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Kotaku: Unfortunately, Quantum Break Looks a Bit Rubbish

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Raide

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Not sure the guy who wrote the QB article played that demo, he wrote this "The presenter running the demo showed off a gunfight against some hired goons"

Similar thing with Halo 5.

Did any of those journalists pick up the xbox one controller and play?

Less Journalism and more Spector speaking his own mind based upon what he saw. Labelling articles like these as Journalism really puts a bad mark on those writers who hunt around for interesting information, or do interviews with developers or publishers that go beyond "How great/sucky is you game?"

Give me more Patrick actually hunting out interesting things and less Kotaku community comments making it as "Journalistic Articles."
 

Sydle

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So he's just criticizing the live action segments? The article was a play-by-play of an extended demo, where he said he wasn't exciting to watch (not many games are tbh), and then comments that the live action segments don't quite fit.

Did I miss something?
 
When you have a journalist saying that a game is "a bit rubbish" having not even played it, then you know they are looking for clicks.

I've got no problem with his opinion of the game and how he feels the mechanics are tired and overused, but he lacks any credibility by just adding that sentence.
 

speedomodel

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Remedy has yet to let me down. Everything I have seen so far looks like Quantum Break will be excellent. Still on board for a Day One purchase.
 
When you have a journalist saying that a game is "a bit rubbish" having not even played it, then you know they are looking for clicks.

I've got no problem with his opinion of the game and how he feels the mechanics are tired and overused, but he lacks any credibility by just adding that sentence.

So he watched someone else play the game and said it sucked?

loltaku.

I don't get these views, if he said it looked good, would he be any more credible?
 

chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
When you have a journalist saying that a game is "a bit rubbish" having not even played it, then you know they are looking for clicks.

They weren't allowed to play it. Articles praising the game also didn't play it. That's how most big demos at trade events go.

I mean, if they watch this long demo, what are they supposed to do afterwards? Not give their opinions?
 

AgeEighty

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If the word "rubbish" wasn't used would the backlash be this bad? QB looks like a solid game that will land somewhere in the 6 to 8 range on the critics scale. Not rubbish at all, but not a masterpiece. If you can't skip the tv show though, that's gonna tank the success of the game

"A bit rubbish" is a very common phrase in the UK and isn't meant as negatively as it sounds in the US. People need to chill out.
 

DrBo42

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I think the combat looks rubbish too. Had no idea I had the same qualifications as a Kotaku writer to make that call without playing the game.
 

Alpende

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I thought the game would be a lot different. The trailer made it look like a TPS with time elements and that's a shame for me.
 

Krakn3Dfx

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The more screen time Lance Reddick gets in Quantum Break, the better it will be. There's a direct correlation between "Reddick Time" and audience appreciation.
 

Majestad

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If the word "rubbish" wasn't used would the backlash be this bad? QB looks like a solid game that will land somewhere in the 6 to 8 range on the critics scale. Not rubbish at all, but not a masterpiece. If you can't skip the tv show though, that's gonna tank the success of the game

Fucking lol at a Remedy game landing in the "6 to 8" category.

Your post ranks in the immensely stupid category.
 
They weren't allowed to play it. Articles praising the game also didn't play it. That's how most big demos at trade events go.

I mean, if they watch this long demo, what are they supposed to do afterwards? Not give their opinions?

Once again, he is entitled and paid to have an opinion on the game. That isn't my problem. You can't call a game rubbish by just looking at it. He could have said I didn't enjoy what I saw etc. this title is click bait.
 
What's not to get?

I still would take what he says with a grain of salt because he hasn't played the game.

I don't get why it's prevalent of GAF recently to say that if someone has not played a game they're not allowed to think it looks bad, your comment was one of the lighter ones and you are right about taking pre release opinions with a pinch of salt. But the other post I quoted among a lot of others just boggle my mind. It's happened a lot in Devil's Third threads in the past couple of weeks where some users shoot down others because "they haven't played it so they can't say it looks bad" despite, themselves posting that the game looked good.
 

benny_a

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Once again, he is entitled and paid to have an opinion on the game. That isn't my problem. You can't call a game rubbish by just looking at it. He could have said I didn't enjoy what I saw etc. this title is click bait.
Are you equally outraged by the writer calling it "Excellent" before the behind closed doors demo?

(On the outrage-o-meter scale this should be even worse, because that was writen based on even less information than this article is based on.)
 

ultron87

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Once again, he is entitled and paid to have an opinion on the game. That isn't my problem. You can't call a game rubbish by just looking at it. He could have said I didn't enjoy what I saw etc. this title is click bait.

So your problem is just phrasing? Like if he'd said "the elements of the demo I saw looked rubbish" it would be fine?
 

soultron

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Are you talking about Quantum Break's characters? Because so far we've just seen dudes wearing normal street clothes, and on the fashion model thing, they're characters are based on and played by good looking actors. What about them seems overdesigned exactly?

