RedNumberFive
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Going by his username, he seems to be in the business of rustlin' jimmies.
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EDGE: "Power struggle: the real differences between PS4 and Xbox One performance"
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Going by his username, he seems to be in the business of rustlin' jimmies.
I don't think it is that simple. He mentioned the free Fifa 14 and the price so that's a reason to get the PS4 isn't it?
thunder_snail
Member
Lol. I think one of the reason this thread is still open is to lure in trolls so the mods can snipe them.
yes thank you, some one got it.
Crimson_Fate
Member
So first you say you are getting the XB because it is a better value with free Fifa.
I contest that and now its because it has better launch Titles ????
I would have given you credit if you stuck to your guns but seems you went to standard fallback position #2..
Syphon Filter
Member
We must inform The Hague!
We don't get screwed. The Aussie PS4 prices are a bit cheaper than the UK and Euro. It just seems expensive compared to the US price, but even then there isn't much in it. And the Xbone is loads cheaper.
The PS4 is £349 in the UK, which is AU$593 ($44 cheaper in Aus)
The PS4 is €399 in EU, which is AU$570 ($21 cheaper in Aus)
The Xbox is £429 in the UK, which is AU$729 here ($130 cheaper in Aus)
The Xbox is €499 in EU, which is AU$713 here ($114 cheaper in Aus)
For once, Australia is coming out well. We're getting the consoles at launch and the price is a cheaper than than all but one market. The dreaded days of late arriving Xboxes and $1000 PS3s are over.
The trolls win every time they get a thread shut down. Neogaf win every time a thread get a troll shut down.
Calm down, he said he wanted one because of the launch titles in his first post. He's not falling back to anything.
and that "standard fallback #2" is easily one of the main reasons to pick a console. The main reason I'm abandoning Xbox is due to the power and price difference. But imo, I agree with who you are quoting. Ms has shown more games that I like so far. And the Xb1 games will probably cause me to cave some time next year.
I honestly just hope naughty dog isn't too far out.
Syphon Filter
Member
Did N64 really have superior multiplats? i cant remember.
I like to rustle jimmies
I like to grind those GAFies
The Xbone has no powers
Look out for NSA intruders
PS4 games suck like Hoover
Killzone ain't no Halo killer
I like to rustle jimmies
I like to grind those GAFies
Drive by comments
Rockin five alt accounts
Infuriate the mods
Raise the ban count
I like to rustle jimmies
I like to grind those GAFies
I like to rustle jimmies
I like to grind those GAFies
I like to grind those GAFies
The Xbone has no powers
Look out for NSA intruders
PS4 games suck like Hoover
Killzone ain't no Halo killer
I like to rustle jimmies
I like to grind those GAFies
Drive by comments
Rockin five alt accounts
Infuriate the mods
Raise the ban count
I like to rustle jimmies
I like to grind those GAFies
I like to rustle jimmies
I like to grind those GAFies
Ken Masters
Banned
Because Microsoft is the boss of the industry.
PS1?
No i said its only $50 difference, to me that's not a game changer. Only said it made it better value with Fifa 14 as that is $100 game.
that's why games decided which one i choose 1st.
Im just going to leave it at that. otherwise we will go round in circles and get no where.
LOL!!!
edit: Someone should make a 'pretend to be an astroturfer' thread. Would be hilarious!
TastyOreoFriend
Member
I don't know; I thought it was usually either the N64 or Sega Saturn that winds up getting better multiplats than PS1.
Sorry if I'm wrong about it.
You're wrong, because that would suggest the N64 got multi platform games on it, or that the Saturn was in any way capable of 3D games.
To be fair there were gaffers guessing that some devs would settle for that resolution also. Not to take anything away from the Edge article because I believe there is some truth there. One console will be stronger than the other. I don't understand the atomic fallout behind this...
edit: That's not true, I understand why. 180 fans are all "so what, just let me enjoy my games. They'll probably be close anyway" and the other side is like "best console ever! In your fucking face!". So I dig it, I really do.
I thought you'd get a kick out of this bish. I'm not a snitch or anything but this guy PMed me and it was so dumb I just had to post it here.
Jimmy Rustle said:
I mean seriously. lol
At least you attacked the content of his posts.
If I had my way then junior members that don't write out "you" instead of "u" and use lots of exclamation points unironically would also be banned.
Edit: I just had a flashback to TheKayle, that was double-jeopardy.
If I had my way then junior members that don't write out "you" instead of "u" and use lots of exclamation points unironically would also be banned.
Edit: I just had a flashback to TheKayle, that was double-jeopardy.
Damn Ami. Considering there was nothing for him to lose at that point I guess it wasn't snitching. But it was borderline as fuck, lol!
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Would you like Jimmies? I smell a kickstarter!
SwiftDeath
Member
At least you attacked the content of his posts.
If I had my way then junior members that don't write out "you" instead of "u" and use lots of exclamation points unironically would also be banned.
Edit: I just had a flashback to TheKayle, that was double-jeopardy.
