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[QisTopTier]

Real talk, if BBCP 2.0 isn't at EVO next year I'm going to be very disappointed.

 

[Ragingnight]

what is QC? please speak to me in the most basic terms. I dont collect so i dont know what these abbreviations and jargon mean.

what is the specific complaint about this company/their products? is this sol statue a buy or no buy?

qc = quality control. Thought that was universal.

At that price its probably not bad of a buy if you're into Sol.

http://slist.amiami.com/top/search/list?s_maker=Embrace+Japan&pagemax=20
this is other stuff they have made in the past.

In comparison, dizzy from alter is basically perfect in terms of quality

just know that, this sol is probably the best sol that will ever come out for a very long time if not ever

 

[Parallax Scroll]

Just finished watching the Justin post-EVO interview on Live on Three:

*He had been saving Storm on point against ChrisG for 6 months. He had wanted to pull out that strat against ChrisG many times at majors but he was looking at the big picture which was EVO... and it paid off big time.

*The theory behind Storm on point was that Justin wanted to deny ChrisG having meter from making Wolverine block fireballs and Missiles. Storm's superior mobility and float allows him to evade fireballs and missiles to time out the Astral Vision. He said that once the battle came down to no AV Morrigan he was comfortable in that fight because he had Akuma Tatsu and Storm's mobility. He also said that he can punish AV activation with Storm's Element super which also cuts down her AV time by 30%... it's not about the damage it's about denying ChrisG the meter which is fundamental to his team (even Vergil uses the meter).

*Justin said that he also had a bunch of strats that he only used at EVO and never before. He pointed out his various punishes on the Vergil assist against ChrisG as Wolverine and Akuma which he wasn't doing before.

*He said that he got a lot of practice with people playing Morrigan + Doom to help prep him against ChrisG at EVO. He specifically mentioned NerdJosh and Helix who helped him prepare the match up with Storm on point. He said it's really hard to find good Morrigan + Doom to practice against because only ChrisG can play it at that level.

Damn, Justin came to play.

 

[SloaneRisette]

*Justin elaborated on his "I saved Marvel" statement. He said that he wanted to make a statement that you don't need top tiers to win (he referred to Zero, Morrigan, Doom, Vergil as characters people hate seeing and thus stunting the growth of the game) and referenced other players who do extremely well despite not using those top tier characters. He said that MVC3 is an extremely creative game and he loves watching all the various techs, teams and combos.

Fuck now I sort of want to play Marvel again.

Someone stop me.

 

[FormallyFamicom]

Cool. You just have to be as good as Justin Wong to win in Marvel without top tiers!

 

[Flying High]

 

[QisTopTier]

Give me that Chocolate Mint

 

[SloaneRisette]

Damn that Foster's Freeze chocolate Sagat is OD

 

[enzo_gt]

No chocolate swirl?

fuckouttahere

 

[Smooth Operator]

That was last year. Since then Ricky has had plenty of time to play that matchup against Filipinoman. Ricky plays a pretty different sort of Rufus than JWong. Actually, as far as I'm concerned Ricky is the better Rufus between the two. But I still feel like Justin is the better overall player, if that makes any sense. You're definitely sleeping on Ricky if you think Luffy would have had that free. And I say this as a fan of the dude's Rose for a real long time now.

I'm not sleeping on Ricky, i know he's good. But Louffy was in zombie mode last year at EVO (Came to Vegas one day before EVO with jetlag, didn't slept at all) and destroyed him, and also won against Wong during Stunfest... Louffy is also better than last year too. And according to one of his friends on Twitter who was with him during EVO, Louffy was 100% sure to win against Ricky. And Filipinoman is not Louffy, they're not on the same level at all. I'm sorry but i think you're delusional to think that Ricky had a shot. But i guess we'll get a money match one day or another to prove it, and i'll put ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY on the table.

Snake Eyez, on the other hand...

 

[El Sloth]

Would main neapolitan Gat

 

[Infinite]

>"I save marvel by using low tiers"
>Plays Wolverine/Akuma

 

[Zissou]

Fuck now I sort of want to play Marvel again.

