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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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FunkMiller
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War is about information as much as it is weaponry. I don’t for one second think we’re being told everything about what’s going on with arming Ukraine.
Wildebeest
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I think it is good to let Russia know that Ukraine is getting support for their artillery because it might make Russia more hesitant to dig in with their artillery and shell civilians.
FunkMiller
Banned
If you go take a look at old uncle Sun Tzu (which anyone who wants to understand warfare really should) you’ll see that Russia is pretty much doing the exact opposite of everything he says.
This rather indicates to me that provided Ukraine is given enough weaponry that they know how to use, they are going to win. Not without horrific cost, however.
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
being an armchair follower of this war id agree with his assessment, Russia's failed attempt to take the North simply showed how utterly incompetent their army was in every facet, this renewed phase will be no different and with more and more heavy weapons heading to Ukraine they'll be able to bomb the shit out of the Russian front line outside the range of their artillery and with superior SAM support to protect them, sooner or later the morale of the Russians simply sent to the front to be cannon fodder will collapse and the whole operation will implode, its just a pity Nato is reluctant to get directly involved otherwise the whole thing would be over within the week
Wildebeest
Member
I think Putin read the part in Sun Tzu about killing people as an example to make others follow your orders, then didn't think he needed to know more.
The ideas that people were using from the start to say that Russia couldn't win were more from Clausewitz, I think. Clausewitz was famous for integrating thoughts about the political situations of countries in military strategy. Like, the fact that Ukrainians were so willing to fight meant that it would be almost impossible to outright defeat them. Clausewitz made the argument that war was not symmetric because defenders had a much stronger will to fight on than attackers.
NoLootBoxDev
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Some good news:
Fuck Putin as my "daily"
Fuck Putin as my "daily"
NoLootBoxDev
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Kremlin again threatens the world with blows for assistance to Ukraine "If someone wants to interfere in the situation in Ukraine from outside and create a threat of a strategic nature, the blows will be lightning-fast".
t.me/Tsapli...
Putin warned that any countries meddling in Ukraine would be met with a swift response
bbc.com/news/l...
All I can see:
akimbo009
Gold Member
Love it. Almost there EU.
Makoto-Yuki
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so putin wants to attack the UK? hahahahahahahahahaha
Russia will be wiped off the face of the earth if he tries it. He's a pathetic little coward and his army is struggling against Ukraine. Attack the UK and we will turn up along with France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Iceland, Poland, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Canada, United States, etc.
we'll see how that works out for you.
Russia will be wiped off the face of the earth if he tries it. He's a pathetic little coward and his army is struggling against Ukraine. Attack the UK and we will turn up along with France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Iceland, Poland, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Canada, United States, etc.
we'll see how that works out for you.
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Romulus
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MastaKiiLA
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Putin warned that any countries meddling in Ukraine would be met with a swift response
bbc.com/news/l...
He's not wrong. I'm sure the Ukraine says thank you every time another country helps out.
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It’s nuclear war or nothing, and nuclear war is suicide. The only real questions are how suicidal is Putin and who will stand up to him if he tries it.Kremlin again threatens the world with blows for assistance to Ukraine "If someone wants to interfere in the situation in Ukraine from outside and create a threat of a strategic nature, the blows will be lightning-fast".
t.me/Tsapli...
Putin warned that any countries meddling in Ukraine would be met with a swift response
bbc.com/news/l...
All I can see:
Ionian
Member
John Deere has it handled.
Been driven in one, they do fuck your ass up. Bumpy as fuck. Also very expensive. (less than a tank though).
Enjoy your hemorrhoids Russians.
Ionian
Member
He'll be killed before it gets to that. Hopefully.
Artoris
Gold Member
Or he could fully mobilize
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Deleted member 1159
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If he tries and keeps it to conventional warfare, that would also be suicide. The inept and rotten carcass that is the Russian army has been exposed to the world. If they didn’t have nukes they’d be annihilated in weeks.
TheDreadLord
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According to militar specialists, the number of artillery received by Ukraine could filll up to 7 battalions. So this denotes that their original artillery was completely wiped out by Russia. I am not sure about that tough, doesn’t seem easy to find more concrete information.
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With his 50s army
Yup. I bet most of his nukes won’t even launch
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I'd like to think that the people in Putin's inner circle will see the insanity of nuclear war and put an end to him.
Catphish
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Thought this was a good read...
www.foreignaffairs.com
Why the War in Ukraine Won’t Go Nuclear
Old rules still apply to a new era of limited conflict.
