SegaSnatcher
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They need new hardware, not because of the need for prettier games, but for performance purposes. The hardware in the Switch was already pretty underpowered back in 2017.
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Nintendo Developers Reportedly Working on 4K Games for Unannounced System
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Marty-McFly
Banned
So what mobile chip do you propose they should have used instead?
existensmaximum
Member
I don't believe this one bit, to me it just sounds like fanboy dreams and nothing like what I expect from Nintendo.
But regardless of what I believe, all of you who are expecting DLSS support, do you actually think Nintendo would force every developer to add DLSS support to every game, or what? Since support needs to be added on a game to game basis.
Or to patch every previously released Switch game? Or just to a few select first-party games perhaps? I mean, DLSS is super neat and works great in some games but for Nintendo, of all companies, to make an effort and really invest in it?
To me it sounds incredibly far-fetched, or what am I missing?
Just want to hear your thoughts, since everyone seem so convinced this will be their thing.
But regardless of what I believe, all of you who are expecting DLSS support, do you actually think Nintendo would force every developer to add DLSS support to every game, or what? Since support needs to be added on a game to game basis.
Or to patch every previously released Switch game? Or just to a few select first-party games perhaps? I mean, DLSS is super neat and works great in some games but for Nintendo, of all companies, to make an effort and really invest in it?
To me it sounds incredibly far-fetched, or what am I missing?
Just want to hear your thoughts, since everyone seem so convinced this will be their thing.
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Marty-McFly
Banned
Bloomberg is full of shit. It's not "fanboy dreams" either, they are deliberately attempting to smear the OLED's launch.
What's most ridiculous is that they actually think they're relevant enough to do any damage.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Please Nintendo
Nintendo Developers Reportedly Working on 4K Games for Unannounced System
Prior to the official announcement of the Nintendo Switch OLED, Bloomberg reported that a new Switch model would be released with 4K capability, and a bigger, OLED screen. When the OLED version of the system was announced over the summer, many were surprised that the 4K aspect of that reporting...comicbook.com
Prior to the official announcement of the Nintendo Switch OLED, Bloomberg reported that a new Switch model would be released with 4K capability, and a bigger, OLED screen. When the OLED version of the system was announced over the summer, many were surprised that the 4K aspect of that reporting did not pan out. However, a new report published by Bloomberg alleges that several developers affiliated with Nintendo were given dev kits to work on 4K Nintendo games before the OLED reveal. Bloomberg claims that Nintendo pivoted from this plan, possibly as a result of the global chip shortage that has led to struggles across the video game industry.
Bloomberg has apparently identified 11 developers of varying sizes using these dev kits to work on games for Nintendo, despite the fact that there is no compatible Nintendo console. In Bloomberg's reporting, the only developer identified was Zynga, Inc., which is the team currently working on Star Wars: Hunters. Some of these developers apparently expect to release their 4K Nintendo games "during or after the second half of next year." This could mean that another Switch model is currently in development, or the successor to the Nintendo Switch might be released towards the end of 2022, or in early 2023. The Nintendo Switch released in the first quarter of 2017, so that would mean a six-year lifespan for the console, if that were to be the case.
Bloomberg apparently reached out to Nintendo about these reports, but the company called them "inaccurate," without going into further detail. Nintendo has always been notoriously tight-lipped, and has often intimated that it is always working on new hardware. A 4K console from the company is basically an inevitability at this point, but whether or not that was ever the plan for the Switch OLED is impossible to say for certain.
VolticArchangel
Member
"Bloomberg"
"Takashi Mochizuki"
"Takashi Mochizuki"
StateofMajora
Banned
The chip was ok ; they should have customized it more. I.E. 6gb ram with a 96 bit bus, all 4 cpu cores for games at a faster clockspeed. These 2 would have helped substantially. That would mean ram capacity on par wit ps4 (because it used 1gb for os as opposed to 3 for ps4), better graphics esp. in docked mode and less cpu headache for devs.
Alternatively they could wait 6 months and launch with the TX2. But that's a lot of money and time.
mcjmetroid
Member
Bloomberg haha have ye learnt nothing?
You're setting yourself up for disappointment again
You're setting yourself up for disappointment again
StateofMajora
Banned
It will output 4k, doesn't mean all games will be native. Although I could easily see smash being 4k native or mario kart even. Though I would rather see better graphics than native 4k.
SegaSnatcher
Member
I'm not saying they could have done much better in 2017, I'm just saying considering what game engines they needed to support its pretty lackluster.
kyliethicc
Member
4000 games is a fuck ton. Crazy launch lineup.
Onironauta
Member
In order to use an external gpu you'd need a high bandwidth connection to the dock, like through thunderbolt. I don't think anything like that is possible on the current switch.
Also, even if the switch has a performance boost when it's docked, that's just because of overclocking, it's not comparable to using an external gpu with a supposedly different and more modern architecture.
bender
What time is it?
They still had to balance for battery life which isn't the greatest in the first place.
martino
Member
It's also nintendo.The longer the next Switch takes, the better the tech will be
I will have no expectation one way or another...and because it's nintendo it's possible the next system is something totally different and not predicted.
StateofMajora
Banned
Sure, but using 6gb ram and a wider bus wouldn't affect that. Also, I'm not sure what the logic was for neutering the cpu in docked mode. The gpu is far faster docked, why not cpu?
