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[MARTYWOLF]

This is not about the math or numbers, it's all about the performance gain and efficiency in PS5 compared to the ancient tech.

Bro you got proved wrong just now just stahp

 

[JAMMA]

A real 4K machine, which not even XBO X is because not all games run at 4K.

No worries, I'll be one of the first to call you out on your bullshit when specs for PS5 are released.

Man, you’re one pathetic little boy. Call me out on bullshit what? Speculations? You’re seriously going to call someone out on differing opinions if your Fanboy shit gives you a stiffy in the future? Lmfao, don’t you spam up the forum by doing that already while gagging on that fat 12TF with tears and eyeliner running down your face in the meantime?

Jesus man, your Avatar is Phil Spencer. You’re a special kind of cringe.

 

[Agnostic2020]

"More than 8 times as powerful as vanilla PS4 and four times as powerful as the PS4 Pro",

so you mean Sony already showed us 4 ps4 pro is one ps5?

Which means around 13 rdna tf

So about 12TF RDNA then?

Thats around 13 rdna tf.

 

[Gudji]

Man, you’re one pathetic little boy. Call me out on bullshit what? Speculations? You’re seriously going to call someone out on differing opinions if your Fanboy shit gives you a stiffy? Lmfao, don’t you spam up the forum by doing that already while gagging on that fat 12TF with tears and eyeliner running down your face in the meantime.

Jesus man, your Avatar is Phil Spencer. You’re a special kind of pathetic.

You've been trolling in this thread for weeks, you keep trying to trigger everyone here that thinks PS5 is equal or higher in power than XSX and downplaying anything sony does or says.
I'm not the only one calling you out on that one, this ain't about opinions you little troll. Grow up man-child.

 

[Gamernyc78]

Yoooo if I was Sony I'd post one number or letter to my site a day and tell ppl it'll spell out something than boom at the end of it all it'll say twelve /thirteen tfs bitches
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[darkinstinct]

You've been trolling in this thread for weeks, you keep trying to trigger everyone here that thinks PS5 is equal or higher in power than XSX and downplaying anything sony does or says.
I'm not the only one calling you out on that one, this ain't about opinions you little troll. Grow up man-child.

One side has Jamma, other side has thelastword. Why not call them out both?

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Yoooo if I was Sony I'd post one number or letter to my site a day and tell ppl it'll spell out something than boom at the end of it all it'll say twelve /thirteen tfs bitches
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Well there’s only four weeks in month, they could do it before April?

 

[LED Guy?]

Yoooo if I was Sony I'd post one number or letter to my site a day and tell ppl it'll spell out something than boom at the end of it all it'll say twelve /thirteen tfs bitches
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Or maybe....

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[JAMMA]

The bom accurately reflects a system of comparable performance to the SX, but with a few components as slightly better. That would fall in line with being slightly lower flops, slightly better SSD.

There really isn’t anything else to find in it all? It equally doesn’t say it’s 9 any more than it says it’s 13/14?

MS will not target $599. That price is toxic, and a running gag with people not even in the know. It’s common sense that the higher you price your console the worst it will perform at retail, and you want a gold balance between mass adoption and good spec. Both being 12ish is exactly that.

The mid gen refresh was $500, I think it’s beyond optimistic to hope for $500 again so soon for double the TF.

 

[Evilms]

 

[sonomamashine]

How did Sony stumble on Navi 10 in 2017 makes me wonder? RDNA is 7nm, but there was no 7nm in 2017? Why did AMD wait for mid 2019 to release 5700XT when they could have release it 2 years earlier? Why would Sony provide dev kits for next gen half a year after they released PS4 Pro and 3 years before actual system is released? Why did Github show 9.2TF chip being tested in summer of 2019 when it is supposed to be a chip found in 2017 devkit?

Hmm...so many questions...

Early samples are made years before mass production, mass production is made when the product is mature (testing, stress, etc...)

 

[Gavin Stevens]

The mid gen refresh was $500, I think it’s beyond optimistic to hope for $500 again so soon for double the TF.

The Xbox one x is currently selling for $299.99 right NOW, and will likely drop even more when the new consoles hit.

Prices change. Often. and no, it won’t be cheap, but likewise it also won’t be stupidly priced. As I said, you need to strike a balance between good performance, and good price. Otherwise you will have a product nobody can afford but people want, or a product everybody can afford nobody wants. It’s retail 101.