NoLootBoxDev
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Deleted member 1159
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A small percentage of thousands would be enough…Yup. I bet most of his nukes won’t even launch
Honestly, we can only hope this is the case…which isn’t great when being wrong means a nuclear holocaust
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Putin has complicated things
MastaKiiLA
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All of Russia would be turned to radioactive glass by every other nuclear power in the world. It would be an all against one scenario. The reality is that for all the saber rattling, these people are complete cowards who do not want to die. Nuclear war means Russia is erased from the map, and the rest of the world picks up the pieces ala Japan post-WW2. There is zero chance of a nuclear war IMO. Just doesn't make any logical sense outside of the entire Russian leadership becoming suicidal.
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I don’t think nuclear war is likely at all, but even if it’s a 1% chance it’s nothing to scoff at
Doesn’t matter , no one is ever using them . After what happened in Japan.
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Sakura
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Only a handful of countries have nuclear weapons, and probably 90%+ of said nuclear weapons are possessed by just the USA and Russia.
I do agree though that there will not be any nuclear war.
GymWolf
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Just an ignorant question, can they actually bombard russia with nukes without hurting the close innocent regions?
I mean, it's not like they can put a shield around russia to contain all the radioactive stuff...
It has to be a logistic disaster trying to ONLY hit russia when it comes to nuclear weapons, right?
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It wouldn't matter at that point. The winds just don't stop blowing. I watched a Ted talk on what would happen if just Pakistan and India went at it and it was pretty much game over.
akimbo009
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Holy shit that's awesome
FatallyYours
Member
I'd assume if they don't already have large stock piles of conventional weapons, the US especially would very easily be able to ramp up production of anything needed. Just look at the tonnage of material they created and shipped across the Atlantic during ww2
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Bitmap Frogs
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TransTrender
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Wildebeest
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I don't know anything for sure, which is why I can speak freely about it, naturally. The reports I hear say that one reason why Ukraine needs so much NATO artillery is that NATO does not stock or manufacture the old soviet rounds used by their artillery, and they only have so much in stock.
MikeM
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So Russia should blow itself. HeheKremlin again threatens the world with blows for assistance to Ukraine "If someone wants to interfere in the situation in Ukraine from outside and create a threat of a strategic nature, the blows will be lightning-fast".
t.me/Tsapli...
Putin warned that any countries meddling in Ukraine would be met with a swift response
bbc.com/news/l...
All I can see:
Rat Rage
Member
A nuclear war doesn't make sense at all. Putin is a narcissistic sociopath with a huge power fetish and some paranoid tendencies. Like most megalomaniac dictators, he's deeply concerned about his legacy.
Will he be remembered as a victorious russian leader that "made russia great again", or as one that tried, but ultimately failed because the villainous democracies around the world were simply too strong, or will he go down as the biggest retard in russian history, who was responsible for literally destroying russia forever, because he started a nonsensical nuclear war?
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I don’t think any war with the west makes sense, much less nuclear war. That’s why I said it was suicide…Putin basically is toothless against the west unless he wants to use nukes, and that would mean killing himself. So the basic point I was making was he’s not going to do shit
NoLootBoxDev
Member
Seriously? and yes, I know that is their script, but at some point you have to start questioning what you are talking about...
FunkMiller
Banned
Those worried about nuclear war:
Putin started this conflict threatening that if NATO helps Ukraine, he will go nuclear.
NATO is now piling more and more heavy weaponry into Ukraine every day. Why hasn’t he gone nuclear yet?
Putin started this conflict threatening that if NATO helps Ukraine, he will go nuclear.
NATO is now piling more and more heavy weaponry into Ukraine every day. Why hasn’t he gone nuclear yet?
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
I know I've had a hard-on for Kherson and I know it's unrealistic, but UKR is inching closer. Today there were reports of actual fighting at Chernobaivka and UKR launched missile strikes against military targets inside Kherson.
If they manage to take the city and save the bridge I would be very happy.
If they manage to take the city and save the bridge I would be very happy.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Seriously? and yes, I know that is their script, but at some point you have to start questioning what you are talking about...
Ukrainian saboteurs need to destroy these Russian TV stations, and rid us of these ridiculous Russian self-righteous victimhood routines.
Seriously? and yes, I know that is their script, but at some point you have to start questioning what you are talking about...
Ooh heaven is a place on Earth.
They're already contemplating suicide. Talk about speedrunning the Reich storyline.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Because he would then have to say bye to his superyachts, his palaces, and all that sweet gravy he and his cronies have been swimming in at the expense of everyone else.
dotnotbot
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Today he repeated that threat and it seems like:
- he only means direct help? doesn't seem to care too much about supplying weapons which is still a puzzle to me
- everyone thought that 'consequences we have never seen in our history' (not a direct quote but something like that) mean using nuclear weapons but today he stated he would use something that no one else has? what could that be?
- the response will be instantenous so we definitely didn't earn it yet
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