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[cormack12]

Source: https://www.ign.com/articles/amd-radeon-rx-9070-benchmark

All told, at 4K Extreme settings without upscaling or frame generation, the Radeon RX 9070 was capable of an impressive 99fps average, even if it had the same visual bug as the Intel Arc B580 when I benchmarked it. Now, to be clear, this graphics card is running on very early alpha drivers, and that bug will more than likely be resolved by the time the card comes to market. But even on those early drivers, a solid 99fps is incredibly impressive.

Because I ran the benchmark without upscaling, rather than the vendor appropriate upscaling method that I use when I usually benchmark this game for graphics card reviews, I don't have a direct comparison I can make. However, even with DLSS on the 'Quality' setting, the Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 Super gets around 129fps on the same graphics preset at 4K. Given that DLSS adds about a 30% performance jump at the Quality setting, that may place the Radeon RX 9070 on equal footing with the 4080 Super – though I'd need to test the 4080 Super without DLSS to know for sure.

 

[llien]

They got an actual card to test and... that's all they've tested? Oh my...

Anyhow, 4080super is at around 7900XT in this game.

 

[FireFly]

In BLOPS 6 a 7900 XT performs about as well as a 4080 Super. So that would make sense.

 

[Bry0]

They got an actual card to test and... that's all they've tested? Oh my...

Anyhow, 4080super is at around 7900XT in this game.

They ran the benchmark in a booth at CES lol. This is actually pretty baller of IGN, I doubt we are supposed to know these numbers concretely yet. Folks should also keep in mind COD runs particularly well on AMD graphics.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Black ops is the only game where AMD perform well. Rest is a steeeeep downhill from there.

If the performance of 9070 is on bar with with the 4080/s. That means the card is much slower than the 4080 and much slower than 7900xtx.

Because the 7900xtx is 4090 level in this game alone ( rest is bye bye )

Not impressive.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

AMD always performs best in CoD engine

These results are meaningless unless you only play CoD

And one day CoD will also implement ray tracing too, I guarantee this will happen

 

[llien]

Black ops is the only game where AMD perform well.

Sure, John.

day CoD will also implement ray tracing too

If AMD performs well it will be claimed to be "not the right" RT.

Funny that you are claiming that as if there weren't games where AMD leads with RT enabled.

 

[baphomet]

And one day CoD will also implement ray tracing too, I guarantee this will happen

It's had it this entire generation

 

[Unknown Soldier]

It's had it this entire generation

I mean it kinda hasn't, last I checked they only did like RT Shadows or some trash like that

To be fair CoD is optimized for consoles and the current consoles are bad at RT so there probably won't be much more than that anytime soon

 

[BattleScar]

In BLOPS 6 a 7900 XT performs about as well as a 4080 Super. So that would make sense.

Then you'd expect the 9070 (XT?) to perform the same as a 7900XT/4080S, rather than a 4090. Quite an anomalous result.

 

[Mister Wolf]

I mean it kinda hasn't, last I checked they only did like RT Shadows or some trash like that

To be fair CoD is optimized for consoles and the current consoles are bad at RT so there probably won't be much more than that anytime soon

They need to implement a performant hardware RTGI like Id Tech.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

CoD is optimised for online play not graphics.

 

[Hoddi]

Found this 4090 benchmark run on YouTube. Damn impressive if it's accurate.

 

[SolidQ]

Found this 4090 benchmark

from BangforBucks
2 weeks ago
7900XTX OC vs 4090 OC 9800X3D

 

[Azelover]

People are getting more obsessed about horsepower the more irrelevant it becomes.

Sooner rather than later there will be no practical difference in outcome, and folks will still fap over it. We're almost there already..

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

is the vram reporting bugged? the 4090 screenshot shows 20GB vram usage, while the ign's picture shows 9gb for the 9070.

 

[SolidQ]

is the vram reporting bugged? the 4090 screenshot shows 20GB vram usage, while the ign's picture shows 9gb for the 9070.

That Call of duty, it's love use most aviable Vram on cards

 

[Puscifer]

Now is that 9070 or 9070 xt? Impressive because if true that means it's within margin of a REAL 4090

 

[Hoddi]

is the vram reporting bugged? the 4090 screenshot shows 20GB vram usage, while the ign's picture shows 9gb for the 9070.

COD has a slider for controlling the video memory allocation. You can set it anywhere from 50-90% of your total VRAM capacity if you have a lot of background applications running.

