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Fighting Games Weekly | March 3-9 | Edition Edition
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It was dropped for myriad reasons. It wasn't an easy decision and MLG even supported the community for quite some time after they dropped the games from their main circuit. MLG is not the devil despite what a lot of childish idiots in the FGC want to desperately believe. The decision to drop Smash was not arbitrary.
ah, feelsad.jpg for beef. he probably knows he plays t hawk
Aris is testing out the SC2 HD Online patch now -- http://www.twitch.tv/avoidingthepuddle
smug vs silk right now
http://www.twitch.tv/aquasilk
http://www.twitch.tv/aquasilk
behave yo self
undersakura
Neo Member
I haven't seen anyone say they're evil. The criticism I've seen is that their events are so sterilized and there's no hype.
I don't know much about the Smash community other than what was shown in the documentary which implied that the scene cratered after they dropped Smash.
DryEyeRelief
Member
Having too many things to do commentary on. I don't think that problem is unique to Marvel at all as a fighting game and he's using it as a scapegoat to hear "you hate to see this type of thing happen" and "ooh" ad nauseum. His second point contracts the first. Either marvel is filled with situations that speak for itself, which allows for commentators to further elaborate, or it's filled with fast paced nuanced situations that are hard to illustrate in a single instance. Which is it?
I would rather hear a well written post on why two color commentators is preferable. Would it have been better if Genesis and Rynge were kicked off and we put Tasty Steve.... and a clone of Tasty Steve to double up on memes?
RockTurtle
Member
i was promised smug. i no see no smug
you missed it bro
they found each other on online ranked. silk beat him
Two "hype" commentators for Marvel doesn't end up working except in the case of Yipes/Matrix (and even then both give some insightful stuff in between the "oohs"). Remember when Tasty Steve and Yipes did Marvel? It wasn't good.
One insightful and one hype commentator is the way to go... always. It's why Magus and Yipes has worked so well at EVO for two years straight. The dream team is Ryan Hunter and Yipes though... that guy takes insightful Marvel to a new level.
And I don't get the hate for insightful Marvel commentary. Not everyone is a brain dead Marvel minion looking for their daily fix of salt and hype. There's a ton of stuff that gets over looked in a match that is extremely high level or specific that deserves to get mentioned. At least that's something which Genesis does well like how he was calling out the specific escapes for the Firebrand set up and not chalking it up to "oh FChamp got out, I guess he got lucky".
One insightful and one hype commentator is the way to go... always. It's why Magus and Yipes has worked so well at EVO for two years straight. The dream team is Ryan Hunter and Yipes though... that guy takes insightful Marvel to a new level.
And I don't get the hate for insightful Marvel commentary. Not everyone is a brain dead Marvel minion looking for their daily fix of salt and hype. There's a ton of stuff that gets over looked in a match that is extremely high level or specific that deserves to get mentioned. At least that's something which Genesis does well like how he was calling out the specific escapes for the Firebrand set up and not chalking it up to "oh FChamp got out, I guess he got lucky".
MLG had King of Fighters and MK9. One of which has a total of 10 players in North America and the other, while a decent sized community, was nowhere near popular.
They're a business, they have to pick up games that can generate them some revenue. The only people that bring up that complaint is people salty about how Halo got demoted from flagship for Starcraft, or how Halo got replaced by CoD.
Oh and the Melee "stream" was a live feed update so they dropped it. Why bother having a game if you can't stream it? No one cares since no one can watch.
Well, the hype thing is absolute nonsense. In regards to Smash in particular. Watch the documentary you referenced again. Melee consistently brought the house down when it was on the circuit. Even the Halo 2 kids were constantly talking about the game in articles. I'm pretty sure there's even a scene in the doc where you can barely hear Wife commentating because the venue is so loud.
"Cratered"? Scene did no such thing. The Melee scene suffered for an interval for a bit due to the release of Brawl but that was about it. MLG had its negative effects in regards to where people wanted to see the game take the community. but it never did anything close to "cratering" it after company cut them loose.
SloaneRisette
Member
But Chris G is Cali now!
Exactly! Even more now that Chris is not there to kill their scene
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Who's everyone looking forward to trying out in GGXrd?
I guess my top 3 would be;
1. Ramlethal/Ramletherl Valentine
Practically guaranteed for the console release. I like everything about her design and from the little footage I've seen she seems like a rushdown character that uses her balloon/swords for pressure/oki (maybe?) and some zoning. I have no doubt she will be nerfed in playable status as boss characters normally are but I've always chosen characters based on how much I like them first before anything else so I don't think that will be an issue.
2. Potemkin
Potemkin looks pretty fun as a grappler. Usually I gravitate away from them but he looks really fun to play (can combo into his grabs!). I also like when he says "HEAT EXTEND" during that one hand anti air grab move.
