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Kotaku: Unfortunately, Quantum Break Looks a Bit Rubbish
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This thread is making my head hurt from sadness while at the same time making me laugh way too hard. Apparently, games writers are no longer allowed to say how things look to them because that's clickbait. Some Gaffers are in rare form today.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Yes it does. You should watch the Gamecom video where the player fights a time-jumper. He has to dodge the enemy's teleportation and other powers, while struggling to hit him because he moves too fast. He eventually sneaks up on him and pulls his equipment off.
What stood out to me about the time powers was how much it reminded me of Timeshift, which I feel used time powers in a fresh manner for the first time in a while since Max Payne. QB just looked uninspiring and boring despite being quite a looker. I hope we're not looking at another The Order/Ryse situation.
Visualante2
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I remember Silent Hill Homecoming had a really cool effect where you'd go between present day Silent Hill and this rotted disgusting one. All the wall paper would peel off and go manky. Was awesome.
It's their game at the end of the day, just strikes me as an attempt to make something that panders to hollywood. Like that film Source Code which had to have an explosion.
TylerDurden4321
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well, no, you are right "looks" is not a clickbait alarm word, but it's actually a fall-back excuse to write your subjective one word opinion ("excellent" and "a bit pants/rubbish") directly into the title and later be able to say "I didn't say it's crap, I just said that at that point it 'looked' that way".
A headline
"Remedy's trademark 'hammy writing' feels off in Quantum Break" (edit: which is the major concern I got from the article along with "do we need another one of those games")
would definitively get you less clicks than "looks a bit rubbish". It's especially odd since the author then says "Graphically, the whole platforming section looked good" in the "looked pants"-article.
More_Badass
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Oh, I'm merely talking gameplay and design wise, not quality wise
Edit: just read online, are we talking the enemies that can use your abilities too? See, didn't realize that. That adds a cool wrinkle to the dynamic, since the time slow adds a strategic flair as you need to depower those enemies to take them on effectively
Yeah, just saw that.
NoMoChokeSJ
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I'm not overly sure if the mechanics of the game will wear thin over time. The thing I am most excited about is the potential to have a game with a solid story and good production.
Signet Son
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When has a Remedy game ever been rubbish? Max Payne..Alan Wake. Come on..
ShemhazaiX
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Christ this thread is a graveyard.
Guess there's been too many new GAF members so Evilore paid Kotaku to write some controversial articles so we could have a good old fashioned culling.
That's easier to believe than someone changing their mind about a game, right?
Guess there's been too many new GAF members so Evilore paid Kotaku to write some controversial articles so we could have a good old fashioned culling.
That's easier to believe than someone changing their mind about a game, right?
yes they have, they have done that multiple times since the reveal in 2013
AyaisMUsikWhore
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People think Max Payne was rubbish? ✋✋✋ Please stop.
I do however see the similarities between the two and I'm cool with that tbh. I like Alan Wake too, I just didn't like the story but it was still dope. I'm still hype for QB tho. It just looks amazing... Ugh! I just wish it wasn't in episodes
I do however see the similarities between the two and I'm cool with that tbh. I like Alan Wake too, I just didn't like the story but it was still dope. I'm still hype for QB tho. It just looks amazing... Ugh! I just wish it wasn't in episodes
Not saying the game is bad or anything but devs, no matter how good their track record is, are not immune to making bad/mediocre games.
P.S. Good lord, all those bans!
You don't know what clickbait means.
Yeah. To each their own, but I've always found it a little underwhelming. As for the gimmick of integrating a TV show -- I've always expected that to be meh, at best.
I'll still likely play this when it's out, but I'm not expecting much.
Once again, to each their own. Combat mechanics in Alan Wake got boring for me really fast, and I wasn't as hooked on the writing as most.
going to have to call bullshit on this, if you listen to the audio leak of the behind closed doors demo, someone during the QA period asks Sam this specific question.
Sam replies with saying the game has 4 arcs, each arc(Large portion) is played before a junction moment appears, and even says before demoing the junction moment.
so how can this guy conclude without that, without seeing how the gameplay ramps down/transition from the junction moment
Devilgunman
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Not sure why Remedy think inserting 20 min of FMV after a chapter is a good idea. People were already bitching about MGS4 long cutscenes back then.
Yup. Pretty much my thoughts. What I saw looked fun and much better than their previous games gameplay wise.
It's not isn't it did I miss something?
Cthulhu_Steev
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It's certainly going to beat the order in non-gameplay cut scenes.
Jessie.Bristol
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Those Live Action Episodes are optional, you don't need to watch them after finishing an Act. They just add a bit extra to the story and can change depending on the choices you make during Junction Points.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Yeah it's going to be. That's why he mentioned the whole TV thing because it's supposed to be played in episodes
Unknown One
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Sounds like a diabolical plan. I guess his name is Evil for a reason.