 

[twilo99]

 

[MikeM]

Wish I could test this out on my 7900xt but don’t own the game on PC

 

[Bojji]

So how does he calculate that?

For example 4070ti super and 5070ti have exactly the same teraflop number. On chart based on raw numbers they should be closer.

 

[SolidQ]

So how does he calculate that?

maybe tflops?

Anyway story saying it's 9070 non XT, but i'm not belive, because would be too crazy if 9070 non XT beat XTX in CoD

 

[Bojji]

maybe tflops?

Anyway story saying it's 9070 non XT, but i'm not belive, because would be too crazy if 9070 non XT beat XTX in CoD

No, tflops would put 4070S above 5070...

I don't know. We have to wait for independent tests as always...

 

[Radical_3d]

They got an actual card to test and... that's all they've tested? Oh my...

Anyhow, 4080super is at around 7900XT in this game.

So, better than the XTX? That’s pretty impressive for a supposed mid range GPU.

 

[Crayon]

A 16gb card that performs like a 7900xt sounds good. People liked the 7800 XT. Make it $500.

 

[fersnake]

if the 5070 is 550 bucks then this cards needs to be at least 400 or lower above that is DOA.

 

[Gaiff]

Now is that 9070 or 9070 xt? Impressive because if true that means it's within margin of a REAL 4090

Not even close. AMD outperforms NVIDIA by around 20-30% in COD. This being on the level of a 4080 means it’s in the ballpark of a 7900 XT most of the time. It won’t ever come near a 4090 and I have no idea how you arrived at that conclusion.

So, better than the XTX? That’s pretty impressive for a supposed mid range GPU.

Gotta match scenes. It won’t be faster than a 7900 XTX.

 

[SolidQ]

It won’t be faster than a 7900 XTX.

it's faster than XTX in CoD, let's see if it apllies to other games.
anyway there gpu core photo Die Size around 390mm, that much bigger, than leak suggested. Leaks was around 270mm

 

[Buggy Loop]

I have a déjà vu with RDNA 3's 7900XTX having that game that performed close to 4090 around launch from a lot of extrapolations and no baseline to compare to and ended up being a whole lot of nothing

 

[Gaiff]

it's faster than XTX in CoD, let's see if it apllies to other games.
anyway there gpu core photo Die Size around 390mm, that much bigger, than leak suggested. Leaks was around 270mm

Except that it isn't unless you can get me the same benchmark. TPU says "custom scene". Does the OP run the same scene? No? Then it's not an admissible comparison.

 

[SolidQ]

Except that it isn't unless you can get me the same benchmark. TPU says "custom scene".

i've posted above read topic. Number 14

 

[Buggy Loop]

Except that it isn't unless you can get me the same benchmark. TPU says "custom scene". Does the OP run the same scene? No, then it's not an admissible comparison.

I've seen this 2 gens now

Let them have this, it's all they have

 

[Desprado123]

I could be 100% wrong, but if AMD withdraws the presentation due to pricing, then they would at least show how fast their GPU is by comparing its older GPU or Nvidia GPU, which it is competing with.

AMD hiding the benchmarks suggests that AMD is not getting the desired results that it hoped for, AMD assumptions about Nvidia GPU got wrong with price and performance (Cheaper and better performance than AMD thought).

In short, either NVIDIA has caught AMD off guard again, or AMD is not getting the desired result that they hoped.

 

[Trogdor1123]

if the 5070 is 550 bucks then this cards needs to be at least 400 or lower above that is DOA.

499 I bet

 

[//DEVIL//]

I have a déjà vu with RDNA 3's 7900XTX having that game that performed close to 4090 around launch from a lot of extrapolations and no baseline to compare to and ended up being a whole lot of nothing

Well, they kind of said they were no longer going after high-end. I don't expect the 7900xtx to be a high-end card with the 4090/5080/5090 in the picture.

but if this 9070 is below the 7900xtx and there is no higher card like 9080... then AMD is going to get it in the ass this time without any lubrication.

 

[Crayon]

I could be 100% wrong, but if AMD withdraws the presentation due to pricing, then they would at least show how fast their GPU is by comparing its older GPU or Nvidia GPU, which it is competing with.

AMD hiding the benchmarks suggests that AMD is not getting the desired results that it hoped for, AMD assumptions about Nvidia GPU got wrong with price and performance (Cheaper and better performance than AMD thought).

In short, either NVIDIA has caught AMD off guard again, or AMD is not getting the desired result that they hoped.