 

[ksdixon]

I'm half asleep, and have the idea my mate is pulling my leg because I haven't read any of the following first hand, but haven't got the energy to counterpoint it right now.

Can anyone tell me:

Is it true that Sony's and launch date could be affected by Corona Virus in China, but not MS because they're building XBSX in Korea?

Is it true that Sony are having issues with supply line, with Samsung eating up RAM memory orders for their smartphones, but not MS because they're using Samsung for XBSX's memory?

Is Sony using Huawei for it's SSD's, and could therefore run into issues selling PS5 in USA given Trump's ban?

 

[manzo]

God damn people

MY GUESS IS BETTER THAN YOUR GUESS, YOUR GUESS IS WRONG IT'S 1000 TERAFLOPS NOT 9.2

It's all guesses folks until we get the real specs. No need to attack other people because they're guessing something else than you.

 

[Kazekage1981]

Even if PS5 has less TFLOPS, it will still be ahead of Microsoft. I guarantee you it will NOT be 9.2 TFLOPS. The overall system package, the tight integration of all its components, the new ways of playing, you are not going to give 2 shits about TFLOPS. I bet you the console has innovations that Microsoft does not have. Let Microsoft have the power narrative, I bet you its just not going to matter, in the same way nobody gives a shit about texture mapped polygons per second, or how many bits, and other metrics we used to once care about. Both consoles have passed thresholds or bottlenecks or barriers that held system performance back this current gen.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Wait, is that gif real?

The legendary Muhammad Ali!

 

[xool]

You try hard to push 9.2TF. You are wrong. You are technically trolling 24/7. Wonder where the accounts that do the same are? You never see Senjursu and Rightisrught and R600 on at same time huh? And others too.

lay off with that sockpuppet stuff

This guy isn't R600 - that's certain - it's baiting. not again.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

God damn people

MY GUESS IS BETTER THAN YOUR GUESS, YOUR GUESS IS WRONG IT'S 1000 TERAFLOPS NOT 9.2

It's all guesses folks until we get the real specs. No need to attack other people because they're guessing something else than you.

Welcome to the thread! First time eating here? Can I get you a menu?

 

[JAMMA]

You've been trolling in this thread for weeks, you keep trying to trigger everyone here that thinks PS5 is equal or higher in power than XSX and downplaying anything sony does or says.
I'm not the only one calling you out on that one, this ain't about opinions you little troll. Grow up man-child.

If the PS5 is 9 you’re going to make up excuses for it and I’m not. If it’s above 12 we’re both going to praise it. That’s the difference between us. You’re so invested that no matter what you’ll be convinced that “your team” is the winner.

I’m pessimistic about it, the Github is the only FACTUAL numbers that we know so far. It was right about XSX. The rest is hearsay.

 

[saintjules]

 

[ZywyPL]

This goes to my idea of a “Soon” calculator.

Soon= no one has a fucking clue, including Sony
Really soon= sooner than Soon
Really really soon= even sooner than Really soon
Stay toned= announcement of the reveal, of the actual reveal date
Around the corner = 15min. before live reveal

Fixed

 

[hemo memo]

Welcome to the thread! First time eating here? Can I get you a menu?

Your first sneeze muffin is on the house.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Yes

محمد علي كلاي

He doesn't like "Clay" name though.

 

[tflopsmatter]

Even if PS5 has less TFLOPS, it will still be ahead of Microsoft. I guarantee you it will NOT be 9.2 TFLOPS. The overall system package, the tight integration of all its components, the new ways of playing, you are not going to give 2 shits about TFLOPS. I bet you the console has innovations that Microsoft does not have. Let Microsoft have the power narrative, I bet you its just not going to matter, in the same way nobody gives a shit about texture mapped polygons per second, or how many bits, and other metrics we used to once care about. Both consoles have passed thresholds or bottlenecks or barriers that held system performance back this current gen.

TFLOPS are what will make PS5 games look photorealistic. I don't really care about new ways of playing, the overall package, the tight integration of components, etc. All I want is the system that will put absolute best photorealistic graphics on my 1080P screen. Of all the different improvements, the teraflops are the most important.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

Your first sneeze muffin is on the house.

Well that’s another 6 month delay. THANKS A LOT.

 

[hemo memo]

He doesn't like "Clay" name though.

Fixed.

