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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

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Mikado

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So tired of all the excuses.

Shit tier leadership.

So you know when there's like... a package of bacon in your fridge.
And it's been there a while and it's getting kind of sketchy.
But you don't really want to eat it, but you'll feel bad about throwing it out if it still has a chance of being good.
So you just sort of leave it there. For weeks.
Until eventually it gets so rotten and you don't have to make a decision anymore because, well of course it's gone bad.
 
So you know when there's like... a package of bacon in your fridge.
And it's been there a while and it's getting kind of sketchy.
But you don't really want to eat it, but you'll feel bad about throwing it out if it still has a chance of being good.
So you just sort of leave it there. For weeks.
Until eventually it gets so rotten and you don't have to make a decision anymore because, well of course it's gone bad.

Is Olaf Scholz the bacon?
 

Tams

Member
If they get executed I hope the brits give ukraine their strongest weapons.
We already have. All that's left that is some long range rockets artillery that we don't even have much of ourselves and we're sending some of that.

The rest is either too valuable to give Ukraine or there's no chance they'll pass the training in time.

Well, there's Challenger 2s, but we barely have enough for ourselves, and the war seems to have turned away from tanks being that important.

No, any real further intervention from us would have to be our forces directly. Now, that could also be couched as Ukrainian forces work...
 

Liljagare

Member
We already have. All that's left that is some long range rockets artillery that we don't even have much of ourselves and we're sending some of that.

The rest is either too valuable to give Ukraine or there's no chance they'll pass the training in time.

Well, there's Challenger 2s, but we barely have enough for ourselves, and the war seems to have turned away from tanks being that important.

No, any real further intervention from us would have to be our forces directly. Now, that could also be couched as Ukrainian forces work...

Its time to start messing back towards the RuSSkies.

Transfer command of the Ghurkas and all allied foreign legions to answer under UA leadership.

It's the same shit the RuSS are doing by conscripting from occupied territories.
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion


I never before heard how bullet sounds, the high pitch noise is really fucking terrifying.
 
I hope he gets out of the country safe.
I think from them doing it in absentia, and his posts in response, he’s probably already out of the country and wisely not divulging where he is right now.

Right after the warrant he sent this on Telegram (google translated):


“My first corner! ❤️‍🔥 I am accused of discrediting the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for a post on Instagram. Article 207.3, part 2. As an aggravating circumstance - the accusation of the President of the Russian Federation of unleashing a war with Ukraine. I am ready to repeat everything that is said there: “Stop the war! Recognize that this is a war against an entire nation and stop it!”
 
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Russians withdraw Buryat troops from Sievierodonetsk because they're dropping like flies - Haidai​


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yahoo.com/news/r...
 

TwinB242

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Latest polls from May show that 77% of Russian people still support the 'special military operation'. Call me a Russiaphobia, but I think the average Russian is beyond saving at this point. I hope the few sensible ones have left the country already or are planning on leaving. As for everyone else, I hope the sanctions eventually cripple their economy and they all end up living miserable lives.
 
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Tams

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It seems that their own broken, wartorn countries weren't enough. Now they are doing the same to Ukriane.


Its time to start messing back towards the RuSSkies.

Transfer command of the Ghurkas and all allied foreign legions to answer under UA leadership.

It's the same shit the RuSS are doing by conscripting from occupied territories.

Sorry, but I don't want British troops under Ukrainian command, as much as I admire and respect them. They're British troops and that's not negotiable. The Gurkhas included; they are a full-fledged part of the British Army and not mercenaries. If a British Gurkha were ever tried or worse as a mercenary by any country, I'd advocate said country having it's leadership bombed into oblivion.
 
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winjer

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The US army hires several PMCs at a regular base. To avoid some legal issues that normal armies have.
Maybe some of these PMCs would make a discount to Ukraine, with the help of uncle Sam.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Ukrainian top officials are talking about something big happening soon, in the coming weeks.

