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[Busaiku]

Just 10 things that popped into my head in no particular order. I struggled to find 5 for this gen.

See, I played most of those games, and most of the stuff people would typically list as their tops from that gen, and I definitely feel like stuff like the games from last gen hold up really well.
But then people list their tops from last gen, and I barely played any of them.

Maybe it's because most people chose to focus on 360/PS3, whereas I mostly focused on Wii/DS/PSP.

 

[K.Sabot]

Like seriously, I even left out pc games / fighting games in that very cursory list.

That generation was the dopest.

 

[Silky]

So never criticize a culture you're a part of. Got it.


*rollseyes*

you care more about bitching about the meta instead of just enjoying games lol. stop getting caught up in the hyperbole. branch out. take suggestions from folks you know. gaming industry's huge. having a 'narrowed/specific' taste in this age is deadly.


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if you just come with the mentality of enjoying a game instead of worrying about who's making it or what it'll look like or /who'/ the type of people are that are enjoying them then shit like browsing message boards would be a lot easier

3rd Strike dawg



.......I hate 3S so fucking much, yet put 1000's of hours into it.

so is Marvel the 3S of our generation

 

[The Mango Sentinel]

I wish I knew what the greatest fighting game of all time was

3rd Strike dawg



.......I hate 3S so fucking much, yet put 1000's of hours into it.

 

[Riposte]

I don't find this insulting. But maybe you thought the people in here would because half the time the are like OMG OMG OBS OR OMG OMG HE SAID AND OMGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH shit :lol

That wasn't from my gut. In general, I hold back a lot when I see people whose opinions I value (in a specific context, likely) do things I really don't like. I'm always at least a little frustrated with everyone, save a few people, on GAF.

I mean, sure, there are the usual grave disagreements on what is good game design (some of which I think are hopelessly misguided or downright toxic and will always be ready to argue) that lead people into saying certain games are bad (or certain games are better), but what's more aggravating are what are flawed fundamental aspects of one's character, namely, I see resentment (which is what jadedness is). Those circus of the stupid weekly videogame scandal threads are just that; if you let that shit affect you, you are fucking up as a human being. It's the same with people bitter about the direction their favorite franchises/brands (if not the perceived direction of a entire region or the medium) have went or what have you. I mean, a part of this is that they may have deified these earlier games (making them "transcendental") to a point that is also unhealthy, which is another thing I also really dislike.

And the reason I hold back is less about being banned as it is believing you need some sense of politeness to make any discussion worthwhile and pleasant (and I like to think I'm a polite, despite saying enough things where I think people of all tastes should feel antagonized). So all the more frustrating when you go into a thread with a game that's popular to hate (or has a developer or publisher that's popular to hate) and just see people get shit on for being the wrong side of populous (and mods). Videogame discussion gets replaced by statements repeated until they become assumed truths, mockery, and animated gifs. And I don't even have to like these games for it to piss me off (e.g., FFXIII and sequels have the most toxic threads, just drowning with resentment and spite).

I could attempt to explain my entire point of view here, but I probably won't do it well, so I'm just trying to get across how unsightly I find many of the most popular mindsets of this forum is and I'm annoyed because I feel like they move us away from just looking at a game and judging it. People are too caught up in whatever zeitgeist they think rule the day. This includes, just looking around, "games are becoming movies", "Japanese games are getting worse" (i.e., nostalgia), "Japanese games were/are archaic", "AAA vs. indie", etc. (Each of these would likely be their own argument based on those mentioned grave disagreements, even after you remove the resentment involved.) Assuming you recognize me, even when I trashing the "indie" (or "art") brand as I often do, which you may think seems hypocritical given what I'm saying here, I'm usually attempting to dissolve an underlining reaction to some other type of game (e.g., "AAA", "unartistic" games).

EDIT: It is annoying when you are talking about flaws and people with those flaws agree with you. Stop! I'm criticizing you.