The expensive-looking streetclothes aspect of them seems overdesigned is exactly my point. They have character likenesses to real actors (most of them), but the sleek leather jackets is an example of costuming choices I kind of find a bit farcical. I'm not asking these characters to look like De Niro in Ronin with actual plainclothes, but as a past point of reference from Remedy's past, I think Alan Wake's character design seemed to fit much more with that character and the matching fiction. It's definitely a stylistic choice, but it makes the characters feel, IMO, detached from the fiction -- almost like (but not to the same extent) the ridiculous leather-clad character designs in those Divergent teen lit films.
 

Roto13

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Once again, he is entitled and paid to have an opinion on the game. That isn't my problem. You can't call a game rubbish by just looking at it. He could have said I didn't enjoy what I saw etc. this title is click bait.
He looked at a game and said it looks a bit rubbish. Calm your tits.
 

OneUh8

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Only way to know is to play the finished product. Game is still a little ways off. I will reserve any judgement until I get my hands on it.
 

AgeEighty

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I think the combat looks rubbish too. Had no idea I had the same qualifications as a Kotaku writer to make that call without playing the game.

About 95% of the threads on GAF are full of people making judgment calls about games they haven't played yet, but I guess we're more qualified?
 
Are you equally outraged by the writer calling it "Excellent" before the behind closed doors demo?

(On the outrage-o-meter scale this should be even worse, because that was writen based on even less information than this article is based on.)

Who is outraged? Obviously this writer like sensationalising his articles so he gets more clicks.

So your problem is just phrasing? Like if he'd said "the elements of the demo I saw looked rubbish" it would be fine?

the headline is my only problem. I'm not sure why that's so difficult to understand.
 

ViciousDS

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I really do hope we get an explanation of why time explodes when using it.....otherwise its just there to please the shooter crowd. Even I was lost when he made an exploding time bubble. I could understand making the bubble that stops bullets as he basically stopped time and therefor the bullets don't come in even when everything else around him is running real time. But making the ground explode? Yes, please explain Remedy!
 

Bishop89

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Once again, he is entitled and paid to have an opinion on the game. That isn't my problem. You can't call a game rubbish by just looking at it. He could have said I didn't enjoy what I saw etc. this title is click bait.
Look up a video of Ninjabread man and tell me that game isn't rubbish. I dare you
 
Who is outraged? Obviously this writer like sensationalising his articles so he gets more clicks.



the headline is my only problem. I'm not sure why that's so difficult to understand.

You know he says it looks rubbish, right? He never said outright that the game is rubbish. Looks quantifies that his opinion is based on his viewing of the behind close doors demo at Gamescom. The title is fine.
 

TomShoe

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Why is it so wrong to have an opinion of a game you've never played? I have opinions of things that have never affected me, ever.
 

EGM1966

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Rubbish seems way harsh. It certainly, behind the effects, didn't look particularly innovative really, and there was a definite hint of Alan Wake about it (a solid but not classic game) but it certainly looked a lot better than rubbish.

If QB looks rubbish as a game what are we going to call the really rubbish looking games?
 

KORNdoggy

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But based upon their previous efforts, do you think they would make something boring and generic? Max Payne and Alan Wake did some really cool narrative and combat things, so you really think Remedy have basically gone "Shove it, lets make it as generic as possible!"

i doubt any developer intentionally sets out to do that. but i do find remedy to be quite consistent at making repetitive core mechanics for combat. max payne was a very short game with a stellar narrative, and so the repetition of slow mo diving was less evident but still there. alan wake however i found to be incredibly repetitive. right down to the way combat scenarios were introduced to the player (often a short fall from broken stairs or crumbled road into an arena-like ambush where you fight guys using the same methods over and over) and sadly for me, it's narrative wasn't on point and it was overlong.

quantum break looks like it could fall into the same problem. if the time manipulation abilities arn't slowly introduced and the enemies offer genuine dynamic combat possibilities, then it's going to get repetitive by default. hopefully they will, but if they do imo it'll be the first time they succeeded in that area.
 
To be fair the first report looks like a quick write up while watching the conference, whereas the second is a write up of an extended demonstration.


I think so aswell. Looks like the 2nd time he really took time to look at what he was watching, then critict it. There is nothing wrong with a person changing their mind about something.
 

Roto13

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Why is it so wrong to have an opinion of a game you've never played? I have opinions of things that have never affected me, ever.
The really stupid thing about it is that these people really seem to believe that it's only negative opinions that require you to play the game first, not positive ones. Bunch of crap.
 

benny_a

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If QB looks rubbish as a game what are we going to call the really rubbish looking games?
Even more rubbish than Quantum Break or if you want to be really mean even more rubbish than The Order 1886!

It's a self-created creative writing challenge. Now that's innovation.
 
I thought the time powers were pretty cool and especially the way they were executed in the game, so I can't really agree with those criticisms from the article at all.

My only concern is the TV/story integration which I can easily brush past.
 

Roto13

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Thanks for the post. Amazing addition to the thread.
Better than your dumb shit "noooooo how dare he say the thing he saw doesn't look good! You can't say something looks good or bad just by looking at it!" You're acting like this is their final review or something when it's not even close to being presented as that.
 
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