Is it a lie to lift morale? Is there something happening? Time will tell.
 
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Deleted member 1159

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So you know when there's like... a package of bacon in your fridge.
And it's been there a while and it's getting kind of sketchy.
But you don't really want to eat it, but you'll feel bad about throwing it out if it still has a chance of being good.
So you just sort of leave it there. For weeks.
Until eventually it gets so rotten and you don't have to make a decision anymore because, well of course it's gone bad.
This is why you have a dog
 

Majukun

Member
Latest polls from May show that 77% of Russian people still support the 'special military operation'. Call me a Russiaphobia, but I think the average Russian is beyond saving at this point. I hope the few sensible ones have left the country already or are planning on leaving. As for everyone else, I hope the sanctions eventually cripple their economy and they all end up living miserable lives.
propaganda does that to you...how many americans were ok with the invasion of Iraq because " they have weapons of mass destruction" despite that being complete bullshit?

Ukrainian top officials are talking about something big happening soon, in the coming weeks.

Is it a lie to lift morale? Is there something happening? Time will tell.
probably psychological warfare.
you don't usually annpunce a big operation, you keep it quiet, but the suspicion like you said will keep morale high and russian troops under stress
 
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Tams

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propaganda does that to you...how many americans were ok with the invasion of Iraq because " they have weapons of mass destruction" despite that being complete bullshit?

Only, there were quite a few good reasons to invade Iraq on top of the of bullshit WMD stuff. Saddam not only had chemical weapons, he'd fucking used them.

Now, enough for an invasion? Likely not, and those who either falsely pushed the WMD stuff, or clung to it were idiots.

Russia had and has precisely zero good reasons. Even for their own gain this was an utterly stupid move (in hindsight, as they will have been the ones snuffing up their own propaganda about how great the Russian armed forces were more than anyone else).
 

winjer

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propaganda does that to you...how many americans were ok with the invasion of Iraq because " they have weapons of mass destruction" despite that being complete bullshit?

probably psychological warfare.
you don't usually annpunce a big operation, you keep it quiet, but the suspicion like you said will keep morale high and russian troops under stress

Yeah, propaganda does that to you...

Might I remind you that one of the largest protests ever, in the World, was against the start of the invasion of Iraq.
Millions of people, across many countries protesting the war, openly.



Meanwhile in Russia, Putin still holds a 80% approval rating.
 

V4skunk

Banned
Latest polls from May show that 77% of Russian people still support the 'special military operation'. Call me a Russiaphobia, but I think the average Russian is beyond saving at this point. I hope the few sensible ones have left the country already or are planning on leaving. As for everyone else, I hope the sanctions eventually cripple their economy and they all end up living miserable lives.
Ukraine is no angel.
Let them kill each other because if we get involved it's ww3 and you will be forced to die on a battlefield or nuclear fire.
 

FunkMiller

Banned
The situation with the captured British soldiers is interesting.

Under any other circumstance, the murder of a nation’s soldiers in direct contravention of Geneva is a very decent casus belli.

Now, that’s not going to happen, but the UK government should be impressing upon its international partners that their murder will be met with retaliation.

That should focus the minds of some nations who are now in full appeasement mode of Putin.
 

Majukun

Member
Only, there were quite a few good reasons to invade Iraq on top of the of bullshit WMD stuff. Saddam not only had chemical weapons, he'd fucking used them.

Now, enough for an invasion? Likely not, and those who either falsely pushed the WMD stuff, or clung to it were idiots.

Russia had and has precisely zero good reasons. Even for their own gain this was an utterly stupid move (in hindsight, as they will have been the ones snuffing up their own propaganda about how great the Russian armed forces were more than anyone else).
zelenski has been sold to the russian pubblic in a non dissimiliar way from saddam, he is depicted as a nazi puppet of "the west" , oppressor of the russian minorities, bent on the defeat of russia and that apparently allowed "the west" to test chimical weapons in ukraine that would serve in a future attack against russia.

of course it's bullshit, but that's the only version a lot of russian have heard and keep hearing

Yeah, propaganda does that to you...