 

[Astarte]

i liked killer is dead

I really liked it too, enough for at least 3 playthroughs. It's really a shame that it had to be caught up in all of that stupidity before its release.

 

[atomic moth]

This is all very funny and all but what the fuck is a scholia?

 

[Kimosabae]

"you care more about bitching about the meta instead of just enjoying games lol."

Yeah. I actually do. Culture is important to me. Sociology is interesting to me. Moral implications capable of being abstracted from any social phenomenon stimulates me. Have you never read any of my posts?


If the idea of someone leveling a critical hatchet to your culture bothers you then I implore that you to put me on ignore.

 

[Clawww]

I really liked it too, enough for at least 3 playthroughs. It's really a shame that it had to be caught up in all of that stupidity before its release.

haha, I forgot all about that. the amount of nonsense it generated was kind of funny considering how niche it was destined to be anyways.

 

[Dahbomb]

So never criticize a culture you're a part of. Got it.

*rollseyes*

You can criticize it just fine, it's just that you missing out on enjoyment of a game because other people are enjoying it too much is a hilarious notion to me.

And I didn't say you take games seriously... I said you take people and gamers (who take games seriously) too seriously. Your previous post pretty much proved it.

What's the top 10 from 2 gens ago?
Cause I definitely don't feel that way at all.

Too many to list but just a primer:

1) RE4: Pretty much demolishes most of the 3rd person shooter/survival action type games of this gen. Way better than RE5/RE6 and is a template for TloU (and I would rate RE4 better than TloU for sure). A ton of games this gen modeled themselves after RE4.

2) Half Life 2: Enough said. A high achievement in video game level design.

3) Diablo 2: Still the best loot based RPG game ever made. Both PoE and D3 try to be like D2 but they just fall just short.

4) World of Warcraft : I am not personally big into WoW but its impact on the industry is massive. Pretty much every modern day MMO takes off of WoW.

5) GTA3: Pretty much started the whole open world sandbox type game play and started the GTA franchise. So many open world type game rip shit off of GTA3.

6) Shadow of the Colossus/ICO : A great example of marrying game play with strong but subtle narrative as well as excellent art direction and emotional core. People gave Journey GOTY in this generation when it pales in comparison to something like SOTC.

7) DMC1/DMC3SE/Ninja Gaiden : ENOUGH FUCKING SAID SON!

8) Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution, Soul Calibur, TTT/T5 : Pretty much the prime of 3D fighters was in the last generation. Hell you can make the case that "anime" fighting game started with Guilty Gear last gen.

9) Viewtiful Joe/Okami/Godhand : Clover games are the type of mid tier games I am talking about that used to be prevalent but not anymore. No studio would risk these types of games except Nintendo on Platinum games. I would take these games over Wonderful 101 any time of the day (and W101 is still a good game).

10) Halo 1/Metroid Prime/SOCOM/COD2 : This was the start of the shooter phenomenon. Each of these games brought something good to the table. SOCOM was the first good military shooter and Halo made console shooters a thing.


And I missed a shit ton of great games from last gen like MGS2/MGS3, Kingdom Hearts, Shadow Hearts, Monster Hunter, Riddick, Prince of Persia, KOTOR, FFX/FFXII, REmake, Zelda WW, MVC2, CvS2, DOTA 1/WC3 etc. I honestly cannot think of 10 games that compare to those 10 games respectively speaking. Maybe Minecraft and the Souls games.

 

[Silky]

If the idea of someone leveling a critical hatchet to your culture bothers than I implore you to put me on ignore.

lol i couldn't care less about it, more power to you homie. you're just forcing yourself from playing a lot of quality material in the end.

i used to do that with music. just hated the people/criticized people who listened to music different than my preferences. know what I did?

I grew up

 

[theprodigy]

the ignore function is for the weak

 

[Kimosabae]

Fuck it, I'm taking the higher ground.


*Dahbomb activates Spiral Swords*

lol i couldn't care less about it, more power to you homie. you're just forcing yourself from playing a lot of quality material in the end.

i used to do that with music. just hated the people/criticized people who listened to music different than my preferences. know what I did?

