Madserb2023
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Dragon Age Veilguard, Non Binary character
- Thread starter Gonzito
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SHAKEZ
Member
If you believe hard enough... I mean are you going to pander this hard to straight people as well then?
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XXL
Member
Same. Lol.Wasn't buying it to begin with but the thread should be fun
Dazraell
Member
I always try to follow a mantra that if it's something that fits the character and comes naturally from a story perspective, I'm fine with it and I don't care. But if it's something that happens to be the most defining thing about that character, is constantly brought up so player won't forget and feels like someone is doing this shit to push personal ideologies, nah, they can fuck off. I already saw enough to know Veilguard is highly likely the other case
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Ya'll are fragile because you think every time this happens it requires another 20 page thread of people freaking out about it
StueyDuck
Member
People simply saying something is dumb is "freaking out"
Define what a freak out is?
Kacho
Gold Member
We’re discussing the absolute decline of a beloved, established series. No one is freaking out, you’re just butt hurt.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I personally think being fragile and thinking something shouldn't be in a game like this are two different things
Like the old saying goes "There is a time and place for everything" and many are saying this ain't it
Major glow up tbhBioware's game director is trans.
Windom Earle
Member
The target demographic has spoken, chuds btfo (timestamped for prosperity)
PeteBull
Member
U laughing and using black person as a gif here, but tons of hood ppl have very strong opinions on that stuff, u can find it on yt even when they debate, since they are black this content is allowed to exist but i guarantee u take any avg conservative person(doesnt even have to be american, just person with traditional values which are around 7bilion in the world) and compare it to how brothers from the hood think about clownworld, u will realise our views are timid af stillOh no NOT THE NON BINARY!
Fabieter
Member
Does it have to be in your face like they are trying to do? If you do than don't blame gamers when they don't like the shit your write. This will be the last bioware games and I will hear the crying with why are people so mean and don't buy my game i made for a small niche who don't buy games.
mitch1971
Member
My only condition to having this included in the game would be allowing you to choose a side like the vast majority of RPG's do. If the 'opening addition content' choice was opened whether you agree or not and you would, further down the line, choose to discuss it more - changing your thoughts or sticking stead fast to your ideals - then so be it. Yet, my initial presumption is, this would not be up for debate after the initial announcement, and it's an agenda push where you are not allowed an equal pull for balance. Actually, to tie your agreement to the promise of bonus additional conversations is a weak ploy at best.
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ChorizoPicozo
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HogIsland
Member
i didn't imply man or child. more dull, antisocial person.
Shubh_C63
Member
The sales of DEI-Woke DA: Unveiled would be the definite pointer towards whether going woke go broke is true.
This is literal unveiling of the most on your face woke game and narrative out there with AAA quality.
If this did bad than I really think this will mark an end of video games merging issues of real world to spoil any immersion.
This is literal unveiling of the most on your face woke game and narrative out there with AAA quality.
If this did bad than I really think this will mark an end of video games merging issues of real world to spoil any immersion.
PeteBull
Member
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
DEIgon age. A lot of gaming is doing this, but they have included these characters in the past. What is new is that the whole culture we are in is polarized one way or another about it. You don't have to explore it and you don't have to use that character probably. I lost interest in the game when I saw the combat.
Fabieter
Member
So its anti social. For what?
King Dazzar
Member
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Well, I'll give Bioware this. It is in a fantasy game. And NB is about as real as dragons, so if NB belongs anywhere it's in a fantasy game.
HogIsland
Member
for you go out in the world and there are visibly queer people. do you knee-jerk hate them? seems anti-social to me.
Fabieter
Member
PeteBull
Member
It will very likely not meet sales expectations, but woke ideology and pushing propaganda is deeply ingrained in entertainment industry, including gaming, especially when it comes to AAA western studios, it will take many more flops/games bombing and lay offs/studio clousures before clowns pushing their ideology gonna be forced out and forced to give up, i predict we gonna get bombarded with it at least till end of next gen so dunno- 2040?