 

[Gavin Stevens]

TFLOPS are what will make PS5 games look photorealistic. I don't really care about new ways of playing, the overall package, the tight integration of components, etc. All I want is the system that will put absolute best photorealistic graphics on my 1080P screen. Of all the different improvements, the teraflops are the most important.

Yeaaaaah that’s not really 100% accurate but at least your name checks out

 

[tflopsmatter]

If the PS5 is 9 you’re going to make up excuses for it and I’m not. If it’s above 12 we’re both going to praise it. That’s the difference between us. You’re so invested that no matter what you’ll be convinced that “your team” is the winner.

I’m pessimistic about it, the Github is the only FACTUAL numbers that we know so far. It was right about XSX. The rest is hearsay.

If the PS5 is 9TF I'll simply abandon gaming until the PS6 comes out. I won't have a meltdown. Instead, I'll focus on other interests. However, if the PS5 is at least twelve TF, I'll be happy. If it is at least thirteen TF, I'll be thrilled. If it is fourteen, I'll jump up and down.

 

[hemo memo]

If the PS5 is 9TF I'll simply abandon gaming until the PS6 comes out. I won't have a meltdown. Instead, I'll focus on other interests. However, if the PS5 is at least twelve TF, I'll be happy. If it is at least thirteen TF, I'll be thrilled. If it is fourteen, I'll jump up and down.

What about PS5 Pro?

 

[Kazekage1981]

TFLOPS are what will make PS5 games look photorealistic. I don't really care about new ways of playing, the overall package, the tight integration of components, etc. All I want is the system that will put absolute best photorealistic graphics on my 1080P screen. Of all the different improvements, the teraflops are the most important.

You mean 4K screen?

 

[existensmaximum]

The Xbox one x is currently selling for $299.99 right NOW, and will likely drop even more when the new consoles hit.

Prices change. Often. and no, it won’t be cheap, but likewise it also won’t be stupidly priced. As I said, you need to strike a balance between good performance, and good price. Otherwise you will have a product nobody can afford but people want, or a product everybody can afford nobody wants. It’s retail 101.

Really? In Sweden, the cheapest price (not counting grey import) is 5290 SEK = $544 for the bundle with Forza Horizon 4 + Forza Motorsport 7.

 

[JAMMA]

TFLOPS are what will make PS5 games look photorealistic. I don't really care about new ways of playing, the overall package, the tight integration of components, etc. All I want is the system that will put absolute best photorealistic graphics on my 1080P screen. Of all the different improvements, the teraflops are the most important.

1080P? This isn’t the 360 and PS3 era, you’re crazy overdue for an upgrade.

 

[Agnostic2020]

If the PS5 is 9TF I'll simply abandon gaming until the PS6 comes out. I won't have a meltdown. Instead, I'll focus on other interests. However, if the PS5 is at least twelve TF, I'll be happy. If it is at least thirteen TF, I'll be thrilled. If it is fourteen, I'll jump up and down.

I ll also be extremely disappointed but once they show the games u ll forget . But it’s not 9 don’t worry

 

[FranXico]

TFLOPS are what will make PS5 games look photorealistic. I don't really care about new ways of playing, the overall package, the tight integration of components, etc. All I want is the system that will put absolute best photorealistic graphics on my 1080P screen. Of all the different improvements, the teraflops are the most important.

9TF should actually suffice if you game on a 1080p screen. Just sayin'.

 

[Gudji]

If the PS5 is 9 you’re going to make up excuses for it and I’m not. If it’s above 12 we’re both going to praise it. That’s the difference between us. You’re so invested that no matter what you’ll be convinced that “your team” is the winner.

Your bias has been showing for a long time, you're not fooling anyone so please do us a favor and stop trying to look imparcial because you're not.

And btw I'm not invested in anything, I've already told here I don't care which console is the most powerful.
You're the one invested on the 9.2 TF github leak because it makes your favorite box look good. You're also the one that loves to ignore everything that has been said by people in the know for over the course of almost two years. You're always making silly arguments like the one you just made in one of your previous posts: "PS4 PRO was underpowered since cerny said 8TF was requited for 4K gaming".

You're so close to become the new Tim Dog on this thread that you don't even realize. Or maybe you do...

 

[siekro1983]

vaccine was already out and is in testing phase anyway.