Might I remind you that one of the largest protests ever, in the World, was against the start of the invasion of Iraq.
Millions of people, across many countries protesting the war, openly.

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Meanwhile in Russia, Putin still holds a 80% approval rating.
exactly, across many countries..in the US (the country in my example, not sure why you are considering the entire world) according to that same wiki page you would reach little more than 1mln protesters...on a population of more than 320 mln.
and still according to wikipedia, the approval of the military action against Iraq amoung US citizens was 64%

and that's without considering how much freely you could express and gauge dissent in 2003 US vs present day russia
 

V4skunk

Banned
You're either a Putler shill or have bricks for brains.
Let them kill each other it has nothing to do with us unless a Nato member gets attacked.
WW3 could easily happen and we would all be screwed, we even have China today threatening Taiwan with invasion due to the one China policy and Taiwanese independence. Shit is going to get wild and will probably escalate.
Go watch some war footage and see some dead bodies, people getting blown up and the victims like civilians that get their homes destroyed and family killed etc...Loads of channels on telegram documenting the war and war is savage.
You are a retard if you want war.
 

Tams

Member
Let them kill each other it has nothing to do with us unless a Nato member gets attacked.
WW3 could easily happen and we would all be screwed, we even have China today threatening Taiwan with invasion due to the one China policy and Taiwanese independence. Shit is going to get wild and will probably escalate.
Go watch some war footage and see some dead bodies, people getting blown up and the victims like civilians that get their homes destroyed and family killed etc...Loads of channels on telegram documenting the war and war is savage.
You are a retard if you want war.
Do I want war? No of course not.

But you are an idiot if you think Russia winning, which not helping Ukraine would mean, would make wider war less likely. You apparently watch/read the news, yet appear to have missed Putin comparing himself to Peter the fucking Great. You do know what that means if Russia win in Ukraine?

And if Russia win Ukraine, what they would do aside, how do you think the PRC would take that? They'd see the West and democracy as weak and invade Taiwan for sure at some point.

And that's not even touching upon how it's frankly morally right to support Ukraine against having their country invaded, snatched from them, destroyed, and their people brutalised all because of some stupid natuonalism and one psychopath's demented dreams.

tl:dr: stop being a selfish, ignorant arsehole.
 

Atrus

Gold Member
Let them kill each other it has nothing to do with us unless a Nato member gets attacked.
WW3 could easily happen and we would all be screwed, we even have China today threatening Taiwan with invasion due to the one China policy and Taiwanese independence. Shit is going to get wild and will probably escalate.
Go watch some war footage and see some dead bodies, people getting blown up and the victims like civilians that get their homes destroyed and family killed etc...Loads of channels on telegram documenting the war and war is savage.
You are a retard if you want war.

Your mistake was in pretending you were one of “us” while viewing and recommending Russian garbage like Telegram. I think you’ll find the lines drawn quite differently.

People would prefer to avoid war where possible but some consequences are not acceptable even if it means greater risks of conflict.

Just because you’d let Putin have his way so long as he lets you live doesn’t mean everyone shares that mindset.
 
Your mistake was in pretending you were one of “us” while viewing and recommending Russian garbage like Telegram. I think you’ll find the lines drawn quite differently.

People would prefer to avoid war where possible but some consequences are not acceptable even if it means greater risks of conflict.

Just because you’d let Putin have his way so long as he lets you live doesn’t mean everyone shares that mindset.
Ya know. First off fuck Putin. Period. Agreed.


Secondly for a fella who has probably never won a fistfight you sure seem to be able to decide the fate of people living behind a daily life or end of life reality (financially or physically) in an easy manner. I'm going to guess and hope you're in you're early 20's and haven't quote figured out how the world works.
 