I grew up

Yeah that's a sick story but I have no clue what it has to do with me.

Grats on the adulthood, though!

 

[enzo_gt]

Did the guy that masturbates to the thought of writing the scholia to UMVC3: Band-Aid Edition's Brady guide just tell me I take video games too seriously?


Fuck outta here.

"you care more about bitching about the meta instead of just enjoying games lol."

Yeah. I actually do. Culture is important to me. Sociology is interesting to me. Moral implications capable of being abstracted from any social phenomenon stimulates me. Have you never read any of my posts?

If the idea of someone leveling a critical hatchet to your culture bothers you then I implore that you to put me on ignore.

So you prefer to masturbate to the culture at large rather than just UMvC3? I mean, there are simpler ways of getting your fetish across without being a dick to someone else's interests. I mean we're all adults, so let's act like them. No need to sit on your high horse if you're incapable of being able to discuss anything civilly.

This discussion has probably gone far enough in the FGW thread.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

dabomb, did you almost call somebody out on a hipster mentality? lol, come on man!!

There's tons of "i've been saying this or that since this time or that time. before you" and "old stuff is better, new stuff sucks" in this thread, and gaf in general.

There's damn hipster mentality, indie band mentality all over this damn place! What annoys me about FGC people and gamers in general (and movie buffs I guess) if that something has to obviously suck if I don't like it, or this is best or worst ever. No middle ground, no rational thinking like, this is good, I just don't enjoy it.

I mean people joke around here, but I seriously think some people walk around really thinking like this.

I want to make my kusoge fighter list. It will be all hipster. I need t ponder on it.

 

[Parallax Scroll]

Northern Battles 10 - SSF4, Random Select UMVC3 and UMVC3 Singles

http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers

 

[Silky]

when's mahve--

thanks parallax scroll

 

[K.Sabot]

the ignore function is for the weak

I only do it to see how many posts are in a thread without certain posters.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

I'd just like to point out that all of my posts are to be read in Deckard Cain's voice.

I thought it was Gouken

 

[Dahbomb]

dabomb, did you almost call somebody out on a hipster mentality? lol, come on man!!

I did and I feel I used it appropriately.

"I don't like this game because this game is popular and the people who like this game like it too much"

I don't know how else to describe this other than "hipster". Even saying this is hipster mentality is giving it too much credit... hipsters are at least known for their independent thinking, this is just a type of low level thinking where you are doing the OPPOSITE of what is popular on purpose as some sort of ego trip.


If saying I liked the stuff from a generation ago more than this generation makes me a hipster then call me a hipster too.. I don't give a fuck. But I personally will not skip out on a potentially good game just because of its fanbase or people hyping it too much.

 

[The Mango Sentinel]

What's weird is that I can't put fighting games on any top whatever lists. I usually have to put them in their own list. Anytime someone asks me my favorite games of a generation, I never put fighting games on it. I guess it's because if I did include fighting games then they would always fill out the entire list.

 

[K.Sabot]

Getting invested in Nerd Culture =/= being a hipster about nerd culture.

What's weird is that I can't put fighting games on any top whatever lists. I usually have to put them in their own list. Anytime someone asks me my favorite games of a generation, I never put fighting games on it. I guess it's because if I did include fighting games then they would always fill out the entire list.

Either that or the salt holds them back. I woulda put SF4 higher on my list if not for the Sagat salt.

 

[theprodigy]

hey I put Melee up on my top games list

anyway I'd just like to say one thing about this incredibly long tangent:
This is all your fault, Kadey.

 

[The Mango Sentinel]

Northern Battles 10 - SSF4, Random Select UMVC3 and UMVC3 Singles

http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers

Love random select Marvel

 

[irfaanator]

we're pretty hip in the fgc thread. we don't even play fighting games

 

[Kimosabae]

I did and I feel I used it appropriately.