WSJ News Exclusive | Drugmaker Moderna Delivers First Experimental Coronavirus Vaccine for Human Testing

Moderna has shipped the first batch of the company’s rapidly developed coronavirus vaccine to researchers at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

www.wsj.com

 

[JAMMA]

If the PS5 is 9TF I'll simply abandon gaming until the PS6 comes out. I won't have a meltdown. Instead, I'll focus on other interests. However, if the PS5 is at least twelve TF, I'll be happy. If it is at least thirteen TF, I'll be thrilled. If it is fourteen, I'll jump up and down.

 

[jackets with pockets]

 

[JAMMA]

Your bias has been showing for a long time, you're not fooling anyone so please do us a favor and stop trying to look imparcial because you're not.

And btw I'm not invested in anything, I've already told here I don't care which console is the most powerful.
You're the one invested on the 9.2 TF github leak because it makes your favorite box look good. You're also the one that loves to ignore everything that has been said by people in the know for over the course of almost two years. You're always making silly arguments like the one you just made in one of your previous posts: "PS4 PRO was underpowered since cerny said 8TF was requited for 4K gaming".

You're so close to become the new Tim Dog on this thread that you don't even realize.

Your bias isn’t showing? You, HGamer And Gamernyc78 are totally the the spitting image of PS fanboys.

Sure I’ve got a bias for Xbox, but unlike you I’ll happily buy a PS5 if the specs are better whereas you won’t buy an XSX if it’s specs are better.

Is it a crime to believe the only factual leak over the fever dreams spewed by pseudo insiders? Get a grip on reality.
Facts > Fantasy

 

[Kazekage1981]

So how may texture mapped polygons per second and bits are XsX and PS5?

Anything less than 2.5 billion per second is game over for Microsoft
Anything less than 384 bits is game over for PS5. I mean come on, Nintendo 64 console promised silicon graphics Terminator 2 T-1000 style....err...

 

[FranXico]

Nice photoshop.

 

[siekro1983]

Your bias has been showing for a long time, you're not fooling anyone so please do us a favor and stop trying to look imparcial because you're not.

And btw I'm not invested in anything, I've already told here I don't care which console is the most powerful.
You're the one invested on the 9.2 TF github leak because it makes your favorite box look good. You're also the one that loves to ignore everything that has been said by people in the know for over the course of almost two years. You're always making silly arguments like the one you just made in one of your previous posts: "PS4 PRO was underpowered since cerny said 8TF was requited for 4K gaming".

You're so close to become the new Tim Dog on this thread that you don't even realize. Or maybe you do...

This honestly reminds of switch and Wiiu where people believed insiders instead of looking at the actual info from developers and leaks, guess what the leaks were right.

 

[tflopsmatter]

A 20tf machine with 4gb ram and a traditional HDD will NOT beat a 5tf machine with 16gb gddr6 and an ultra fast SSD at loading. It will also thrash memory while trying to load any new data in during gameplay, something that happens all the time.

Its circumstantial.

So as I said... TF doesn’t mean everything to a quality system build, and they don’t tell the whole story.

What about PS5 Pro?

I would not buy a PS5 Pro because I will only buy a console that has the benefit of a brand new architecture in addition to TFs.

I consider it a waste to buy a mid gen upgrade unless you are rich.

I'm very concerned though that the PS6 may not have physical media. If it does not, then I'll have to abandon this interest of mine forever.

 

[mitchman]

Really? In Sweden, the cheapest price (not counting grey import) is 5290 SEK = $544 for the bundle with Forza Horizon 4 + Forza Motorsport 7.

3 190 ,- here in Norway, no bundle version.

 

[Fake]

You make fun, but look at those people who voted on 5.8TF.

 

[Kazekage1981]

Ruh-oh

 

[tflopsmatter]

9TF should actually suffice if you game on a 1080p screen. Just sayin'.

I would not be satisfied with a 9TF device for a 1080P screen. I want all those TF to make a game look photorealistic at 1080P. I expect that games made with 12 Tflop for 1080P screens locked at 30FPS would look photorealistic.

 

[ThaMonkeyClaw]

This is literally the whole thread summed up into one GIF!

 

[DJ12]

"More than 8 times as powerful as vanilla PS4 and four times as powerful as the PS4 Pro",

Why the quotes Tommy Fisher

Who has this come from, Soony finally ready?

Please after disappointing pastebin after disappointing pastebin we need a glimmer of hope.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Sony is leading the pack. That's how you roll as an Alpha.