BigBeauford
Gold Member
If only non-binary individuals portrayed in media like this could have a laugh at their own expense, perhaps the pushback wouldn't be what it is. Instead, we are forced to conform to their worldview and their feelings with the price of not doing so being your ability to inhabit the same spaces.
Husky
THE Prey 2 fanatic
I don't care about the culture war arguments against this inclusion, to me the only problem is that it'd break my immersion. This sort of fantasy is usually grounded in some sort of historical reality, so this feels out of place to me, almost like an anachronism. I felt the same way about the dialogue and music in Netflix's The Witcher, it really took me out of that setting. Oh man, same with that awful Willow sequel on Disney+ (now removed from the service, woo). But I wasn't a fan of the earlier Dragon Ages, so I guess this entry was never gonna win my interest.
StueyDuck
Member
Apparently only non binary people socialize
geary
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Fabieter
Member
Its like they are coming to me and tell me iam wrong for not being queer as well. It's a video games which punch this weird shit into my face time and time again. If they don't want the non queen audience to buy their game than they should stop the crying after their games fail to meet targets.
It's the same with vegan people lecturing me why I like my
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Davevil
Late October Surprise
imagine being an adult writing this post with blue/pink hair
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cinnamonandgravy
Member
seems cool, maybe ill actually play this game
ill be a non-binary character, hunting other non-binaries, so i can be lord non-binary, as was foretold.
per legend, the non-binaries will go into hiding, but my charms will suss them out.
there'll be a lot of false positives, but you gotta crack a few eggs
ill be a non-binary character, hunting other non-binaries, so i can be lord non-binary, as was foretold.
per legend, the non-binaries will go into hiding, but my charms will suss them out.
there'll be a lot of false positives, but you gotta crack a few eggs
HogIsland
Member
just as an example since a few people did the witty "imagine being an adult" reverse card: most identifiable queer people are adults. it has something to do with sexuality, and personal identity and stuff that kinda comes to a head around 15+.
Davevil
Late October Surprise
steve_o_3000
Member
We didn’t get to the end of the dialogue tree. Maybe you get a big “LOL” at the end.
HogIsland
Member
the op calls it "disgusting" and "this shit". is there a joke somewhere?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Youre telling me in fantasy RPGs when there’s quests to retrieve a lost artifact, kill a goblin hoard or protect a castle under siege, that a sub-quest for Charles the Cleric to marry Wayne the Warlock isn’t just as immersive?!?!?!
Woopah
Member
That we shouldn't gatekeep who is and is not "allowed" to be in a video game.
If someone said "straight characters don't belong in video games" then I'd disagree with that too.
What would you have liked Bioware to do differently, to include non-binary and transgender characters/options in a better way?
poodaddy
Gold Member
Imagine being an adult that supports it.
HogIsland
Member
who is telling you that?Its like they are coming to me and tell me iam wrong for not being queer as well. It's a video games which punch this weird shit into my face time and time again. If they don't want the non queen audience to buy their game than they should stop the crying after their games fail to meet targets.
It's the same with vegan people lecturing me why I like my
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
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Real talk. I see little point in these scenes as they do nothing to improve the game and create very bland and uninteresting characters where being Transgender or whatever is the entirety of their character and comes across as shallow.
Not a good look for reviews but then again they made sure they were all brimming with positivity so that says much about the product.
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Northeastmonk
Gold Member
She’s Russian, so her experience is with having a transgender friend who had to leave Russia when they invaded Ukraine. Her friend was in fear of losing all their rights as a transgender person. They packed up all their belongings and moved to Spain.
PeteBull
Member
It surely made up content by some mysogonist racist white cis male incel pigBut some people here said it wasn't woke and we just called everything we didn't like "woke"What is this screenshot then?
AtomicStarving
Member
I refuse to believe it. But at this point maybe you check your map on an iPhone 16. Gotta please the modern audience.