"I don't like this game because this game is popular and the people who like this game like it too much"

I don't know how else to describe this other than "hipster". Even saying this is hipster mentality is giving it too much credit... hipsters are at least known for their independent thinking, this is just a type of low level thinking where you are doing the OPPOSITE of what is popular on purpose as some sort of ego trip.

If that's what you got from my statements you're daft as hell.

Let me ask you a more fundamental question: does "social cognition" mean anything to you?

All I wanted to highlight is that there is often a backlash applied to entertainment products with hype attached to them. On GAF we see it all the time. Part of why that backlash exists is because hype can color a person's perception of something's quality. "Duh", right? The problem comes in when more fruitful discussion about a product, say, TLOU, gets shived, shafted and shirked by distractions created by the pushback community. It's nothing but a distraction because there's no objective measure for something being "overrated". It's a discussion without meaning, surrounding a word that is just as meaningless. Hyperbole does a disservice to the game and to the discussions surrounding it by giving that petty non-conformity power and a wave to ride.

TLOU is quite popular and it is my game of 2013. I mentioned that I managed to play through it after I got away from the discussions. How you get "hipster mentality" from that is beyond me.


Yeah, you can say I take these things "too seriously" but that's not even an insult to me. My charge is that some of you don't take these discussions seriously enough.

 

[Omega]

bunch of words.

GTA3 isn't even the best 6th gen GTA

 

[K.Sabot]

Top 5 Fighting games of PS2/GC/Xbox gen. My opinion.

1. Melty Blood
2. Melee
3. CvS2
4. KoF XI
5. GGX2 if it counts the updates

Edit: nevermind t5 I liked dark ressurection and I think that was ps3 only on consoles.

 

[SousedLouse]

LMAO @ Kimo's post, dude needs to take a chill pill. A perfect case of taking people and their hobbies too seriously. Honestly skipping out on games because of hype is reaching hipster level of mentality... no offense. I mean where the hell would I be if I didn't buy into the DMC1 hype.... I wouldn't be on this forum!

I disagree, and I think Kimosabae has a valid point. If one uses impressions from other people to suss out interesting games (like Kimosabae seems to), then the ongoing discussion about a game can affect how you approach it, play it, contextualize it, etc. Laughing at the hyperbole doesn't always help - sometimes it just pops up in the back of your head when you get to the relevant parts of a game, like a bad rash, and it just sours everything. If the hype surrounding a game is full of shit, then it gets in the way because you have to separate the shit from everything else - and at that point, you might as well just skip it altogether, move onto the next thing, and get back to it later once you've run out of new stuff to try.

I'm biased, though - I have a similar hangup. Part of why I used to keep up with current releases was because I liked talking about new releases with other people. Since my RL friends buy stuff in scattershot (aside from fighting games), I figured GAF would be a decent alternative because it moves so fast. That went straight out of the window once I actually started posting on GAF because of the exact cycle of hyperbole and contrarianism that Kimosabae mentioned.
And when it's not that, it's the victim complexes, or the circle-jerks, or the constant mugging for quotes and reaction gifs - the sort of stuff that's on all nerd forums, but amplified hundreds of times on this one because of GAF's large userbase. It's not even worth it to focus on the discussions that I can tolerate, because everything spills over into everything at some point on these boards. The bullshit makes me sick to my stomach, and sometimes I just take breaks from GAF because I can't be bothered to read it - even in the Weekly threads, since it's just as much a part of GAF as other threads.

 

[Riposte]

Love random select Marvel

It would be more entertaining if it didn't drop the level of play so low.

 

[JDdelphin]

It would be more entertaining if it didn't drop the level of play so low.

Give it ten years or so...

 

[Anne]

In fighting game news, I played some of the better TN players last night in SF4 for FR prep. I forget how much fun that game is until I get to play the high level footsie minds games, it feels so good. I won't be going but we got a couple sleepers that might do well, they just need that tournament XP.

