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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!

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LeMaximilian

Alligator F*ck House
h3ro said:
If I hit Jab just a fraction ahead of hitting Medium to combo the two Mediums, that would be considered plinking, right?

If it is, then I used it for Ryu's cr.M cr.M cr.RH trial. :D
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Nah, if you just do a close jab to mp, you can still get the close MP animation and not far MP. Doing MP FADC MP is a pretty damn close link, it's annoying...but the close lp comes out much faster making it easier.

the_log_ride said:
Max: how you liking Ken these days? Messed around with him yesterday, and for the life of me, I can't freaking combo into sweep
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Ken's good, sticking with U1 tho. And forget that combo into sweep even exists...because it really doesn't. I've come to the conclusion that it's a hitbox bug on some characters...even with plinking, it'll happen 1/10th the time on some characters only. Best just to let it go :/
 
hitsugi

hitsugi

Member
just had my first focus crumple -> U2 whiff experience with Akuma online :D now we know that Balrog can't be hit by Akuma U2

LeMaximilian said:
And forget that combo into sweep even exists...because it really doesn't. I've come to the conclusion that it's a hitbox bug on some characters...even with plinking, it'll happen 1/10th the time on some characters only. Best just to let it go :/
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that's the same thing with Juri's s.jab into sweep.. 1/10 times. I wonder why this happens?
 
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kuYuri

Member
LeMaximilian said:
It's MP FADC MP FADC, you don't actually hit them with the Focus Attack, just dash cancel the close medium punch.

Wanna make it way easier on yourself? Do a jab before each of the MPs...
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I'll try this later, cause the Hadoken method wasn't doing much for me. I'm probably just doing it wrong though. As I said, I'm horrible at link combos.
 
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Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
abstract alien said:
I'd proclaim my love for you, but markman might FADC -> Baroque -> Raging Demon me...so I will just say good job and leave it at that.

*hangs head*
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He's a Tekken player. All he can do is raaaaaaaageeeeeeeeee. Then button mash. :lol

Sowwie Marky, I didn't mean it! -=runs=-
 
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LeMaximilian

Alligator F*ck House
hitsugi said:
that's the same thing with Juri's s.jab into sweep.. 1/10 times. I wonder why this happens?
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It's just a new thing in SSF4 I think. It definitely wasn't present in SF4. It honestly feels like Street Fighter 89 shit, where special moves randomly work sometimes.
 
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Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
Rice-Eater said:
Mind explaining that a bit?

I think Ryu is still very good. In fact I expect him to remain in the top 5 even with new strong characters. Sure he got nerfed, but so did all the other top characters so he's fine. His footsies is still great, his MP SRK takes over as his anti air, and his damage is still very good(if you can pull off 1 frame links).

My only complaint honestly is taking away a little bit of damage away from his Metsu Hadoken. Honestly it's not that big of a deal but it's like "come on, you already reduced SRK damage, why go after the Ultra to :(".
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I guess because so many characters got so much better he doesn't seem as godlike as before. Yeah, no tradeoff supers and stuff, damage being toned down quite a bit and I really don't like his dp being multiple hitting. Metsu Shoryuken sucks, besides Focus crumple and jumping in whatever, I can't find an advance combo to link full metsu srk to. One thing I really like is how easy it is I seem to do c.mp, c.mk, fireball and c.mp, c.mp, c.rh now.
 
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kuYuri

Member
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, it's a bad sign when the first SSFIV online match you have is aganist a flowchart Ken and you lose. :lol

But then I proceed to win the next 7 matches in a row until I faced a Juri. Then I lost. :(

Getting 10 wins in a row again is probably something I can't do anymore.
 
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the_log_ride

Member
LeMaximilian said:
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Ken's good, sticking with U1 tho. And forget that combo into sweep even exists...because it really doesn't. I've come to the conclusion that it's a hitbox bug on some characters...even with plinking, it'll happen 1/10th the time on some characters only. Best just to let it go :/
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Aw, that's a bummer. I could swear his step kick seems a touch slower on recovery, too, but I might be imagining things, and Linking into SRK after hit confirming seems easier.
 