I can understand the criticism, but one thing I don't get is the writer's opinion on the enemies. He says it is boring to watch the main character use his time powers flanking enemies and what not, but then proceeds to say that enemies that counter the main character's time powers are nothing new therefore not exciting. What kind of enemies does this person want to fight against then?
Signet Son
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Very true. Personally, I'm impressed so far. Rubbish is a bit harsh though. Looks solid overall.
DarthWalden
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It's 20 minutes spread out over the entire game...
RedSparrows
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Windom Earle
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"Rubbish" is a term I would use for Alan Wake, so there is a lot Remedeem.
I doubt people would even remember Alan Wake if it was a 3rd party title from a less known dev.
sorry
I doubt people would even remember Alan Wake if it was a 3rd party title from a less known dev.
Jessie.Bristol
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No, it's about 22 minutes (give or take depending on the choice you make at each Junction Point) for each Episode. And there is an Episode at the end of each Act, but they are entirely optional. You aren't forced to watch them.
Seriously now?
You should feel sorry for saying Alan Wake was rubbish but not for your glorious pun.
SomedayTheFire
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So there is 4 acts throughout the game? Each one ends with an episode? You'd need to watch the last one to know the ending, unless it just retreads what you play?
DarthWalden
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I stand corrected.
ohhh I actually haven't been following the game super close so this is news to me, actually sounds kinda cool, though I'm someone who can stand silly Sci-Fi Shows. Good that's it's skippable for those who won't want to watch it, but if it's fun to watch and has a decent story, will be nice to see how it plays out along iwth the story of the game during in game sections.
Windom Earle
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Haha, thanks, didn't think it was all that glorious. (Both pun and AW at that)
The gameplay was super repetitive + writing, story and characters were also a failure for me. On top the game had a lot of technical issues in the console version.
Bigfellahull
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For me, everything I saw at gamescom and heard from Sam has only increased my excitement for this game.
He said in the article that having "lively and satisfying" gunplay would save it. It's really hard to judge how solid the shooting mechanics are from just watching it but seeing as this is Remedy I would be comfortable betting they are solid and it's fun to play.
He said in the article that having "lively and satisfying" gunplay would save it. It's really hard to judge how solid the shooting mechanics are from just watching it but seeing as this is Remedy I would be comfortable betting they are solid and it's fun to play.
You will miss out on story though which means you will miss out on a lot if you skip them.
While I won't call either of those 'Rubbish', I did find both very underwhelming.
Max Payne 3 had (generally) great gameplay (boat sequence excluded) and horrid cutscenes and some annoying misc issues (having your guns change everytime you opened a door got tiresome). I liked it on whole but wasn't exactly amazed by it.
EDIT Ignore that entire previous paragraph as people have pointed out Remedy didn't make it, I guess I just associate them that much with Max Payne!
Alan Wake had the reverse issue - I enjoyed the story elements, but found the gameplay incredibly dull. I know some people swear by playing on Hard in that game, but that just made it more tedious for me. I did like American Nightmare a bit more on whole.
So for me, if Quantum Break just combines Max Payne 3 and Alan Wake, it could either be an amazing game (gameplay from MP3, story handling of Alan Wake), or terrible (reverse of above), and I haven't been able to get enough from trailers to get an idea which way it might go.
Max Payne 3 was not a Remedy Game. If it was it would have been better.
Just FYI: Max Payne 1 + 2 are from Remedy. Max Payne 3 was by mostly Rockstar Vancouver.
1st time seeing so many bans.
From what I have seen, I have only 2 potential gripes with QB.
1st the game looks pretty easy, it is going to be interesting seeing how Remedy balances out the time powers.
2nd I don't like that my game time is going to be interrupted by 20 minutes of cutscenes essentially. If the acting is good, characters are interesting and the storyline is good then I won't mind as much. Judging by the actors who are confirmed to be in the show, I think Remedy and MS are putting a lot of effort into the show.
Also originality is overrated. If a game executes the gameplay mechanic perfectly, it don't matter if the game isn't 'original'.
From what I have seen, I have only 2 potential gripes with QB.
1st the game looks pretty easy, it is going to be interesting seeing how Remedy balances out the time powers.
2nd I don't like that my game time is going to be interrupted by 20 minutes of cutscenes essentially. If the acting is good, characters are interesting and the storyline is good then I won't mind as much. Judging by the actors who are confirmed to be in the show, I think Remedy and MS are putting a lot of effort into the show.
Also originality is overrated. If a game executes the gameplay mechanic perfectly, it don't matter if the game isn't 'original'.
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