 

[Kimosabae]

Thank you Souse. "Contextualize" is just the word I was struggling to find and couldn't.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

I have a list now!, it's the FGs I play alot of single player/arcade mode and never really against anybody else, but I wish I did.

1. Cyberbots
2. Breakers Revenge
3. Samurai Shodown (all of them, but mostly 2 and 6).
4. MSH vs SF
5. Rumble Fish

Ones I am just happy playing just SP/Arcade mode for some reason and don't really want/feel a need to play other people, lol

1. DOA 5
2. MK9/Injustice
3. Battle Fantasia
4. Rabbit
5. HnK/Basara X (tie)

I wish spooky would do a sega saturn night and just stream and play some of those fighting games, waku waku, rabbit, last bronx, whatevers.

 

[The Mango Sentinel]

If that's what you got from my statements you're daft as hell.



TLOU is quite popular and it is my game of 2013. How you get "hipster mentality" from that is beyond me.


Yeah, you can say I take these things "too seriously" but that's not even an insult to me. My charge is that some of you don't take these discussions seriously enough.

Don't really want to get into this convo so I'll make it brief. It did seem like you said you almost didn't play TLoU because of gaf hype(rbole). Don't know why that would stop you from playing it, unless you fear it wouldn't live up because it was overhyped.

It's probably the reason I didn't enjoy Half-Life 2 as much as most.

EDIT: Awww.....they aren't' playing random anymore. Yay for Zero movies.

 

[Dahbomb]

GTA3 isn't even the best 6th gen GTA

It was just an example of a game that "started it all". It might not be the best GTA game but it's the most important one.

If that's what you got from my statements you're daft as hell.

WWWAAAIIIITT A MINUTE....

I thought you were gonna take the high road?

And since you asked where I got that from, it's from here:

It's off-putting to balanced people and it makes it impossible to enjoy something on its own merits. I almost refused to play TLOU for this very reason and I often ignore plenty of other things because of it

Cool you were able to rise above your pettiness to play and enjoy a good game. Still one has to wonder how many games you ignored or skipped out on due to internet hyperbole.

For the record, I do not disagree with your view on video game conformity. The whole hype/marketing cycle is pretty off putting which is why the core of the good discussion on GAF happens in the older OTs where the hype phase has passed (like the Marvel OT which is a good place for solid game related discussion). Unfortunately, threads like these have slow activity and thus aren't at the forefront of GAF discussion even relegated to the community section aka the forum graveyard. With console wars gearing up, most of GAF is littered with console fanboy bull shit so it's best to stay clear of stuff like that.

Why do you think I come here to post? It's to avoid the general GAF stuff. Even if I avoid the hype cycle, I do not avoid playing games. I play my Tomb Raiders, my Striders... hell I will probably end up playing Titanfall too.


Now about your part about social cognition especially when it comes to video games... no it does not interest me too deeply and you are right I don't take it too seriously. I honestly don't know what would happen to me if I did take it too seriously... I would probably end up playing fewer games.

If you want to have deep, thoughtful game discussion then you can post here. I always try to participate in these discussions here. Someone asks a legitimate question, I am one of the first persons to answer. IMO it's better to make an effort to improve things rather than sit back in an arm chair pointing out problems.

 

[Kimosabae]

Don't really want to get into this convo so I'll make it brief. It did seem like you said you almost didn't play TLoU because of gaf hype(rbole). Don't know why that would stop you from playing it, unless you fear it wouldn't live up because it was overhyped.

It's probably the reason I didn't enjoy Half-Life 2 as much as most.

EDIT: Awww.....they aren't' playing random anymore. Yay for Zero movies.

I did say this. The reason why the hyperbole got to me so much is because I saw the game's potential to be something very special - but it doesn't have to be the best game ever made x however many GAF posts claiming this for it to be special. I'm very picky about games that I play that aren't FGs because I play games outside that genre not very often.

TLOU has so many moments that could be considered personal, I could sense that from how Naughty Dog were pitching the game. I felt the GAF hype train was infringing on that, causing me to lose interest in it - so I made the decision to not care about the discussions rather than not care about the game.

