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Pierre-Loup Griffais (@plagman.bsky.social)

Thank you... we've done pre-release Mesa Vulkan work on every AMD architecture since Vega thanks to them kindly providing hardware, so there's nothing meaningful to read into there. [contains quote post or other embedded content]

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[VolticArchangel]

Pierre-Loup Griffais (@plagman.bsky.social)

Thank you... we've done pre-release Mesa Vulkan work on every AMD architecture since Vega thanks to them kindly providing hardware, so there's nothing meaningful to read into there. [contains quote post or other embedded content]

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Their team is pretty fast on knocking down unsubstantiated rumors that pop up every now and then.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

I actually have played Xbox games on my phone via cloud streaming. So, true.

I have a bridge to sell to you.

 

[manlisten]

I hope Steam OS gonna kill both Microsoft and Sony in gaming market and we gonna see Gaben dancing naked at their graves drunk with vodka and around high class whores

You guys are going to have to keep learning this lesson, smh.

 

[neocycle]

Will be garbage compared to Switch 2/PS6.

 

[HogIsland]

You guys are going to have to keep learning this lesson, smh.

What lesson? History is happening. Everything we're seeing is unprecedented

 

[manlisten]

What lesson? History is happening. Everything we're seeing is unprecedented

People keep rooting for the competition to fail, like this is sports. It’s stupid.

Just look at AMD, Nvidia and the current GPU market. People want more of this??

I want as many viable players in the market as possible.

 

[Parazels]

Will be garbage compared to Switch 2/PS6.

It's possible, if PS6 is powerful enough to end discussions about bad performance or low res FSR.

 

[neocycle]

It's possible, if PS6 is powerful enough to end discussions about bad performance or low res FSR.

It's gonna be all about AI.

 

[Hudo]

if PS6 is powerful enough to end discussions about bad performance or low res FSR.

Nah. How would you then sell a PS6 Pro?

 

[Panajev2001a]

Nah. How would you then sell a PS6 Pro?

You can always make something more powerful and try out new tech you pan to expand on for PS7 while charging a premium for it all.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

It would be cool to get a SteamOs box to park under my TV in the living room and access all my Steam games. I would likely buy one.

But let’s not kid ourselves. It wouldn’t be a mass market device. They’re not gonna spend anything advertising it. It won’t be available at retail.

Unless they take on some other investors to partner with, which would fuck it all up anyway.

That already exists Bro!

It’s called Bazzite. It’s basically the SteamOS ported to any AMD CPU. I have such a setup in my living room. It has a 7800X3D and a 7800XT GPU and it’s legit amazing. Games run as good and often better than Windows. Some exceptions for sure, but it’s an incredible experience overall.

Nvidia support is shaky but getting better.

 

[bad guy]

..., they can still maket the PS6 as a high end gaming device atlernative to people who cant afford high end gaming PCs...... like the 70-80% of gamers who play on low to mid range PCs through Steam now.

I don't think many of the low to mid range PC gamers are interested in console gaming.

 

[bad guy]

Valve will NEVER loss lead on hardware. So, there is no chance the price : performance ratio will be comparable to a PS/Xbox.

Wrong, if they release weaker hardware than PS5 (like ~Deck hardware on a cheap stationary console) it's probably going to have better price: performance. And there is a plethora of Steam games that would run excellent on it.

 

[TheThreadsThatBindUs]

Wrong, if they release weaker hardware than PS5 (like ~Deck hardware on a cheap stationary console) it's probably going to have better price: performance. And there is a plethora of Steam games that would run excellent on it.

You're not even making an argument. You're responding with something that's entirely tangential to my claim.

My claim was that Valve will never loss-lead on hardware, meaning they will never take a $200 per unit loss on a product they sell in order to make the money back through software. They're not a hardware platform company. They're a software platform company. There is no fiscal justification for them loss-leading on hardware because hardware isn't the core of their business.... Steam is, and Steam is not locked down to one specific hardware config like console software eco-systems are.

For MS and Sony, they have no choice to loss-lead on hardware because the hardware is the core of their business. As is currently self-evident from MS's current poor hardware performance, if Sony and MS fail to sell boxes, it massively limits their ability to generate revenue.

All you've said is, "weaker hardware will be cheaper"... Like duh! How does that have anything to do with my original point about loss-leading?