Someone stop me.

Give in to the dark side! Come back to marvel!

 

[I-hate-u]

Justin's team is older than ChrisG's....

In fact it's THE OLDEST TEAM in MVC3 that is still played competitively.

Yup. Even though it wasn't his first team, (his first was Chun/Trish/Storm), it was the team he used in the first big MVC3 tournament. But he used to also main Ammy/She-Hulk in the vanilla days.

Even though FChamp's team is pretty old too (he has been playing it since late 2011), Magneto/Doom/Phoenix was used first by Tokido I believe. He was the reason that FChamp picked up Dr.Doom.

 

[Sayah]

Cool. You just have to be as good as Justin Wong to win in Marvel without top tiers!

lol.

He proved a point regardless.

Most people will never be as good as Justin Wong but at least it served as a good, inspiring example. I would be playing UMvC3 right now if the netcode wasn't so bad.

Real talk, if BBCP 2.0 isn't at EVO next year I'm going to be very disappointed.

Considering how much money was invested by its developers this year in the tournament, I doubt you should be worried. Unless Xrd is replacing it or something?

>"I save marvel by using low tiers"
>Plays Wolverine/Akuma

Aren't Akuma/Wolverine like B+? That's not exactly top tier. Unless I have the tier setting wrong. I mean they're definitely not at the same rank as Doom and Vergil.

 

[QisTopTier]

Considering how much money was invested by its developers this year in the tournament, I doubt you should be worried. Unless Xrd is replacing it or something?

That is my major concern, I'd love both. But at the moment BBCP is the most fleshed out game they have made.

 

[SloaneRisette]

Give in to the dark side! Come back to marvel!

My horrible losses that I should've won fucking demolished my will to play is the problem.

I kind of want to just stick to USF4 for now and then P4AU and Smash 4 in the future. I'll sit on whether or not I'll drop Marvel a bit more.

 

[Dahbomb]

>"I save marvel by using low tiers"
>Plays Wolverine/Akuma

Hey man.... he won with Storm on point!

And Wolverine + Akuma is fair and balanced.

 

[Vice]

I see KOF getting dropped before BlazBlue. The anime overlap would guarantee solid numbers.

 

[Ragingnight]

well... to be fair Wolverine and akuma is a super strong shell.

Like individually, they aren't top tiers, but together they most definitely are.

 

[Zissou]

My horrible losses that I should've won fucking demolished my will to play is the problem.

This means you should play more

 

[Vice]

Wong found synergy. Most players are too focused on characters that are individually strong rather than making a good team. Wong's team, team Nemo, Team Angelic, KaneBllueRiver and MorriDoom are all examples of OK-good characters that become godlike when on a team with synergy.

But picking three top tiers works too.

 

[Infinite]

Wolverine and Akuma is mad strong a shell. Stop kidding yourselves, guys.

 

[Negaduck]

http://joebushido.deviantart.com/art/VanillaSagat-468577926

This is the best. I wish I could give this a +1 or thumbs up or like.

Today I love the internet.

 

[Dahbomb]

I was mostly kidding.

He didn't say you should be playing low tier but rather you don't need to play the 4 most hated top tier characters (Zero, Morrigan, Vergil, Doom) to win. He even referenced team Nemo which is definitely NOT a low tier team at all.

And I definitely agree that it's possible to win a major/EVO with team Nemo and other various high tier teams and characters.

 

[Ragingnight]

btw, very few matches ever in marvel get me hype like this.
Combofiend vs Chris G @ ECT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L8WAvZyv3w

 

[Sayah]

That is my major concern, I'd love both. But at the moment BBCP is the most fleshed out game they have made.

Considering TTT2 more than likely won't be there next year, there's one spot that's open. After the great finals and reception of BBCP this year, I would optimistically like to think they'll consider it for EVO 2015 as a main game.

 

[CurlyW]

Wong shares the reason why I love Marvel :blessed:

EDIT: He also pretty well understands what makes it exciting, and is on the ball about Seasons Beatings.

