• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Heath Ledger is dead.

Status
Not open for further replies.

acidviper

Banned
Man I respected that guy so much. He basically said, fuck it I'm reinventing myself as an actor. He stopped doing the teen bs and easy money and took some damn good roles. I hope it wasn't his role as the Joker that pushed him over the limit. Seeing him in the trailer it looks like he was so dialed in to the insanity.
 
This is officially the last photo taken of heath ledger...This photo was taken on saturday. :(
0122_heath_ledger_inf.jpg
 

batbeg

Member
Fixed2BeBroken said:
wait what? heath ledger was half asian?

No, but given OpinionatedCyborg's appropiate name, spouted shit doesn't come as much of a surprise.

I'm surprised at the people suggesting Heath was a kind of typical heart-throb actor with no credentials to his name until recently. I mean, it's GAF, so I'm not that surprised, but generally speaking the guy did some good stuff (even A Knight's Tale was better than I expected it was going to be when I re-saw it this last year).
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
medrew said:
Except if the word is out that he had it then it wouldn't have been left unchecked, would it? Because presumable it would have had to have been diagnosed.

I'm not sure why you think diagnosed and unchecked (at least in the colloquial sense) are somehow antonymous?

If you have viral pneumonia, there isn't much that can be done for you. 'Bed rest and drink plenty of fluids'. Considering we know he has a history of beating himself up pretty bad when filming roles (very little sleep, high stress, etc), it isn't a stretch to think he may have not been following the doctor's orders. What 28yo thinks he's going to die from pneumonia?

For bacterial pneumonia, the same as above applies. However, you can be prescribed antibiotics. Of course the problem with that is tons of things can kill off their effectiveness. Be it OTC drugs ... a few drinks, etc.

All I'm saying is that to jump from an overdose to pneumonia being the cause is a bit of a jump since we're all sitting here without accurate details and making our own minds up in what we want to believe. And yes, I still believe it is a leap of faith to be saying pneumonia is the direct cause at this stage.

I'm not saying I necessarily think this is the case either. However, you seem to be implying it is somehow less likely then the other scenarios mentioned.

Given that we do not have the accurate details, as you just pointed out, I'm curious as to why you seem so much more dismissive of this possibility than the others? Are you not committing the same error you're accusing me of?
 

Andokuky

Banned
I wouldn't be surprised if it was drug related, the guy was known for living in the moment and being a very, very heavy drinker. Maybe he just mixed alcohol, medication for pneumonia and sleeping pills and just drifted away while asleep? Sucks for his daughter, tragic for her.
 

Spire

Subconscious Brolonging
His constant lack of sleep would have weakened his immune system and I can see pneumonia being pretty devastating in that case.
 

painey

Member
im really suprised that this thread has so many replies, I always thought he was a pretty average actor in some crappy films but I guess the new batman movie built his reputation up. Sucks that he died though, especially for his kid who will have all the morbid details of her dads death recorded in the media.
 
painey said:
im really suprised that this thread has so many replies, I always thought he was a pretty average actor in some crappy films but I guess the new batman movie built his reputation up. Sucks that he died though, especially for his kid who will have all the morbid details of her dads death recorded in the media.
brokeback mountain, a knights tale, and 10 things i hate about you says WOW.
 

Strike

Member
:O

Holy shit. I just got home an hour ago. After hearing about it on the radio, I had to go online and check this out. 28 and a young daughter. Drugs or pneumonia, no matter how he died that's fucking tragic. He had a whole life and career ahead of him. It's gonna be really wierd seeing the Dark Knight knowing that that's the last movie he ever did. RIP.
 
AICN said:
Hey folks, Harry here... There's a lot of rumors swirling around right now in regards to Heath and where his involvement with THE DARK KNIGHT was. I got it confirmed from a source involved in Post-Production on THE DARK KNIGHT. Heath's post work was complete. He had indeed finished it, as to not interfere with the production of the film he was doing with Gilliam. We're now working to find out what's going to happen there. The last known photo of Heath was as a clown in that film. Will Terry re-cast? What will happen? We'll try to find out for all of you. But there will be no-dubbing on Heath in THE DARK KNIGHT - his performance was finished.