Bioshock Infinite was the game that taught me to stay away from media PR and forum discussion regarding certain experiences. I liked the story because I'm a wannabe physics nut but I couldn't stand anything else about that game, and impressions I read set my expectations very high.

 

[Flying High]

My top 10 in no order(from the last 14 years) because everyone is doing it:

RE4
MW2(Multiplayer)
TLoU
Bayonetta
Rock Band(1,2, and 3)
Catherine
The Walking Dead
Guitar Hero 2
Metal Gear Solid 3
Elite Beat Agents

 

[Dahbomb]

You have to figure out which GAF users have interests that line up with yours and take their impressions over the general impressions.

Like I would probably take ViewtifulJC's impressions on Ninja Gaiden Z over let's say that MYE guy.

Bioshock Infinite was the game that taught me to stay away from media PR and forum discussion regarding certain experiences.

You know what game that was for me?

DMC2. It pretty much taught me that the media is fed PR non sense and given selective screen shots/videos that are potentially doctored/altered along with various promises. There is no fucking way a normal human being can say that DMC2 was anything like DMC1 by playing it for more than 5 minutes.

Think of it like this way... you are in a poverty stricken area and there is a hoard of hungry people pouncing on any meal they can get (let's call them game journalists). Some out of town walks in with a piece of meat, the people eat it up and hype it up (oh man this is the best meat ever). Then the new guy says "just wait for the main dish, you will love it!" and then make claims like "this piece of meat was well done, wait until you eat our medium rare full steak"... the hungry guys salivate at the thought and their judgment is impaired. Then the time comes to pay up... the hungry people pay up for a steak that is filled on the inside with shit and they then riot.

Game journalists (and gamers too) are hungry and the PR people know how to play the game.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

I can't say I've ever not played a game because of what fans have said. What they think is not relevant to me, in the sense that I take hyperbole and hype for what it is, which are a way to show how much anticipation people have for it. If you can't enjoy a game that other people make a lot of hype posts for then you should probably avoid such threads which usually can be identified from the title alone or the first few posts.

Legitimate discussion or criticism threads getting de-railed is an issue for moderation, as far as I am aware gaming isn't unique in this regard. Detractors of highly anticipated products can be targets for those with hype blinders on, especially if there are any sentences or use of words that could be construed as something overtly negative (in their eyes which could mean anything really).

Like with all things, if you want nuanced and extrapolated opinions then you'll probably need to do some searching and avoid the hype fodder threads. I find that in community threads people are usually open to explaining themselves if you ask for a detailed review/preview.

Simple fact of the matter is also that detailed explanations are hard, while making one line sentences are not. Ultimately I'm not sure I can sympathize with someone who won't play a game because others have displayed a large amount of hyperbolic praise for it. The tools are there to avoid such things and to find people who are interested in explaining why they like the game in question in detail. If there's anything I got wrong here it's because my memory is terrible and I can't remember what's in your post.

Here's one and a half hours of Bedman.

 

[theprodigy]

You have to figure out which GAF users have interests that line up with yours and take their impressions over the general impressions.

Like I would probably take ViewtifulJC's impressions on Ninja Gaiden Z over let's say that MYE guy.

that guy is annoying

That is all I have to add to this discussion.

 

[Dahbomb]

Another thing that sort of got way too prevalent in this generation was planted shills or PR folk masquerading as normal gamers. Everyone knew these people always existed but this gen it reached critical mass. You always have to be extra careful about what you read and whether something is genuine.

And then of course someone will say "this is game of the year" and they may genuinely feel that because that's one of the only 3 games they have played all year! And this is much more common than you may think.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

I don't mind when people proclaim game of the year! and they truly believe and enjoyed it. And I like hearing why they enjoyed it.

It sucks and brings discussion to a halt when they want to bog down things by shitting on other games to prop up what they like, or justify it.

