This guy sounds like he's having an extensional crisis. "Oh, Galileo came back... but all that effort doesn't matter, since we're all going to be absorbed into the sun and end up dead anyway."
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Fighting Games Weekly | July 14-20 | Bracket Resets Full of Tears (of Joy?)
- Thread starter enzo_gt
- Start date
Sometimes I wish MvC3 never came out so I could actually learn MvC2 and play my dream team of Wolverine/Cable/Psylocke
Or the far superior option of MvC3 actually having a decent roster of Marvel/Capcom characters rather than the POS it is now. I'd actually suppress my hate for the game just to play it, if it had a better roster.
Or the far superior option of MvC3 actually having a decent roster of Marvel/Capcom characters rather than the POS it is now. I'd actually suppress my hate for the game just to play it, if it had a better roster.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
PR Rog's team is Team Scrub. Most results for least effort.
I'm biased because I have to put up with it on a semi-regular basis, but I really think Sumbrwnkid's team (Wolverine/Dante/Akuma) is the best Wolverine team. Once you block, you lose. I think I've played against literally every notable Wolverine player except PR Rog, and only JWong is a more frustrating player to play against than Tauseef.
Karsticles
Member
I think Tatsu and Plasma offer different things.
Consider the Firebrand matchup. It scares the crap out of PR Rog, and it is because Firebrand can duck under it. But Firebrand cannot duck under Tatsu.
Plasma Beam can be punished and even beaten by other projectiles. Tatsu is very hard to punish and negates projectiles.
Plus, Akuma is a much more flexible anchor than Doom.
I am not saying that Tatsu > Plasma, but it is not an inferior option. Not to mention that Tatsu scales combos much less. PR Dog needs TACs more than JWong does.
Consider the Firebrand matchup. It scares the crap out of PR Rog, and it is because Firebrand can duck under it. But Firebrand cannot duck under Tatsu.
Plasma Beam can be punished and even beaten by other projectiles. Tatsu is very hard to punish and negates projectiles.
Plus, Akuma is a much more flexible anchor than Doom.
I am not saying that Tatsu > Plasma, but it is not an inferior option. Not to mention that Tatsu scales combos much less. PR Dog needs TACs more than JWong does.
CountBlack
Member
http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/
Video's of Sako/Daigo and company playing
no idea what that says, just thought the picture of Sako sizing up Daigo on some Mayweather shit was funny
For those that missed it,
Harada vs. King Ray Jr. (8 year old) at EVO. That dev support to the community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C1x4GKelGDI
Harada: "I hate this game" lol
Edit: Also, Aris talking about Tekken 7 and his additional insight based on his questions to Harada at EVO.
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/ne...houghts-plus-additional-info-from-harada.html
In summation, TEKKEN 7!!!!!! GET READY FOR THE NEXT BATTLE!!!!
Harada vs. King Ray Jr. (8 year old) at EVO. That dev support to the community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C1x4GKelGDI
Harada: "I hate this game" lol
Edit: Also, Aris talking about Tekken 7 and his additional insight based on his questions to Harada at EVO.
http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/ne...houghts-plus-additional-info-from-harada.html
In summation, TEKKEN 7!!!!!! GET READY FOR THE NEXT BATTLE!!!!
It might be one those semantic arguments. "Best Wolverine team" is not necessarily the same as "Best team with Wolverine on it."
Is there any real difference between TAC infinites as long they are practical in all directions anywhere on screen
Is there any real difference between TAC infinites as long they are practical in all directions anywhere on screen
Doom's is easier and does more damage for a rep.
I guess in a vacuum where execution and potential for drops isn't as high, there is no difference.
sf2fanatic
Member
I have seen Snake Eyes play gief all the time. Did be main another character before?
Kalamari
Member
http://www.capcom.co.jp/sf4/
Video's of Sako/Daigo and company playing
no idea what that says, just thought the picture of Sako sizing up Daigo on some Mayweather shit was funny
This is what I Google Translate gave me as a translation:
WEB Video 8/7 release of "Ultra Street Fighter IV" is today delivery! To wage a battle is hot six professional gamers! Umehara, sako, Mago, herring roe, Bon-chan, participating players, plate Giang
If you want to factor in execution, Mags has the easiest one, no?
The theoretical best and most optimum Wolverine team is Wolverine/Doom/Dante.
Note that this is not the same thing as the best team featuring Wolverine which is in fact PRRog's team.
Plasma Beam is stupidly good for Wolverine and it's shocking that it wasn't discovered in Vanilla when almost everyone played Wolverine. It allows Wolverine to go for yolo full screen Berserker Slash to get in. If they block you get pressure because they blocked Plasma Beam... if they get hit then Plasma Beam allows conversion. It also doubles as a very good late combo extender for Wolverine. In addition, the positioning of the assist call makes it a semi defensive assist against other rushdown/heavy characters alowing Wolverine to have the last say in scramble situations (a reason why this assist is top tier as fuck).
Jam Session is also absurdly good for Wolverine. It allows for the same Tatsu style mix ups including Berserker Slash or instant overheads/fuzzies. It's an obscenely strong assist on incoming, it blocks fireballs for Wolverine and is an excellent combo extender for Wolverine. It also takes care of Wolverine's main problem which is dealing with super jump characters like Zero and Morrigan.
This one two combo of horizontal and vertical dominance makes Wolverine a major threat from various spaces and ensures maximum combo extensions. In addition, Dante's THC provides an obscene amount of lock down to open up people with while Doom has TAC option.
Both Dante and Doom can use each other's assists very well. Really though the only weakness of this team is that you have to play either Dante or Doom anchor as opposed to Vergil but for a front loaded Wolverine team this is the best.
Note that this is not the same thing as the best team featuring Wolverine which is in fact PRRog's team.
Plasma Beam is stupidly good for Wolverine and it's shocking that it wasn't discovered in Vanilla when almost everyone played Wolverine. It allows Wolverine to go for yolo full screen Berserker Slash to get in. If they block you get pressure because they blocked Plasma Beam... if they get hit then Plasma Beam allows conversion. It also doubles as a very good late combo extender for Wolverine. In addition, the positioning of the assist call makes it a semi defensive assist against other rushdown/heavy characters alowing Wolverine to have the last say in scramble situations (a reason why this assist is top tier as fuck).
Jam Session is also absurdly good for Wolverine. It allows for the same Tatsu style mix ups including Berserker Slash or instant overheads/fuzzies. It's an obscenely strong assist on incoming, it blocks fireballs for Wolverine and is an excellent combo extender for Wolverine. It also takes care of Wolverine's main problem which is dealing with super jump characters like Zero and Morrigan.
This one two combo of horizontal and vertical dominance makes Wolverine a major threat from various spaces and ensures maximum combo extensions. In addition, Dante's THC provides an obscene amount of lock down to open up people with while Doom has TAC option.
Both Dante and Doom can use each other's assists very well. Really though the only weakness of this team is that you have to play either Dante or Doom anchor as opposed to Vergil but for a front loaded Wolverine team this is the best.
Don't know pre-SF4 but in SF4 he always played Gief, at least that's how I remember it.
Karsticles
Member
You don't think the best Wolverine team has Mystic Ray backing him? Angelic's play makes PR Rog look cautious.
Think he used gief to win evo for HDR.
If you could have 3 assists on a team then the two I mentioned plus this would be all Wolverine needs.
Angelic uses Mystic Ray for 3 main things. Pick up after throw (both Jam Session/Plasma Beam do this), to get in with full screen Berserker Slash (Plasma Beam does this) and to pressure opponents at SJ height (which Jam Session also does just in different ways). You could also argue that Mystic Ray has the same defensive property of Plasma Beam but to that I say that Plasma Beam does it better because it's faster. Mystic Ray does not give Wolverine instant overhead/fuzzy mix ups which he wants for sure and Jam Session/Tatsu give him that.
For an optimum Wolverine team featuring Mystic Ray you need Tatsu/Jam Session assist for sure. It actually some what works out because Skuma can use Tatsu. I would still say that Doom/Dante is a bit more stable than this as you have access to superior TACs and THCs. I also feel Dante is a better anchor than all of those other support characters.
In any case the top 5 assists for Wolverine are (no order);
Tatsu
Jam Session
Plasma Beam
Mystic Ray
Drones
Honorable mention: Rocks
Drones I added an extra because the mix up potential for Wolverine if he gets you in Drones is higher than any other other assist. With those assists you generally only have to make one maybe two guesses with Drones you will have to take a minimum of two even three mix ups at a time. It allows Wolverine to go for Berserker Slash while they are locked down because of the Drones gap.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
CountBlack
Member
random: TTT2 has a great soundtrack
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Compared to T5DR it's like listening to nails on a chalkboard
sf2fanatic
Member
How's the turnout for WNF? Posting from a phone
Yeah that's what I was talking about.
Wolverine/Doom/Dante sounds pretty damn cool, though.
24 people, mostly because it's post evo and in Valle's garage.
Smug/Chris G/Snakeyez are all there, along with GAFs own simsim
Emperor Bohe
Member
LMAO at Harada at the end
not bad some heavy hitters. Smug, ChrisG, Sherry, Velociraptor, Simsim, blackskillz, ultra david (not really a heavy hitter), and some others.
direct_quote
Member
Why is it in Valle's garage?
biosnake20
Member
Wolverine/Doom/Dante is Justin White's team.
I think they started the renos on super arcade now that its the off season.
This Ultradavid/Valle Hugo mirror is pretty wacky.
WNF throwback? Didn't WNF start in Valle's garage?
The Last Emperor
Member
Shglbmx
Shouta
Member
Renovations on Super Arcade.
RockTurtle
Member
smuggles and chrisG riding together? new power duo in FGC!?
WesternHeretic
Member
I thought Chris G said he was going back to NYC. Or is he really the next Justin now?
I Disagree. TTT2 has some of my favorite tracks:
Dawn of the Beat
Night Falls
Landscape Under The Moon: Kaminano
Hall of Judgement (Vanguard Mix)
Plucking Tulips
among others... but DR was pretty amazing too.
it was insane how not 1, not even 2, but at least 3 different people were downplaying chris g's talent by claiming hidden missiles was the only thing carrying him to top 2/great placings in general. this was on gaf alone. said he'd be ass and wouldn't be winning jack all if not for the assist. straight up nonsense
Thomasorus
Member
Passive Assassin
Member
what ... what the fuck.
SquirrelSoup
Member
W-wha... HOW?
combofiend PLES
ldcommando
Banned
As if anti-airs didn´t already suck in this game, jesus christ.
That's what online play is good for
Please don't tell me I will drown in Kokos if I go online.
sixteen-bit
Member
whens ver.2015?
SquirrelSoup
Member
From my experience it's mostly Terumis.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
3s fans get their game back
.la1n
Member
It was foretold this day would come.