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Won

Member
Have to say I'm really surprised how smooth online is so far, considering most of the connections were between Europe and USA for me tonight.
I guess I was just lucky and it will all go downhill coming next weekend.
 
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MIMIC

Banned
So many Ibukis online. Haven't lost to a single one, though. :D

And T.Hawk.....man :lol He fudged up my 10 ranked wins achievement (got it a little later though). So am I supposed to treat him like Zangief?

And once again, Fuerte's U2 is a real game changer. I was getting my ass kicked....landed the ultra and the round was mine. It's almost unfair :lol
 
Giolon

Giolon

Member
piccolosan said:
So tempted to buy this game but I need a joystick for the 360. Anyone know of a good and reasonably priced joystick for the 360?
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Madcatz SE stick. If you decide you want to go better, you can easily mod it (plug and play parts, all you need is a screwdriver) with a Sanwa stick and buttons and it's basically as good as the TE stick. It's what I did.
 
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black_vegeta

Member
the_log_ride said:
Shots fired...
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ratta tat tat...:D

Edit: From playing him constantly, I know what's coming. He tends to switch it up every now and then to throw me off. After getting worked by his Vega and Sim, I can go into the matches confidentially. He knows what's up...
 
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Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Good games to those I played in the GAF chat. Got my ass handed to me nicely. Frustrating to start a target combo to get stuffed by a jab or just be out of range or something. Or my execution be way off...or just die miserably. Oh well! I won't quit on you Dudley!
 
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n3ss

aka acr0nym
black_vegeta said:
My Rog can get him now. Once you get used to his shenanigans, you can win.

His Vega is good, but c' mon, it's Vega!
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Yeah, took me awhile since I never played a good Vega, or used Cody.


And HYPE! :lol
 
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qcf x2

Member
Ryu doesn't need a combo to connect the full Metsu Shoryuken into. ffs, that would be overkill, even worse than in vanilla SF4. He's already around upper mid tier with (still) the easiest/cheesiest ultra setup in the game.

Besides, there's a ton of combos for mss, so what if it doesn't do 700 damage, they all do at least 400 (the ones I tried). If I played Ryu, which I don't, I would stick to mss for the guaranteed damage off a whiff. Everybody whiffs.
 
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Holy Order Sol

Member
Threi said:
his best poke got better, Didn't get a chance to try PC shenanigans, his U2 is a gimmick and anti fireball, kinda overrated but helps in some of his matchups.
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Psycho Punisher is actually awesome when you get the hang of using it not only as a way to shut down fireballs but as an anti-air as well. You can even catch empty jumps with it. The hard part is, you need to react really quickly, and you don't want to get nailed by an aerial, but with that huge hitbox you can definitely steer so you stay out of their range and still pull it off.

Alternatively, you can just pull a SSF2T and use it to gtfo. :lol
 
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BigBadShamoo

Banned
Lol my dudebro friend talks so much smack when he beats me by playing only with Ryu. I don't argue back but I've told him I refuse to play SSF4 using a controller since I got my new fightsticks.

He refuses to play me on my other TE fightstick, (I don't force him) but it just so ridiculous how much shit he will talk when gloating.:lol He just doesn't realize that when starting to play with a fightstick and playing with a controller it's almost like you're playing fighting games for the first time.

I can't wait till I start owning him with it. Revenge will be sweet.
 
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sixteen-bit

Member
QisTopTier said:
Oddly enough the only character I'm enjoying right
now is Adon. Yet everyone says he sucks, wonder if it will end up like
Seth everyone said he sucked at first too :lol
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I NEED HELP

Q, what are good pokes and antiairs with Adon. I like close standing HP as a situational AA, but what else is good?

This is my scrub ass sucking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMxakh8OdWM

I like Adon alot, but as you can see, I lose to a lot of basic players.
 
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drohne

hyperbolically metafictive
man, i dunno whether to explore new characters or really work on my guile, and i don't have enough time to do both. cody's an awesome design and he's super fun, but i do better with defensive characters -- had the same problem with abel in vanilla, where i loved playing him but sucked at it.

liking super guile so far -- fk fadc u2 is way harder than it should be, but u2 is safe enough that you can experiment with it and look for setups without getting raped. really want to test u2 and the new charge time against a sagat, but i literally haven't seen a single one lolz tierwhores <3
 
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QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
_dementia said:
I NEED HELP

Q, what are good pokes and anti-airs with Adon. I like close standing HP as a situational AA, but what else is good?

