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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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Sakura
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I'm not really sure what you mean. Russia has a limited amount of manpower in Ukraine. They need to take pauses after engaging in offensive operations.
Just google Russian operational pause and you will find a million articles stating they started one on the 8th or so. This isn't my insight, just what all the analysists say.
The analysts also said at the start of the war it would be over in 3 days. According to some I just wasn't reading the right ones apparently. What's really bizarre to some is that I was forming my own opinion.
You specifically called it a pause "after a big advancement" implies it was intentional and not forced. What big advancement are you talking about? There hasn't been one since the start of the war. Since then it's been Ukraine continually pushing them back with Russia sustaining massive losses in forces and positions from their initial push.
They're looking to Iran for arms supplies and suing their own systems makers.
A pause in forward movement doesn't mean letting up on the enemy. Even if it was an intentional pause, there would be a need to keep artillery on Ukraine during the pause to keep them unbalanced. It's not a ceasefire.
Sakura
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They recently took Luhansk which is what I mean by big advancement.
They also took pauses for example after the Popasna breakthrough, but these were generally localised.
I'm not sure what you mean by intentional vs forced. It is intentional in the sense that they know they need to take a pause, and announced they would be taking one. It is also forced because the manpower issues are creating the need in the first place.
Yes they are going to need to keep artillery shelling (which they are) but it will be more limited compared to offensive pushes.
Furthermore, on Ukraine's side, an operational pause is a situation to take advantage of, which is part of the reason we see bigger pushes from Ukraine currently. Strike while your enemy is weak and all that.
That this pause wasn't planned for by Russia is what I meant by intentional. It was forced upon them by circumstance.
This wasn't according to their design after a big advancement.
Russia announced they were taking a pause and you find that believable and the reasons they give for it? You think Russia controls the pace of the war? You think they'll be allowed to pause?
Russia got shit kicked on their advance and went as far as they can go. This possibly isn't a pause, it's the tipping point in the war where Ukraine pushing them out.
Sakura
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The Russian reason given for the pause is that their troops just need some rest, and time to get letters from home and stuff. I obviously don't believe that, and that is not the reason I said they were taking the pause for.
I'm not really sure why you are being so aggressive here. Nothing I said is controversial, and I never said the things you are asking.
You said it was after a big advancement. I was curious what you meant and how you got to that.
Today's missile strike would suggest there isn't any sort of pause/reduction in artillery strikes that was planned. More likely it's the depots being hit was original point of discussion.
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After seeing those horrific videos, I think all gloves should come off and Ukraine should be given all the weapons they need.
Give them capability to strike the docks At Sevastopol. That’s where the subs hide to fire their missiles at civilian targets. More anti-ship and anti-sub equipment needed.
This constant fear of escalation is silly. Putin doesn’t want full mobilization. He knows his support will waver if Muscovites start getting shoved into the war. There’s only so much they can press-gang from the outer provinces
Give them capability to strike the docks At Sevastopol. That’s where the subs hide to fire their missiles at civilian targets. More anti-ship and anti-sub equipment needed.
This constant fear of escalation is silly. Putin doesn’t want full mobilization. He knows his support will waver if Muscovites start getting shoved into the war. There’s only so much they can press-gang from the outer provinces
MidGenRefresh
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Yes. it's so funny hahahaha hahahaha hahahahaha hah ahahaComments section is pure comedy gold. Oh the irony.
Only 4 years old.
And the irony is so clear...so clear...
Ok, maybe not,
.... whatever thing you are referring to can't even be inferred from the information provided.
What has this to do with Ukraine and what's the irony... other than making it obvious that the statement was political after saying it was made not to make this political?
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MidGenRefresh
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What a reaction.
Forgot your pills today, mister? Relax. I'm sorry that you don't get it.
Tams
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If you can't see how this is connected to Ukraine, then you are too dumb to be participating in this thread.
You put on your best outfit.What a reaction.