Just catching up now, what did Justin say about Season's Beatings?

 

[El Sloth]

I'm not sleeping on Ricky, i know he's good. But Louffy was in zombie mode last year at EVO (Came to Vegas one day before EVO with jetlag, didn't slept) and destroyed him, and yes, that's a fact. Louffy is also better than last year too. And according to one of his friends on Twitter who was with him, Louffy was sure to win against Ricky. And Filipinoman is not Louffy, they're not on the same level at all.

Brah, I never said it wasn't a fact. Of course he's better than last year. So is Ricky. So is everyone else.

Who cares what his friend on twitter said? Why would he say anything different?

No shit he's not on the same level. Every Rose player knows they're not on the same level. The point was that he is still a damn good Rose player, if a bit too yolo, and that Ricky would be more aware of what the character is capable of. Especially in Ultra.

 

[I-hate-u]

btw, very few matches ever in marvel get me hype like this.
Combofiend vs Chris G @ ECT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L8WAvZyv3w

I know that he is better off at Capcom, but damn, I want him back. He is like the perfect combination of Justin Wong's intelligence, and PR Rog's aggressiveness.

Just catching up now, what did Justin say about Season's Beatings?

He was talking about how hype the Good vs Evil exhibition was. It truly is still the best Marvel 3 exhibition till this date. We need another one.

 

[Dahbomb]

Just catching up now, what did Justin say about Season's Beatings?

He said he liked the good vs evil narrative which was the appeal of that event at Seasons Beating. He made a parallel to good vs evil in UMVC3 these days with players like FChamp playing the villain and himself playing the hero (the hero we need and deserve) that people root for.

 

[Busaiku]

The absence of Tekken next year (most likely) probably won't mean another ArcSys game, but more likely just fewer games.

 

[El Sloth]

He said he liked the good vs evil narrative which was the appeal of that event at Seasons Beating. He made a parallel to good vs evil in UMVC3 these days with players like FChamp playing the villain and himself playing the hero (the hero we need and deserve) that people root for.

Just to add, he specifically mentioned a 5v5 between Phoenix players and non-Phoenix players.

 

[petghost]

That is my major concern, I'd love both. But at the moment BBCP is the most fleshed out game they have made.

Dno about most fleshed out game but certainly the best iteration of BB by a long shot. Really figured some shit out.

Evo never gonna run 2 anime games let's get real. It seems like they only run 1 begrudgingly despite solid turn out.

 

[Chavelo]

I don't think he meant that his team was "low tier" but more of a "not used often" team. There's a ton of shells and team combinations that can give you results this early in the game, but I guess his point was that he didn't like that people already decided on four characters when the game can still provide more.

That's why Marvel 3 is better than Marvel 2. The top tier may still be there, but the gap between top (read: used often cause easy mode) and middle (need neutral) are not very far apart.

 

[CurlyW]

Characters that have won Evo in (U)MvC3:

• Wesker
• Haggar
• Phoenix
• Magneto
• Dormammu
• Doctor Doom
• Zero
• Vergil
• Hawkeye
• Wolverine
• Storm
• Akuma

 

[Sheroking]

well... to be fair Wolverine and akuma is a super strong shell.

Like individually, they aren't top tiers, but together they most definitely are.

I don't know about top tier. When you look at Morrigan with missiles, Zero with jam session or even Wolverine with Plasma beam, you see some really oppressive/cheap stuff.

With Tatsu, you still need to do the work to get in and lock them down, which is tougher than it sounds with air mobility being so dominant in this game. Which is probably why there is one high level Wolverine/Akuma player.

I think it's probably a mid-high tier team based on chemistry and not the sum of it's parts. If Wolverine dies, Justin has no business fighting most of these top-tier teams. He does and wins anyway because Justin Wong.

It's clear you're not going to win with Ghost Rider and Phoenix Wright. I don't think he was saying that.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Just to add, he specifically mentioned a 5v5 between Phoenix players and non-Phoenix players.

That's a really good idea, i'd love to see that.