Good news, at least on that front (and that front only).
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
any info on whether or not he was doing coke at the time? my sister seems to be convinced of it, and claims to have heard something about it on some local news station. I think she's full of shit though.
 

batbeg

Member
demon said:
any info on whether or not he was doing coke at the time? my sister seems to be convinced of it, and claims to have heard something about it on some local news station. I think she's full of shit though.

Almost guaranteed bullshit. All reports indicate he's been clean on that front for at least a year, and furthermore he was discovered with sleeping pills around him and was suffering from pnemonia (allegedly).

I'm finding I'm taking this harder than I thought. I don't know, partially it's because he was so young but also I think he was almost on the verge of being iconic for my generation. Everyone I know basically met him with 10 Things or Knights Tale and it's like as his roles matured so did we.

:( I watched Knights Tale dozens of times when I was 13-14, and I just keep thinking I won't see his face ever again and it's sad. This is also an appreciative experience for me because I thought I had long ago become a cynic to Hollywood.
 

dogmaan

Girl got arse pubes.
from wiki

the Joker, who the actor described as a "psychopathic, mass murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy".[9] Nolan had wanted to work with Ledger on a number of projects in the past, but had been unable to do so.[10] When Ledger saw Batman Begins, he realized a way to make the character work in that film's tone,[11] and Nolan agreed upon his anarchic interpretation.[10] To prepare, he lived alone in a hotel room for a month, formulating the character's posture, voice and psychology.[8] While he initially found it difficult, Ledger was eventually able to generate a voice which did not sound like Jack Nicholson's take on the character in Tim Burton's 1989 Batman film.[12] He started a diary, in which he wrote the Joker's thoughts and feelings to guide himself during his performance.[9] He was also given Batman: The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth to read, which he "really tried to read [...] and put it down".[11] Ledger also cited inspiration in A Clockwork Orange and Sid Vicious.[13] Ultimately, "there’s nothing that [is] consistent", as his main objective was to frighten the audience.[13] The challenge of the role put a strain on Ledger's sleep patterns, finding himself unable to rest for more than a few hours each night.[9]

hmm dark thoughts perhaps?
 
i find it suspiciously odd jason lee would be so put off by somebody doing coke. especially being in show business. especially being friends with jason mewes. i mean i'd understand if he was like "yeah i left that party, not my thing" but he was pretty much saying OMFG PATHETIC ... err
 
Tyrone Slothrop said:
i find it suspiciously odd jason lee would be so put off by somebody doing coke. especially being in show business. especially being friends with jason mewes. i mean i'd understand if he was like "yeah i left that party, not my thing" but he was pretty much saying OMFG PATHETIC ... err


It is pathetic and obviously Jason Lee doesn't stand for it. Also, you don't know his personal relationship with Mewes.
 

Spire

Subconscious Brolonging
BobFromPikeCreek said:
Just got home. Any new developments? Murder? Suicide?

Looks like a very sad accident. Sleep deprivation + pneumonia + sleeping pills look to be the main culprit.
 

etiolate

Banned
Tyrone Slothrop said:
i find it suspiciously odd jason lee would be so put off by somebody doing coke. especially being in show business. especially being friends with jason mewes. i mean i'd understand if he was like "yeah i left that party, not my thing" but he was pretty much saying OMFG PATHETIC ... err

That is probably the scientology talking.

Anyways, I really liked Heath and his work. I've seen 10 things, A Knights Tale, Brokeback, Four Feathers, The Patriot and Candy, and really can't think of anything to complain about. I think he already has provided great moments in movies to remember and could have provided many more. This is the first celebrity death to shock me in awhile.
 

Salmonax

Member
VeritasVierge said:
Wait, you don't believe Terry Gilliam attracts bad luck do you?
After seeing "Lost in La Mancha," I can't help but feel a little bad for Gilliam here (while, of course, feeling worse for Ledger and his family).
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom