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PS5 Pro Best Buy Listing (mentions 4K using PSSR at 60fps-120fps with RT all at the same time for compatible titles)
Bernoulli
M2 slut
rocket league
Crispy Gamer
Member
That is interesting 
OverHeat
« generous god »
GTFO
Bojji
Member
Games that already have 120fps mode will obviously have better framerate if they are GPU limited.
But 120fps mode if base PS5 don't have it? I don't think it will happen very often (game has to be light on the cpu) and there is no reason why base console shouldn't have it with low enough resolution (like starfield on series s, hahaha).
I just can't believe that people that are somewhat tech oriented (that's why they want Pro in the first place) can believe bullshit like: better resolution/IQ AND better framerate AND better RT AND higher graphical options, 8k etc. AT THE SAME TIME.
With 45% power increase it can't be all that and we already know that with first wave of games.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Love the 120hz boost for those games that need it or lacked a locked 120 option.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
so boost mode and image enhancement are 2 separate settings for ps4 games? when running on ps5pro
GoldenEye98
posts news as their odd job
P(i)SSR > PCMR
XXL
Member
Minus RT we literally just saw that with Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth today.
But regardless...
No one thinks the PS5 Pro is going to have the newest current games running at 4K, 120fps with RT.....It just sounds like some older games could.
Stop misrepresenting what people are saying.
BacklashWave534
Member
Wonder how many games can do native 4k 60fps. My guess is 99% of them rely on frame gen. Knowing Sony i'm sure some of these game upgrades will come at a cost as well.
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Bojji
Member
We only saw bump in performance and reconstruction added, resolution and effects remained the same.
If all this is about PS4 games then forget what I said, I fucked up while reading.
Then again, there is no technical reason why normal PS5 couldn't boost PS4 games if sony can indeed unlock them on system level, console is already more than 8x more powerful in GPU and 3x+ in CPU than base PS4 (2x better GPU than in Pro). Locking it to only PS5 Pro would be completely artificial.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
XXL
Member
Why does it have to be native?
If the image is crisp, who cares how they got there?
All indications seem to be this.....PS5 Pro versions have a better image than the fidelity mode of the PS5 versions, but at 60fps (or twice the frame rate).
Regardless if they're native or not.
Bulletbrain
Member
Ah yes the good ol' packaging snippets. The most reliable of all advertising there is.
XXL
Member
Stop worrying about the native resolutions, it's doesn't really seem to matter.
We have had example after example....so again....The PS5 Pro versions seem have a better image than the fidelity mode on PS5, but running at twice the frame rate (generally 60fps).
Regardless of the native resolutions.
We have seen multiple examples of this this week.
As long as they're achieving a better image, I don't think anyone cares about how they are getting to it.
Mr Moose
Member
Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War runs beautifully on PS5 and Series X
This is impressive stuff. Call of Duty Black Ops: Cold War manages the cross-gen transition gracefully, delivering exce…
www.eurogamer.net
This is "4k"/60fps with RT shadows, there's 120Hz mode without the RT shadows.
FrankWza
Gold Member
Ah yes the good ol' packaging snippets. The most reliable of all advertising there is.
bender
What time is it?
GTFO
Canada in shambles.
XXL
Member
Sounds like it.
There's practically zero grinding in GT7 if you only want to complete the hefty single-player campaign and additional events. The game rewards you with the necessary prize cars to continue onto the next stage in the campaign. Grinding is required if you want to collect all 550-600 cars. But even then we are talking about a literal handful of ultra rare exotics, many of them classics, that the casual player is unlikely to be interested in.
GT7 has received a huge amount of free DLC and that looks unlikely to stop. Many are expecting a big update to coincide with PS5 Pro.
We'll have to see what devs do. It's worth bearing in mind PSSR can be added to any PS5 title (and theoretically PS4) by means of a patch. On PS4 Pro you could only add Checkerboard Rendering if the title was updated to the latest SDK. This was a costly and time consuming step. We should see many older titles make use of PSSR as it's simply a case of replacing FSR2 (or whatever upscaling method the dev used) with PSSR.
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Didn't MS do this with the series s? They had a video saying it would have parity with the SX, but with lower resolutions. They made the video private.Ah yes the good ol' packaging snippets. The most reliable of all advertising there is.
OverHeat
« generous god »
So?
bender
What time is it?
Bulletbrain
Member
Would not be surprised a tiny bit if they did this. Point is: retail/packaging snippets should always be looked at with a bucket load of salt.
XXL
Member
Thinking over it some more I remembered.
TLOU Part 1 had an unlocked framerate, it was around 80fps-90fps at times and God of War Ragnarok I believe had an unlocked framerate again 80fps-90fps at times.
I'm wondering if those could be increased to 120fps while using PSSR to upscale to 4K with some RT features added.
TLOU Part 1 had an unlocked framerate, it was around 80fps-90fps at times and God of War Ragnarok I believe had an unlocked framerate again 80fps-90fps at times.
I'm wondering if those could be increased to 120fps while using PSSR to upscale to 4K with some RT features added.
FrankWza
Gold Member
The x also has an 8k logo internally on the board.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Like DLSS. Now native is rearing its head? Painfully transparent.
sachos
Member
Thats the one i thought about, the 7700XT already can do 120+FPS but at 1080p native res. Maybe possible 4K PSSR Performance. Do we know how much better the RDNA4 RT will be compared to RDNA3?
This one seems harder, the 7700XT is doing 54FPS at native 1080p. All these tests are done with Ultra settings though, maybe if they drop to a Mix of High/Medium they could do it, and again, how much better the RDNA4 RT is compared to 3.
Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/galax-geforce-rtx-4070-super-ex/33.html
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
A month before it's release is typical.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
7700XT doesn't have PSSR.Thats the one i thought about, the 7700XT already can do 120+FPS but at 1080p native res. Maybe possible 4K PSSR Performance. Do we know how much better the RDNA4 RT will be compared to RDNA3?
This one seems harder, the 7700XT is doing 54FPS at native 1080p. All these tests are done with Ultra settings though, maybe if they drop to a Mix of High/Medium they could do it, and again, how much better the RDNA4 RT is compared to 3.
Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/galax-geforce-rtx-4070-super-ex/33.html
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
PSSR will give you better image quality but it can't give you extra raster performance.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It will give you better image quality and scale from a lower resolution while appearing native. Thus, they can lower rez and PSSR boost it.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
So what should we call the extra frames afforded by these ML technologies that can produce similar, and sometimes better, pixel detail than native rendering?
Fortuneelsewhere
Member
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think that is nothing preventing devs to use FSR Frame Generation with PSSR. I think in the latest updates frame generation now can work with any other upscaler in the market.
killatopak
Gold Member
I think I'm very vocal about my love of replaying games and by extension BC.
Bestbuy listing Pro improves PS4 games as well will be a huge factor in my purchase.
First game to test would be Bloodborne.
Bestbuy listing Pro improves PS4 games as well will be a huge factor in my purchase.
First game to test would be Bloodborne.
Zathalus
Member
I really enjoyed it, don't expect much of a story or career but the racing, cars, and track variety are all great. The cafe thing with all the information they give you regarding the history of cars and racing is also pretty interesting.
The DLC thing is Horizon I believe, GT7 just really has the ability to buy credits, but it is not needed.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The beginning of the collapse of society.
GHG
Member
Live footage of Cerny consoling Alex.
DanielG165
Member
No, as has been the case with all of the “Pro” consoles thus far.
GHG
Member
Honestly… AI generated or Real Footage?
If its real, this is fucking
It's real, and here he is after Cerny finished giving him that PSSR (you will see why these are spoliered):