4 cores at the same low clockspeed in handheld mode, and maybe 50% faster when docked would be nice.
For docked mode esp., the memory bandwidth just kills performance.
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Perrott
Member
They weren't talking about the OG Switch w/ an OLED screen that's releasing next week, but about the Pro model that at one point was planned for this year & got pushed back, of which the Switch OLED is sort of a replacement.
Woopah
Member
Nintendo won't force developers to use it, it will be optional. Some third parties will use it and some won't. Likewise for past games, the big, evergreen first party games will be patched but the vast majority of titles will not be.
Those are my expectations anyway.
existensmaximum
Member
Exactly, so the results would be a small impact, and there would be almost nothing "4k" about this console then. At least nothing close to what some people here are expecting from a DLSS enabled Switch.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
They learned they made a lot of money from those clicks before. So why not do it again?
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
I would rather Nintendo chase current gen compatibility then 4k.
They should use DLSS to get current gen games from 540 -720p to 1080-1440p.
They should use DLSS to get current gen games from 540 -720p to 1080-1440p.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
It will output at 4K just because everyone has a 4K TV.
Woopah
Member
I'd expect every first party game released after the model to use DLSS, and a large number of third party games too. May even be a couple of games that run on this model but not that other models.
Resolution isn't something I care about, but I think DLSS will be a great tool for Nintendo for their successor system that will help them get better third party support.
Dream-Knife
Banned
I wish people would quit with dlss. This is Nintendo, not some dream machine you thought up.
People were making up stuff about a switch pro in 2017. Your wishful thinking is not reality.
People were making up stuff about a switch pro in 2017. Your wishful thinking is not reality.
StateofMajora
Banned
I wouldn't count on it. Those Nintendo devs really like sharp, unprocessed pixels.
DLSS will be great but it's not free, and comes with some softness due to the temporal stuff. And artificial sharpening. But it will keep getting better over time, who knows how good 3.0 will be.
StateofMajora
Banned
I mean they definitely have access to Nvidia chips with dlss.
I think it would be foolish if Nintendo doesn't offer dlss. Ray tracing on the other hand is a pipe dream I think, for most titles unless you want low res.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
Nintendo will probably drop Nvidia for the Switch 2 and go back to some chip no one ever heard of before like with the 3DS.
Lucifers Beard
Member
That’s great but I think I’m more interested in them chasing 1080p handheld with solid performance. The one thing that’s been a bit frustrating is Nintendo having games on the system that run badly and don’t necessarily look good.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
Don't tell me you almost fell for it after 2 years of Switch Pro rumours on "News" websites.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Finally the Wii U 4K we've all been waiting for
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Marty-McFly
Banned
Nintendo Plans Switch Model With Bigger Samsung OLED Display
Nintendo Co. plans to unveil a model of its Switch gaming console equipped with a bigger Samsung OLED display this year, hoping the larger touchscreen can prop up demand in time for the holidays, people familiar with the plan said.
www.bloomberg.com
What Bloomberg Intelligence says
“The release of a more premium version of Nintendo’s Switch console with an OLED display and support for 4K graphics for the holiday 2021 selling season could drive the company’s sales above consensus for the fiscal year ending March 2022 and extend the life cycle of the Switch platform for many more years.”
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GeekyDad
Member
I don't believe that's been their philosophy at all, really. It's, to me, been more of a "do what no one else is doing" philosophy. So, who knows...
If they read the market a certain way (which they sure seem pretty good at), they may go with something high-powered that works along similar lines as the Switch -- handheld/TV-based hybrid.
So Bloomberg doesn't know what they're talking about, or intentionally misleading people.
Nintendo Plans Switch Model With Bigger Samsung OLED Display
Nintendo Co. plans to unveil a model of its Switch gaming console equipped with a bigger Samsung OLED display this year, hoping the larger touchscreen can prop up demand in time for the holidays, people familiar with the plan said.What Bloomberg Intelligence says
“The release of a more premium version of Nintendo’s Switch console with an OLED display and support for 4K graphics for the holiday 2021 selling season could drive the company’s sales above consensus for the fiscal year ending March 2022 and extend the life cycle of the Switch platform for many more years.”
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
tommib
Banned
Nintendo issues denial on new 4K Nintendo Switch report
Nintendo has issued a denial on a new 4K Nintendo Switch report.
www.eurogamer.net
YOU PC BRO?!
Gold Member
A 4K console from Nintendo would be a god send. Finally put an end to the horrible aliasing issues that literally plague almost every game they have ever made.
yurinka
Member
Nintendo lying to their investors, even mentioning them directly in that quote?
BlackTron
Member
The Switch and Dock aren't really "working together", it supplies power and a video pass-through.
When docked, the Switch unlocks its higher clock mode that requires more power draw.
I highly doubt that they would want to make a dock with a dedicated GPU to improve performance. Nintendo will keep it at one GPU for cost and simplicity's sake.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Great, another year of baseless speculation incoming.
yurinka
Member
I think both Switch Pro rumors and a major MS acquisition rumors for this month are the same: bullshit fan wish fake rumors with no facts or credible leakers backing them that only will cause dissapointment between their fans.
I suggest to don't believe this kind of rumors until we get something more or less official.