This is my scrub ass sucking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMxakh8OdWM

I like Adon al ot, but as you can see, I lose to a lot of basic players.
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Adon has anti-air?

Far roundhouse, close roundhouse, standing close fierce, fierce jaguar kick and perfect timed rising jags, Oh yeah standing jab isnt that bad either :lol

Honestly try not to get in a position where they are the ones being aggressive, if you can help it use a lk jag tooth to get the fuck away (when its safe vs that character)

But don't ask me for to many tips my adon sucks plus I suck at giving advice.
 
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Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
qcf x2 said:
Ryu doesn't need a combo to connect the full Metsu Shoryuken into. ffs, that would be overkill, even worse than in vanilla SF4. He's already around upper mid tier with (still) the easiest/cheesiest ultra setup in the game.

Besides, there's a ton of combos for mss, so what if it doesn't do 700 damage, they all do at least 400 (the ones I tried). If I played Ryu, which I don't, I would stick to mss for the guaranteed damage off a whiff. Everybody whiffs.
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For my combo videos, yes he does. A Ryu without eyepopping Sheng Long combos is a hrmph.
 
Sp3eD

Sp3eD

0G M3mbeR
Completely new to SF4 anything, and I have been going through Vega's Trails.

On trial # 10

Stand H Punch
Crouch M Punch

This seems so easy, but I just can't get the timing. Do I hold crouch after H punch? Do I crouch + M punch? Also is there a animation that tells me when I can link the M punch? Only way I've got this trail is just mashing Down and M punch...

Also Trail # 18 of his it has me do 4 Light punches in a row (crouched). Is the timing engine really this strict or do I have to do something funky like hit Down + punch on each one?

As a new player to SF4 this is aggrevating seeing such simple commands but failing them :lol
 
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xSL4INx

Member
Fuck flowchart kens that continue to appear in online, you are all annoying as shit.

Also, I still hate to this day Blanka players that sit back and do nothing but mash the punch button to the electric shock, and then proceed to keep distance and continue to spam the ball attack.

Other than that, I've been playing nothing but Ibuki's it seems like online.
 
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Cowie

Member
For some reason, I always accept and feel obligated to stick around when I'm invited to play

but god team battle is so fucking boring with randoms. I really don't want to watch you asshats jump around for 70 seconds and then finally nudge eachother to death just to wait for my turn to play, and after I lose to someone I'm sure I could have beaten, I don't want to stick around for another 5 minutes to wait for my turn to come back.
 
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piccolosan

Member
Madcatz SE stick. If you decide you want to go better, you can easily mod it (plug and play parts, all you need is a screwdriver) with a Sanwa stick and buttons and it's basically as good as the TE stick. It's what I did.
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Oh! That is a awesome Giolon! Now to see if Gamestop has it in stock in my area. Thanks! :)
 
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jdub03

Member
Kadey said:
What did they do to my Ryu. :(

Akuma is more badass than ever. I may have to make him my Ultimate main now.

Still haven't done anything. I spent like less than an hour on the game so far and beat Arcade with both of those guys.

What I noticed is that certain links seems easier than vanilla.
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Good to hear. I mained akuma in vanilla. I've been playing guy exclusively online though. I like him because he has an imitation demon flip. I'll have to go back to akuma and see how he plays.
 
hitsugi

hitsugi

Member
played my first lag switching ken scrub earlier D: i still beat him just by throwing after he missed DPs but the lag was so bad that on occasion i'd just mash and i'd be doing moves for 5-10 seconds. after beating him I sent him a message saying stop lag switching, etc. and he sent me one saying "it would be funny to me if you slit your own throat"

D: what the fuck.

his PSN is s0vi3tmik3 so yeah.... watch out for that guy.
 
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MIMIC

Banned
Is it possible to alter the language of each character voice individually like in Vanilla? Can't seem to figure it out.
 
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