Don't bring up TheKayle
I'm sorry if his first language wasn't english and I'm not being sensitive enough but reading his posts made my head hurt more from the way he wrote then the content
Publishers are not beholden to manufacturers; quite the opposite really. Or do you really believe MS has any intentions of pushing the guys who pump out Call of Duty, Madden, Fifa, Grand Theft Auto, etc. around?
They won't "cripple" PS4 versions, they'll make games to a general target spec and tweak them until they're getting as much out of each system as they can within their allotted time/financial budget. That can mean almost no difference, or it can mean quite a bit, really depends on the publisher, developer, plenty of factors.
EDIT: I found RDJ's posts a bit ironic given his post history and how often he seemed to, well, have his own jimmies rustled over things.
I changed your tag to its present state because I hoped you had changed your ways.
How wrong I was.
How wrong I was.
Well its cheap compared to them sure, but look at it comparison to the America pricing.
The PS4 is $399 USD in the US, which is AU$426 ($124 more expensive)
The Xbox is $499 USD in the US which is AU$533 ($65 more expensive)
On top of that, our games regularly cost $99 - $110 for new releases, we aren't getting a good deal, we are getting screwed as usual.
Nothing like, good old console war.
So bigger difference than last gen confirmed!
If Xbox and PS4 were the only games in town, I'd agree. No point creating assets that only PS4 can leverage, just too expensive. So target Xbox and maybe add so bells and whistles to PS4 if you have time.
However, doesn't the PC muddy these waters? Assuming many/most third party titles will have a PC version, which platform now becomes the target? Wouldn't assets be created taking into account all three platforms, meaning potentially you PC core engines ported sideways across to both Xbox and PS4? That means you might have higher quality assets at your disposal so why not use them if the platform is capable.
And as for third party companies not wanting one platform to fare badly vs another,why is it fine for a PC version to look obviously better?
I don't get the 'not wanting to upset either side' - presumably meaning owners of Xbox/PS4, because GopherD said publishers wouldn't gimp for platform holders. If you only have an Xbox, or only have a Ps4 - which will be most people, then why would you care about whether BF5 looks better on 'that other machine', if you don't have it? Shouldn't the publisher be focusing on making sure that BF5 competes with COD7 on the same platform?
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
I don't buy into games being purposefully held back to achieve parity.
This generation games were easier to put onto the 360 and they generally sold better as well. So more dev time on the PS3, got you less reward and you still ended up with a slightly inferior game bar the odd exception.
I do realise I am greatly simplifying things but If the situation is reversed this gen, I see no reason why the same thing wont happen.
This generation games were easier to put onto the 360 and they generally sold better as well. So more dev time on the PS3, got you less reward and you still ended up with a slightly inferior game bar the odd exception.
I do realise I am greatly simplifying things but If the situation is reversed this gen, I see no reason why the same thing wont happen.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
CPU+GPU difference for X1 and PS4 would be 26.7%
Gemüsepizza
Member
How?
1.942 / 1.422 = ~1.366 -> PS4 is 136.6% of X1 -> +36.6% more
1.942 / 1.422 = ~1.366 -> PS4 is 136.6% of X1 -> +36.6% more
hooijdonk17
Member
Holy fucking shit this is first class statistical manipulation. Bravo. You should go into politics.
"They did not get 10% more votes, we got 9% less votes."
Nice, and why are you telling me this?
OmegaDL50
Member
In terms of a PC GPU, would that basically make the PS4 at 1152 GPU Cores / Stream Processes basically near the level of an HD7850
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/...-hd-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands (to compare)
In the Anandtech Xbox One and PS4 comparison article, they mention the PS4's GPU Core is at 900Mhz. With the HD7850 having 1024 Shaders and 860Mhz Core clock, the PS4 is comparably close to this, isn't it?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/...-hd-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands (to compare)
In the Anandtech Xbox One and PS4 comparison article, they mention the PS4's GPU Core is at 900Mhz. With the HD7850 having 1024 Shaders and 860Mhz Core clock, the PS4 is comparably close to this, isn't it?
Gemüsepizza
Member
Yes, I was just confused because he pointed at a single value and said it was wrong while not complaining about the others. Maybe it was a joke because in previous topics many people didn't get that both values were valid.
But I guess this is troubling for some Xbox fans - on the one hand you can use this view on numbers to reduce the difference between both consoles, but on the other hand you are defining PS4 as "100%" and X1 as "73.2%", which could be interpreted in a way that X1 "isn't enough". But when you say X1 is "100%" and PS4 is "136.6%" they could say "100%" is all you need.
just kidding obviously
It is something between 7850 and 7870
andromeduck
Member
Where?!
I don't see it.
If they were to run at 1.8/900 or higher it'd be fully GG for the XBone IQ wise IMO.
I think it should be 10% of the pre-upclock value, as I don't think snap gets more expensive just because the GPU gets a boost.
Brad Grenz
Member
The amount reserved isn't going to be adjusted just because the clock changed. It will still be a straight 10%.