Oldest Snake
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Laaaaaame.
You'd think that when they were shifting the release from September 15th to September 1st they'd have given this some thought.
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Metal Gear Solid V Will not Have a Preload on Steam
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Laaaaaame.
You'd think that when they were shifting the release from September 15th to September 1st they'd have given this some thought.
So you assume they will change the unlock time before release? Cuz like JaseC said it's still 10am PT even for NZ.
robotzombie
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so there are no concerns on the quality of the PC version right? it's probably going to be the go-to if you have the choice?
I did mention that tweet in my earlier post, in which I explained why the situation as it currently stands isn't as clear cut as it should be:
His tweets are a week old now and the unlock time hasn't changed. That doesn't bode well.
They specifically asked what stuff we wanted in the version, included as much as they could and even brought the release date up 2 weeks. GZ was also a solid port. So far no red flags. Also if you buy on steam you can always refund since they have a great system in place now.
The lack of a pre-load period is truly baffling. Even assuming the data isn't finalised, most people (i.e. everyone without a particularly fast connection) would prefer to download the difference on launch day rather than the whole hog. I think Konami is concerned that allowing a pre-load would result in the game being cracked early, but Steam pre-load data is and has always been encrypted.
robotzombie
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great, so PC it is (unless of course I can get the PS4 version a couple days early, then all hell's breaking loose)
side note, worst case scenario I preorder the PC version and then ask for a refund, what happens regarding the free Ground Zeroes? I don't want it to be like I'm scamming the system for a free game, does steam care about that?
CertifiedFP
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I was under the impression that the Ground Zeroes bundle was to game the system and make it a no-refunds purchase.
I assume they just deactivate it? I have no idea how steam handles that stuff. Also PC version has custom soundtracks :3
Here is the press release
http://steamcommunity.com/games/287700/announcements/detail/801990781197940705
The only items that are non-refundable are videos and DLC with an irreversible effect (e.g. a character booster).
You'll lose GZ, too, as it's part of the package.
alien isolation's time didn't change and it launched a day early. all it takes is for someone at konami to hit publish.
besides, tpp is an odd case because as i'm sure some of you have noticed, it isn't actually on sale as a stand-alone product. it's on sale as a bundle. the bundle will switch to stand-alone at 10am PT as per robert's tweets, but he has made it clear that the game will unlock for those who pre-purchased at midnight NZ time. whether that means the game disappears for purchase from steam until 10am PT is a mystery. the two don't directly contradict each other, considering you can't actually buy tpp alone through steam yet.
It's Valve that changes release states (this is why games don't release on weekends), but I wasn't ruling out that things could change. I did say bode, for one.
They do contradict each other. Pre-order subs are replaced with their post-release equivalents when a game unlocks and Konami couldn't repurpose the former without affecting everybody who owns it, plus it also can't just outright replace user licences. Either the game unlocks at midnight the 1st NZ local time or the pre-purchase period runs until 10am PT. It can't be both unless the game is unlocking in NZ first and other territories later, but Peeler's tweets don't indicate a staggered release.
then in that case, i don't really know what's going to happen. the prevailing information seems to be that the game goes live at midnight at new zealand time, and other quotes from robert indicate that won't be a regionalised thing.It's Valve that changes release states, but I wasn't ruling out that things could change. I did say bode, for one.
They do contradict each other. Pre-order subs are replaced with their post-release equivalents when a game unlocks and Konami couldn't repurpose the former without affecting everybody who owns it, plus it also can't just outright replace user licences. Either the game unlocks at midnight the 1st NZ local time or the pre-purchase period runs until 10am PT. It can't be both unless the game is unlocking in NZ first and other territories later, but Peeler's tweets don't indicate a staggered release.
EDIT:
just sticking this tweet here. seems to give the clearest picture of what happens.
https://twitter.com/MrHooboMaster/status/634061096995934208
Not even Peeler knows, it seems, haha. The game unlocking worldwide at midnight NZ local time would be great (no pre-load aside) and I hope that's the intention.
PetriP-TNT
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Oh well, I can most likely download it faster than decrypt it :shrug:
20cent
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Yes it is, I found a shop taking pre-orders for the retail (disc?) box
Probably :/, at least I'll have 25% less to download then
in theory, yes. that's about 1pm BST i think.
RoyaleDuke
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If I am not mistaken then the unlock times for PC will look like this:
12 PM UK time 8/31
8AM East Coast(US) 8/31
6AM Mountain Time(US) 8/31
5AM Pacific time(US, west coast) 8/31
12 PM UK time 8/31
8AM East Coast(US) 8/31
6AM Mountain Time(US) 8/31
5AM Pacific time(US, west coast) 8/31
GhostTrick
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edit: nvm I am blind.
it's 1PM for the UK, we're on BST right now. that means 2PM CET for continental europe.
indigo-cyclops
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I may actually get to play this before my vacation then, if it does unlock on 8/31! No pre-load really sucks though.
Yep and if it's really true I will force myself to sleep early and wake up when it dl's, this is the liberty we've won for ourselves my PC brethren.
hoping the driver updates and nvidia graphics config blog go up soon. i'm so ready.
I'm leaning towards this guy has no idea what he is talking about.
RoyaleDuke
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So basically... Unlocks 1 day earlier ?
Yes, Robert Peeler is the community manager or something for Konami/Koji Pro(RIP) and more or less confirmed that the game's download unlock time is midnight New Zealand time which means that when it's midnight over there we can all start downloading in our own time zones.
Basically PC unlocks almost an entire day early in some cases.
Ahh, okay thanks for that info I'm not from there so I have no idea what your timezones are like.
Don't worry, if Peeler is to be believed it will unlock around New Zealand time.
don't take that as gospel. games have released before at different times to the unlock time on the steam store. right now the official line from the metal gear community manager is midnight NZ time global unlock.
depends entirely on your internet connection however, so for some that lead might diminish pretty significantly by the time it's downloaded. i think that's what konami is thinking with no preload but earlier launch time.
we can always just tweet at them for confirmation, but i think robert is probably deliberately being vague to avoid too much of a "OMG PC USERS GET IT EARLY" narrative
I'm in Switzerland so I can't have that, you guys need to wait until I come home.
RoyaleDuke
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I'll be playing within 30-40 minutes provided everything goes smoothly, can't wait till Monday.
Konami just unlock it now pls.
This is my guess. It sounds like the multiplayer and PC port were coming in hot over the past month. I'm anticipating most of the bugs originating in the PC port versus the consoles.
Also I don't think this guy knows what he's talking about...doesn't know if the physical PC copy activates on Steam or not.
EDIT: neither does Konami EU.
EDIT: neither does Konami EU.
CambriaRising
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This fucking company man, I swear.
This is why I'm leaning towards this guy has no clue what he is talking about.
I'll leave my computer on and make some space on my SSD just in case, but I'm counting on a 10 am Pacific release on the 2nd at this point.
uh, he explains why he doesn't know. it's because those are being handled by konami europe. he's a US-based rep. stuff like that is regional, so i'm not surprised he doesn't know information about something that does not affect his own region.
actually i don't think we're going to have a huge problem with bugs on pc. if there was any concern about not creating a satisfying product, they wouldn't have moved the release date forward and could have just left the pc release as sept 14th/15th. moving up to sept 1st without a guarantee of the pc version being finished would have been creating a rod for their own back. the work may be going up to the wire, but i don't expect it to be much more than final checks and tweaks.
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