They could have pulled it because how do you answer a '5070 that's like a 4090'. That bs went down hook line and sinker. I could see taking some time to let that pass.

 

[Black_Stride]

I have a déjà vu with RDNA 3's 7900XTX having that game that performed close to 4090 around launch from a lot of extrapolations and no baseline to compare to and ended up being a whole lot of nothing

With enough cherry picking you can even make the 7900XTX look like the better GPU.

 

[Puscifer]

With enough cherry picking you can even make the 7900XTX look like the better GPU.

Those numbers are actually really competitive compared to the price

 

[Black_Stride]

Those numbers are actually really competitive compared to the price

If you play at below 4K the 7900XTX beats the 4090 in those cherry picked results.
So if you use any sort of upscaling to 4K........its a no brainer.


Note. Those are very cherry picked reviews.

 

[Gaiff]

i've posted above read topic. Number 14

Then either those numbers in the OP are dubious, or AMD managed to make something better than a 7900 XTX.

 

[FireFly]

I could be 100% wrong, but if AMD withdraws the presentation due to pricing, then they would at least show how fast their GPU is by comparing its older GPU or Nvidia GPU, which it is competing with.

AMD hiding the benchmarks suggests that AMD is not getting the desired results that it hoped for, AMD assumptions about Nvidia GPU got wrong with price and performance (Cheaper and better performance than AMD thought).

In short, either NVIDIA has caught AMD off guard again, or AMD is not getting the desired result that they hoped.

They already released slides saying they are positioning it as a 7900 XT replacement, and they already said that the "leaked" benchmarks (putting it at only 7900 GRE levels) were wrong.

Having a separate event where they can have the most impact makes sense. Their fumble was not announcing the date of the event at the conference.

 

[SolidQ]

AMD managed to make something better than a 7900 XTX.

Let's see how it turn out in other games.
P.S Hope someone at CES2025 will show video to us PathTracing + Neural Denoising from AMD, if AMD is allow capture

 

[llien]

So, better than the XTX? That’s pretty impressive for a supposed mid range GPU.

No, as benches depend on the scene a lot and in this scene you see 4080s at around 75 fps.

 

[llien]

I could be 100% wrong, but if AMD withdraws the presentation due to pricing, then they would at least show how fast their GPU is by comparing its older GPU or Nvidia GPU, which it is competing with.

AMD hiding the benchmarks suggests that AMD is not getting the desired results that it hoped for, AMD assumptions about Nvidia GPU got wrong with price and performance (Cheaper and better performance than AMD thought).

Not much is known about actual perf of NV cards either, so perhaps they want to see it first.

The faux frame bazinga is smoke and mirrors.

 

[Gaiff]

Let's see how it turn out in other games.
P.S Hope someone at CES2025 will show video to us PathTracing + Neural Denoising from AMD, if AMD is allow capture

Unless it's optimized for COD, it'd be weird to see it beating a 7900 XTX in that game but lose out in others.

This looks promising though. I hope the guy at IGN didn't do something idiotic that skewed the results. 4090-like performance from the 9070 XTX would be great.

 

[Puscifer]

if the 5070 is 550 bucks then this cards needs to be at least 400 or lower above that is DOA.

Depends on real world performance. I said it in another thread, but once the dust settled and the hype feeling came and went I realized that it's all AI performance and not raster. Nvidia also ran everything in performance mode, not quality or even balanced for that matter so that really knocked my hype down.

I'm in for something in a couple weeks but I need these hard numbers to make a decision

 

[SolidQ]

4090-like performance from the 9070 XTX would be great.

Zero chance, but possible like XTX + 10%. Anyway just wait for RDNA4 event and see real perf

 

[Wolzard]

I could be 100% wrong, but if AMD withdraws the presentation due to pricing, then they would at least show how fast their GPU is by comparing its older GPU or Nvidia GPU, which it is competing with.

AMD hiding the benchmarks suggests that AMD is not getting the desired results that it hoped for, AMD assumptions about Nvidia GPU got wrong with price and performance (Cheaper and better performance than AMD thought).

In short, either NVIDIA has caught AMD off guard again, or AMD is not getting the desired result that they hoped.

They said in a post-conference QA that there was no time for this, that CES only made 45 min available for them. However, I think the part about mobile chips could have been cut, which was a bit extensive.
AMD will produce a dedicated event to talk about the cards and new features. I assume they should do this closer to the launch of the 5070/5070 Ti in mid-February.

 

[SolidQ]

, that CES only made 45 min available for them.

Their RDNA3 event was 1 hr