Or they could clone Chris G for a 5v5 between Chris Gs and other players

 

[Zissou]

I think people are too hung up on marvel 2's four viable character thing, and were too quick to jump the gun and try to 'make' marvel 3 into the same thing.

 

[WesternHeretic]

btw, very few matches ever in marvel get me hype like this.
Combofiend vs Chris G @ ECT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L8WAvZyv3w

Real talk if Combo never worked for Capcom the 4 gods of Marvel would be Justin, Champ, Chris, and Combo.

100% sure.

And Li Joe made the most convincing argument ever of in favor or rigged brackets lmao. He rigged the shit out of that top 8 bracket, and it worked perfectly.

 

[GhostRidah]

Good to see Sanford turning a new leaf, all he needs to do is keep positive, work for his sponsor, and help the scene grow, and things will get better.

The look on Henry's face when Sanford sat down with him lmao!

 

[SolarKnight]

That is my major concern, I'd love both. But at the moment BBCP is the most fleshed out game they have made.

Not to mention there's also P4U2. Future tournament numbers will have to be strong to prevent this "1 anime game only" thing from continuing and giving BB a spot again because I just don't see Xrd not getting the "obligatory anime game" slot next year.

 

[Deckard Cain]

Are people here really trying to say Justin's team is not top tier? He has the second best point character with it's best assist & one of the best dhcs & thcs in the game.

 

[Rhapsody]

qc = quality control. Thought that was universal.

At that price its probably not bad of a buy if you're into Sol.

http://slist.amiami.com/top/search/list?s_maker=Embrace+Japan&pagemax=20
this is other stuff they have made in the past.

In comparison, dizzy from alter is basically perfect in terms of quality


just know that, this sol is probably the best sol that will ever come out for a very long time if not ever

Ugh, I still really want that Dizzy figure. If only the Rachel one looked as nice, then I'd want both.

They also have Dizzy's alt color too.

Spoiler

I want both

Edit: IIRC, the DIzzy one did sell out. Alter did a reprint. (this is to the convo way way back)

 

[Onemic]

Good to see Sanford turning a new leaf, all he needs to do is keep positive, work for his sponsor, and help the scene grow, and things will get better.

The look on Henry's face when Sanford sat down with him lmao!

I reallly wanted him to go in on Triforce, just so that we would see if these 'files' he keeps talking about are true or not.

 

[Dahbomb]

Characters that have won Evo in (U)MvC3:

• Wesker
• Haggar
• Phoenix
• Magneto
• Dormammu
• Doctor Doom
• Zero
• Vergil
• Hawkeye
• Wolverine
• Storm
• Akuma

Basically 3 unique characters for every EVO.

Now we just need Yipes/Nemo, Bee, GC Yoshi, KBR etc to win the next one!


If Yipes gets motivated as hard as Justin did for the past year he can certainly be a contender for EVO. But he needs to grind hard like Justin did which means traveling and competing a lot.

 

[GhostRidah]

I reallly wanted him to go in on Triforce, just so that we would see if these 'files' he keeps talking about are true or not.

He should just forget Triforce completely, keep his nose out of all that nonsense, gets him nowhere.

 

[QisTopTier]

Not to mention there's also P4U2. Future tournament numbers will have to be strong to prevent this "1 anime game only" thing from continuing and giving BB a spot again because I just don't see Xrd not getting the "obligatory anime game" slot next year.

Yup that's my concern, typically what ever the newest Arc Sys game is gets to be the only game that gets put into Evo

 

[petghost]

has anyone done a tier list for common marvel teams? seems like it would be a cool thing to do as a tier list comprised of individual characters doesnt really give you the whole picture.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

I don't think he meant that his team was "low tier" but more of a "not used often" team. There's a ton of shells and team combinations that can give you results this early in the game, but I guess his point was that he didn't like that people already decided on four characters when the game can still provide more.

That's why Marvel 3 is better than Marvel 2. The top tier may still be there, but the gap between top (read: used often cause easy mode) and middle (need neutral) are not very far apart.

How did your money match go?