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niilokin

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Secondly for a fella who has probably never won a fistfight you sure seem to be able to decide the fate of people living behind a daily life or end of life reality (financially or physically) in an easy manner. I'm going to guess and hope you're in you're early 20's and haven't quote figured out how the world works.
you should call putin , he will listen to your wise words :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Atrus

Gold Member
Ya know. First off fuck Putin. Period. Agreed.

Secondly for a fella who has probably never won a fistfight you sure seem to be able to decide the fate of people living behind a daily life or end of life reality (financially or physically) in an easy manner. I'm going to guess and hope you're in you're early 20's and haven't quote figured out how the world works.

Basing your scale of violence on an international forum around winning "fistfights" pretty much telegraphs sweaterdouche.

The fact of the matter is that in many cultures there is a concept of dignity and shame whose values supercedes life itself. The ability to put your own self at risk in pursuit of a greater vision or goal is a hallmark of success and succesful people.

Losers on the other hand want to risk nothing for others and will do anything to live another second as a loser. Nobody respects them, few if any ever love them, and everyone celebrates their passing.
 

FunkMiller

Banned
Secondly for a fella who has probably never won a fistfight you sure seem to be able to decide the fate of people living behind a daily life or end of life reality (financially or physically) in an easy manner. I'm going to guess and hope you're in you're early 20's and haven't quote figured out how the world works.

The way the world works kid (if you’re going to patronise other posters then I’ll do the same thing to you) is that when a nation state commits war atrocities and attempted genocide against an innocent population from another country, the correct and only response to that is punitive warfare. Any other position is either born of cowardice, stupidity, naivety or an allegiance to the aggressor.
 
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nemiroff

Gold Member
Ukraine is no angel.
Let them kill each other
What does being an angel have to do with being encroached, invaded, murdered, raped, tortured and pillaged in your own peaceful country. You have to be an angel to not having to endure this? How does that make any sense. "Let them kill themselves", wtf man. It's 2022 and you're on a pretty much international forum, so distancing yourself from real life like a privileged little asshole will not get you very far. Some of us got Ukrainian (and Russian) family members and close friends, and/or are actual human beings with morals and sense of right and wrong, so why don't you sincerely go fuck yourself.
 
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winjer

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exactly, across many countries..in the US (the country in my example, not sure why you are considering the entire world) according to that same wiki page you would reach little more than 1mln protesters...on a population of more than 320 mln.
and still according to wikipedia, the approval of the military action against Iraq amoung US citizens was 64%

and that's without considering how much freely you could express and gauge dissent in 2003 US vs present day russia

Did you forgot the part that before the war started, 63% of Americans wanted Bush to find a diplomatic solution.

You'll never find 63% of Russians wanting a diplomatic solution for the war in Ukraine.
 

FunkMiller

Banned
What does being an angel have to do with being encroached, invaded, murdered, raped, tortured and pillaged in your own peaceful country. You have to be an angel to not having to endure this? How does that make any sense. "Let them kill themselves", wtf man. It's 2022 and you're on a pretty much international forum, so distancing yourself from real life like a privileged little asshole will not get you very far. Some of us got Ukrainian (and Russian) family members and close friends, and/or are actual human beings with morals and sense of right and wrong, so why don't you sincerely go fuck yourself.

A tankie idiot. Pay him no mind.
 

Majukun

Member
Did you forgot the part that before the war started, 63% of Americans wanted Bush to find a diplomatic solution.

You'll never find 63% of Russians wanting a diplomatic solution for the war in Ukraine.
the entire war was sold to russian as "not a war but a military op"

noobody ever says openly to be pro war, because war=bad

but peace keeping? military operation? pre emptive measures? sure

also, what would have been a diplomatic solution to the iraq invasion?please saddam step down from power because we ask you to, pretty please?
if this was an option for ukraine, just asking zelinski to hand over the rebel territories and step down in favor of a pro-russia leader and no blood shed, i'm sure you would get an overwhelming majority in favor in russia as well.
 