The original comment about the energy is relevant.
The twitter comment being pointed out in the post is what was being asked about. Perhaps you can explain how that deals with Ukraine then.
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You put your best outfit on. Looks good on you.What a reaction.
You try to attack because you don't want explain. You can't. But you'll keep dodging.
Nobody_Important
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
No but it makes you look like an impulsive keyboard warrior when you hammer back to back to back responses without bothering to utilize the forum tools made available to you.
Which makes it hard to take you seriously.
Strange that this comes to your attention and is worth noting for you after this single event with multiple responses from different posters coming quickly.
Perhaps you perceive more of a trend due to some personal bias that you want to read into it.
Regardless, thank you ever so kindly for sharing your genuine concern about how my posts are read by you.
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funkygunther
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Thanks for proving my point.
Whatever that was. Don't care. Move on.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Careful not to cut yourself on The Edge @Everyone lol
When was the last page you commented in this thread about the actual topic?
Lukaku's First Touch
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Didn't you just laugh yourself at that video in post https://www.neogaf.com/threads/russia-begins-invasion-of-ukraine.1630982/post-266379392 ?
The original post there was relevant, relates to energy and makes easy sense. It's the US position put forward by their intelligence and such for use by whoever is in office.
What I was asking about was regarding a later post highlighting a comment in a tweet related to it.
There isn't a clear connection with Ukraine and I was genuinely curious and annoyed. Those aren't exclusive to each other. Still haven't gotten an answer, btw.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I probably have more posts in this thread in any given month at the beginning of this mess than since you started posting in here that is for sure. i have at least a hundred posts in this thread. The fact I called you out for your behavior doesn't mean I don't care about the topic. Quite the opposite.
Though I will give you credit for the attempted dodge. A for effort.
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Take a look at page 1.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I'm not saying who posted first. Read again.
EDIT: We both have 8 pages worth of posts when you search the thread. Stop deflecting.
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Whatever. Don't care. Move on.
Stop making a drama in this thread and get back to topic.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Definitely here for serious discussion. Oh and btw that is how you multi-quote.
But you are right. Let's get back on track.
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You didn't offer any serious discussion.
Thank you for admitting you derailed the thread.
Back to topic.
M1chl
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But yeah there is very little consistency in their messaging, because they don't care about that, their lies lands better when people are confused.
winjer
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Trump using this as a campaign slogan, might push other Republicans to up the ante. And even force Democrats to escalate the issue.
If US politics gets focused on the idea of destroying Russia, this could escalate to dangerous levels.
Russia might be a joke as a conventional military force, but they do have a lot of nukes.
I hope we don't get to the point of another Cuban missile stalemate, with both sides ready to press the "red button".
If US politics gets focused on the idea of destroying Russia, this could escalate to dangerous levels.
Russia might be a joke as a conventional military force, but they do have a lot of nukes.
I hope we don't get to the point of another Cuban missile stalemate, with both sides ready to press the "red button".
The way to sort this out for Ukraine is that they don't want to destroy Russia. They want them out and held accountable at the Hague. The latter for whatever that means, but that's for later. Get them out first.
There's no plans to destroy from Ukraine or other Nato nations.
NoLootBoxDev
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NoLootBoxDev
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NoLootBoxDev
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There was a point to feel bad for some Ruzzian military, now they all can get fucked up.
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NoLootBoxDev
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Fuck Putler!!!
Yup like the cunts they are.. they can go fuck them selves, those Russians
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This just goes to show stupid it is when people complain about how long timelines are and how expensive things can be to develop in the west while the Chinese or Russians slap some shit together and say “da, is good!” …until it’s fucking game time and your building which took two days to build with no inspections collapses or your weapon system proves to be totally ineffective
NoLootBoxDev
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Chittagong
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To be fair, the Russian Buk-M1 missile system has been proven in combat to be extremely effective in downing mid-to-large bodied civilian aircraft
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