3. Ky Kiske
I love everything about Ky's design here. Just his looks and voice alone tell me that he's the idealist swordsman type and I think it's pulled off really well here. Not to mention that he has my favourite theme so far in the game. I don't know who his VA is but I love his voice. Every one of his battle lines sounds like they have just the right amount of timbre. I haven't seen it used too often but I love when Ky players make use of his "RIDE THE LIGHTNING" super. His playstyle seems to be fairly straightforward but I've seen some interesting use of his tools in arcade footage.
I guess my top 3 would be;
1. Ramlethal/Ramletherl Valentine
Practically guaranteed for the console release. I like everything about her design and from the little footage I've seen she seems like a rushdown character that uses her balloon/swords for pressure/oki (maybe?) and some zoning. I have no doubt she will be nerfed in playable status as boss characters normally are but I've always chosen characters based on how much I like them first before anything else so I don't think that will be an issue.
2. Potemkin
Potemkin looks pretty fun as a grappler. Usually I gravitate away from them but he looks really fun to play (can combo into his grabs!). I also like when he says "HEAT EXTEND" during that one hand anti air grab move.
3. Ky Kiske
I love everything about Ky's design here. Just his looks and voice alone tell me that he's the idealist swordsman type and I think it's pulled off really well here. Not to mention that he has my favourite theme so far in the game. I don't know who his VA is but I love his voice. Every one of his battle lines sounds like they have just the right amount of timbre. I haven't seen it used too often but I love when Ky players make use of his "RIDE THE LIGHTNING" super. His playstyle seems to be fairly straightforward but I've seen some interesting use of his tools in arcade footage.
Ky. I like boring, shoto-esque characters. :V
Also I tried playing Dizzy in AC and I couldn't figure out how to time basic oki lol.
theprodigy
Member
Melee's best year before 2013 was 2007, the year after it was technically "dropped" from MLG (who still ran some grassroots tournaments)
2008-early 2009 was where it nearly died off
Edit: Funny thing about Brawl at MLG was that it happened to be in a year with nothing else but a dying Halo 3 and....Tekken I think (something with awful entrants), making it the most hype somehow.
bet you never heard the words "Brawl" and "hype" in the same sentence before did you
definitely going back to millia in Xrd. dat graceful movement tickles my fancy
Unlike Blazblue i feel guilty lets me just try characters and press buttons with out me being particularly proficient with them or having to study a breadth of tutorials. I'll probably just try out the whole casts (except potemkim)
Unlike Blazblue i feel guilty lets me just try characters and press buttons with out me being particularly proficient with them or having to study a breadth of tutorials. I'll probably just try out the whole casts (except potemkim)
Ky's number 1 for me. He's been one of my mains (along with Dizzy). There's too many I want to try out. Next is Venom because Venom's awesome. 3rd, I dunno. I would've said Valentine before I saw what her boss version looked like. Wasn't expecting giant swords. I really want to learn them all down the road.
lol a Kokonoe just got bodied on Art's stream. commentator was going nuts
http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby
if anyone wants to watch
http://www.twitch.tv/nycfurby
if anyone wants to watch
SousedLouse
Member
I-No, if the reports about how she's easier to use are accurate. I've always wanted to play with her, but the timing on her combos and tricks are too strict for me.
I'm also looking forward to seeing what Bedman's all about. I like characters with big, solid hitboxes, and Bedman seems to fit that niche quite well.
And if any other characters make it in before the home port, I'll probably give them a shot as well.
BaroqueSampson
Member
Burn the heretic
CrazyTank940
Member
Probably still gonna mainly roll with Sol/Potemkin/I-No like I do in AC+/+R. I-No's a strange case where she's way too hard for me to use seriously, but for just basic matches with friends, she's fun to mess around with. Since it seems they're making her a little easier to approach now, that only gets me more hyped. Also Sol having a divekick now and Potemkin looking like Panzerfaust are both hype too
Chipp =|
Bridget's coming man don't worry
Karsticles
Member
I will play Eddie, but I usually use Dizzy and Testament.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Yeah he's been real solid for a while. He's been making BlazBlue look real free since he stopped messing with Izayoi
Deckard Cain
Banned
No one. None of the characters I wanted to play returned in XRD.
theprodigy
Member
what's this about Blazblue: Kokonoephantasma?
don't kill me pls
RaynerWolf
Member
For me it would be Bedman, Potemkin, and Faust. I enjoyed playing Potemkin and Faust in previous versions and Bedman seems pretty fun so I really wanna give him a shot.
sixteen-bit
Member
godlike
dat lag doe
Google translate gives me "resume"? I assume it means best wishes moving forward?
As much as I don't like top EC talent moving to the WC, I don't think there's any "taking" per se. If a person feels their life is going to be bettered by relocating, then I wish them the best.
undersakura
Neo Member
If it was so hype why did they drop it? Did people stop going to their events- if so why? I think MLG is a great organization but at the end of the day they have their own self interests and aren't the most reliable/supportive actors when it comes to the FG scene.
Wow the scene has come a long way haha. Praise the based stream gods.