Tams

Member
the entire war was sold to russian as "not a war but a military op"

noobody ever says openly to be pro war, because war=bad

but peace keeping? military operation? pre emptive measures? sure

also, what would have been a diplomatic solution to the iraq invasion?please saddam step down from power because we ask you to, pretty please?
if this was an option for ukraine, just asking zelinski to hand over the rebel territories and step down in favor of a pro-russia leader and no blood shed, i'm sure you would get an overwhelming majority in favor in russia as well.
I agree with your assessment of Iraq; Saddam was a nasty fucker.

But it's a false equivalence with Russia. Yes, from a Russian perspective it is similar, but that doesn't change that Russia's invasion is morally repugnant and that Ukraine have done nothing to deserve this suffering.
 

Majukun

Member
I agree with your assessment of Iraq; Saddam was a nasty fucker.

But it's a false equivalence with Russia. Yes, from a Russian perspective it is similar, but that doesn't change that Russia's invasion is morally repugnant and that Ukraine have done nothing to deserve this suffering.
well the entire argument was around russian perspective, so i'm glad we agree.
we also agree on the aggression being immoral and that ukraine is the victim here.
 

V4skunk

Banned
Do I want war? No of course not.

But you are an idiot if you think Russia winning, which not helping Ukraine would mean, would make wider war less likely. You apparently watch/read the news, yet appear to have missed Putin comparing himself to Peter the fucking Great. You do know what that means if Russia win in Ukraine?

And if Russia win Ukraine, what they would do aside, how do you think the PRC would take that? They'd see the West and democracy as weak and invade Taiwan for sure at some point.

And that's not even touching upon how it's frankly morally right to support Ukraine against having their country invaded, snatched from them, destroyed, and their people brutalised all because of some stupid natuonalism and one psychopath's demented dreams.

tl:dr: stop being a selfish, ignorant arsehole.
Take your meds. Not once did you fucks care about any other war waged by usa/uk in the middle east because the TV didn't tell you to get mad.
Russia will also win the conflict just because they have 1 million active serving members of the military with 2 million in reserve and over 4000 rusted T72 and 2000 even more rusted T64 in storage.
What does being an angel have to do with being encroached, invaded, murdered, raped, tortured and pillaged in your own peaceful country. You have to be an angel to not having to endure this? How does that make any sense. "Let them kill themselves", wtf man. It's 2022 and you're on a pretty much international forum, so distancing yourself from real life like a privileged little asshole will not get you very far. Some of us got Ukrainian (and Russian) family members and close friends, and/or are actual human beings with morals and sense of right and wrong, so why don't you sincerely go fuck yourself.
It's been going on for 8 years! Let them kill them selves. Ukraine is no angel, they are just as much to blame as Russia for starting this conflict. Its very similar to how it kicked off in Ireland(Crimea) with the troubles vs Great Britain but here it escalated to war.
Your mistake was in pretending you were one of “us” while viewing and recommending Russian garbage like Telegram. I think you’ll find the lines drawn quite differently.

People would prefer to avoid war where possible but some consequences are not acceptable even if it means greater risks of conflict.

Just because you’d let Putin have his way so long as he lets you live doesn’t mean everyone shares that mindset.
Take your meds shill. Telegram has all https://t.me/legionoffreedom
 

winjer

Member
the entire war was sold to russian as "not a war but a military op"

noobody ever says openly to be pro war, because war=bad

but peace keeping? military operation? pre emptive measures? sure

also, what would have been a diplomatic solution to the iraq invasion?please saddam step down from power because we ask you to, pretty please?
if this was an option for ukraine, just asking zelinski to hand over the rebel territories and step down in favor of a pro-russia leader and no blood shed, i'm sure you would get an overwhelming majority in favor in russia as well.

How daft do Russians have to be to believe that the biggest military attack in European soil since WW2, is not a full scale war?
 
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