IDK, I don't take it seriously, but I have talked about this with an offline gaf buddy, it seems alot of people on gaf (or the internet really) just want to argue and "win" a point instead of discussing things, which entails an open mind and seeing and understanding people's point of views.

But I guess that is a whole other internet wide thing for another time.

 

[theprodigy]

I don't mind when people proclaim game of the year! and they truly believe and enjoyed it. And I like hearing why they enjoyed it.

It sucks and brings discussion to a halt when they want to bog down things by shitting on other games to prop up what they like, or justify it.

IDK, I don't take it seriously, but I have talked about this with an offline gaf buddy, it seems alot of people on gaf (or the internet really) just want to argue and "win" a point instead of discussing things, which entails an open mind and seeing and understanding people's point of views.

But I guess that is a whole other internet wide thing for another time.

This, so much, especially when this involves putting down previous entries in the same series.
But I believe I've already mentioned this in this thread before, so yeah.

edit: also the Wonderful 101 special of "you should buy this because it deserves better" is a worse version of the above

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Ninja Theory's resident moneyhat king talking about shills

my sides

 

[Dahbomb]

It sucks and brings discussion to a halt when they want to bog down things by shitting on other games to prop up what they like, or justify it.

This is absolutely one of the worst things I see on a video game forum.

It's extremely prevalent in DmC/DMC threads whenever they get made. DmC fans in particular have to prop up DmC by shitting on the older games (DMC4 being their prime focus, I can't tell you how many times I have been told that it's only half a game). And it works the other way too... people will praise MGR while simultaneously shit on DmC.

And it never ends well... someone takes a dump on another game, a fan of said game takes a dump on the original game and it becomes a shit slinging fest until the thread has to be locked.


Also I apologize for coming off as a jerk in my original post about "hipster mentality". Reading it again it probably comes off as more antagonistic than it actually is.

 

[The Mango Sentinel]

I don't mind when people proclaim game of the year! and they truly believe and enjoyed it. And I like hearing why they enjoyed it.

It sucks and brings discussion to a halt when they want to bog down things by shitting on other games to prop up what they like, or justify it.

IDK, I don't take it seriously, but I have talked about this with an offline gaf buddy, it seems alot of people on gaf (or the internet really) just want to argue and "win" a point instead of discussing things, which entails an open mind and seeing and understanding people's point of views.

But I guess that is a whole other internet wide thing for another time.

Yeah this is the absolute worst. And good god was it bad once TLoU released. Of course GAF has to make a "Game of the Year so far" thread like 5 days later, and I don't mind it, but I mentioned how mine was Metal Gear Rising and then everyone has to mention how I must not have played TLoU yet......though I had bought it release day and beat it in about 3 days. And then blah blah blah how can I like MGR more than TLoU. Just holy shit. I understand why it happens, but goddamn. I mean MGR was my game of the year because I had not had that much fun playing a game since Catherine....and this is coming from a guy that plays a shitload of games.

 

[Dahbomb]

Yea and it's not like MGR/TloU are the absolute same type of game where you can even make direct comparisons.

I didn't participate in the GAF GOTY awards BTW.

Alright alright alright... back to fighting games.


Eventhubs took a poll asking if people would want Edition select for tournament standard:

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/...4s-edition-select-become-tournament-standard/


Most people are against it. I would put myself in the middle. I would be fine with either decision but I would rather that people first try out Ultra version and then go to Edition select.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

I guess this another social test, or behavior thing (kimo, guide me here, haha).

When you see somebody else's list of something, their top 5 something, something, is your first instinct to:

1. Shit on it and dismiss it?
2. Have this urge to point out why it is all wrong and why yours is better?
3. Show genuine interest on their point of view and want to know why they feel that way?

 

[Kimosabae]

Also I apologize for coming off as a jerk in my original post about "hipster mentality". Reading it again it probably comes off as more antagonistic than it actually is.

I actually was insulted by that. That's why I came back with the UMVC3 remark. My apologies as well.



Respeck