficiency is unmatched, there are very few games available so I end up using cloud

 

[SolidQ]

is it only going to be cards to compete with lower nvidia cards?

with 5070 tier

what?

There also rumor UDNA will have ony one tier above compare to RDNA4, like X080 and only 999$ max.

 

[winjer]

PSSR seems to be more XeSS than FSR

According to Cerny, PSSR was developed in partnership with AMD. So FSR4 will probably share quite a bit of code with PSSR.

 

[SolidQ]

So FSR4 will probably share quite a bit of code with PSSR.

but can be better, because RDNA4 have more tops + pc optimize

 

[M1987]

no card to match 5080. They cancel it


Here is perfomance/price etc

Nothing will match even the 5070ti,only 5070

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

If the cards will be somewhere in the 315-320 length range with low loise and a good price performance maybe I'm upgrading from my 5700XT. Less than five hours.

 

[hinch7]

Please be good. I can’t upgrade to the 5080 because of insanely high prices so hopefully amd offers a cheaper alternative.

These will be more competitive with the 5070 cards. The name scheme speaks for itself. Hopefully closer the the Ti than the regular.

 

[TrebleShot]

According to Cerny, PSSR was developed in partnership with AMD. So FSR4 will probably share quite a bit of code with PSSR.

Its the same thing isnt it? Cerny also said the name PSSR is just branding. Its just machine learning upscaling from AMD = FSR4

 

[SolidQ]

Nothing will match even the 5070ti,only 5070

We don't have info yet. Let's just wait

 

[Buggy Loop]

Good they need to split off the " runs on everything " fsr and make a premium version for newer cards.

Been saying that for years

Like fuck open source for now, you need to compete

 

[cormack12]

I thought Cerny would be saying develop SSR no? If PlayStation think SSR is better than FSR

 

[ThatPolishGuy]

According to Cerny, PSSR was developed in partnership with AMD. So FSR4 will probably share quite a bit of code with PSSR.

but can be better, because RDNA4 have more tops + pc optimize

Let's hope so but I will keep my expectations in check. AMD always underdelivers when they hype things up, and when they don't they surprisingly overdeliver even - that's my experience with AMD.

Anyways I'm on AMD GPU currently so incase I want to upgrade I will wait a bit and decide which GPU is best in the price range of my upgrade - be it AMD or Nvidia. Might even go for older RTX 4xxx series GPU... Depends how things shape up.

 

[SolidQ]

Yeah S "" X

 

[rodrigolfp]

Yeah S "" X

What a scam! Unless it doesn't have the AI upscaling part on Xboxes.

 

[Cyborg]

Nvidia only has deep learning, this machine learning seems next-level

Yeah sure...... Nvidia presentation is coming and will make this look like a joke. Nvidia is 5 year ahead and has no competition hence the insane prices.

 

[showernota]

I got a 7800xt on Black Friday that’s sitting unopened, ready to be returned.

 

[Insane Metal]

That looks super fake.

 

[lh032]

 

[Rudius]

If we could mod DLSS games to run with FSR 4 it would be fantastic

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Interesting how different/similar will be to pssr and what it means for future of pssr (if its better then whats the point of sony investing in it more ?)

 

[Kazekage1981]

What about FSR 4.0's impact on raytracing? DLSS 3.5 has AI Reconstruction Raytracing.