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[The Lunch Legend]

this thread is SO toxic..

 

[Mister Wolf]

This thread needs some shemuscle

Nothing feminine about injecting male sex hormones.

 

[Monkeygourmet]

If you’ve ever jerked off to a cartoon, a video game or video game character your opinion on these type of things is null and void because you are a deviant.

 

[Graciaus]

Probably not for awhile. But if games keep coming out on pc fans can mod the ugly out.

 

[ExpandKong]

If you’ve ever jerked off to a cartoon, a video game or video game character your opinion on these type of things is null and void because you are a deviant.

LET ME LIVE BITCH

 

[petran79]

Hire nude female models to pose for the development studios. Screw 3d assets

 

[Rheon]

I would include East Asia together.

South Korean or Taiwanese developers can also design female characters that don't look like men.

Dunno if it's been said already but THIS is what Jesse from Control should've looked like (facially, of course).

 

[aclar00]

Sorry, but the ugly white cave troll with dreadlocks from Horizon and the teenage boys from TLOU 2 are not attractive women, Mr. Neo Member. I think you should head on back to resetera where you came from.


A Japanese game of course.

You realize the two games you just mentioned are both post apocalyptic games right....generally these types of scenerios are environments arent really ideal for makeup and hair extensions.

 

[SidViscous]

When the guys who review videogames go back to resembling males.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Dunno if it's been said already but THIS is what Jesse from Control should've looked like (facially, of course).

Nope. Too young and good looking. Need to dumb it down so ugly people can relate more.

 

[JimboJones]

No game has done female character models better than Detroit in my opinion. Probably because they are extremely accurate to the real life actresses and they were incredibly well modeled and animated.

Not enough skin showing mate.

There we go, she's ready to go into combat now!

 

[Tomeru]

I thought that ND thread was bad, but some of the comments here are really from bubble worlds...

This proves that there are parallel worlds, as we have travelers right here in this very thread. This needs to be known.

 

[aclar00]

When the SJWs die out.



It's always funny when people think you need to defend ugly female polygons on the internet. Why do you hate attractive women? Do they make you sad because you realize you'll be alone forever because you're ugly inside and out?

Little ironic cosidering youre attempting to defend 'attractive' female video game characters....gotta watch out for you when the female androids of the future become reality...that may get weird

 

[Virex]

When you go design one that you can jerk off to with pride, apparently.

Go back where you came from. ResetERA is this way ==> and if you got lost coming from there to come virtue signal here and can't find your way back. Just go down the hallway and when you see the toilet you know you've reached the right place

 

[Tomeru]

The only thing having "realistic-looking" characters does is make them forgettable.

Yes, who remembers faces. I remember people by their outfits.

 

[The Scrivener]

When digital kitchens are in every game, only then will female characters carry on their role as subservient housewives like in real life.

I jest.

Real answer perhaps is when the progressive far left grow a brain.

Failing that. Blame the players.

 

[aclar00]

Came in the thread for pictures, got the one from TLOU. Feel like outrage culture is in full effect.

Yeah i find it ironic and societal tables seem to turn....people name call and call others snowflakes and then turnaround and become 'snowflakes' themselves. Yap yap yap, complain complain complain, arbitrarily.

 

[Malakhov]

This thread clearly shows some pussies from resetera are more and more present with the way they're handling bans at that cesspool.

 

[Honey Bunny]

When we decentralize American video game development from San Francisco

 

[Honey Bunny]

There should be a middle ground between Japanese and Western stuff. Can't play Tekken or SF in front of my wife

Yes you can dude. Try it.

 

[JimboJones]

Naughty Dogs newest female protagonist

 

[PocoJoe]

Have i missed something? Women are well represented across all genres. Horizon, strong female lead. FF7 remake (Tifa, Aerith) both ends of the spectrum. Last of us (LGBT). Why is this a thread?

Aloy is ugly as hell, she looks like dog. Maybe she is sister of Jason from Dark angel.

Her body is weird too, big ass like ants have.


Maybe she is an alien.


The lesbians of us 2 can stay on the store, not gonna pay for sick mans agenda simulator

Lara on shadow of tomb raider have perfect female body and face aint that bad, were hotter in the first reboot(pc version, not console)

 

[Stilton Disco]

You realize the two games you just mentioned are both post apocalyptic games right....generally these types of scenerios are environments arent really ideal for makeup and hair extensions.

They also don't have the free time, abundance of protein rich food and access to steroids required to end up with the gym rat bodybuilder physiques they've been given either.

You can also see from the actresses they (and an increasing number of western developed games female characters) have had their jawlines, hips, waists, shoulders and breasts altered to be more androgynous, if not flat out masculine, compared to their real life counterparts.

I don't need my female characters to be something to wank over, but as someone who has always loved great female leads I find the recent trend amongst creatives to act as if feminine traits, physiques and beauty is something to be ashamed of and treated as hateful, baffling.

 

[HAL-01]

Jesus good thing neogaf Isn’t in charge of modern character design

such a shame video games trying to advance the medium and tell real stories can’t also double as jerkoff material, a real loss

 

[Stilton Disco]

Jesus good thing neogaf Isn’t in charge of modern character design

such a shame video games trying to advance the medium and tell real stories can’t also double as jerkoff material, a real loss

This is a false narrative and you know it.

Sure, there's a laddishness amongst some that want titillation from their female designs, but that's to be expected in a medium that has an overwhelming male, younger skewing audience.

The idea however that female leads shouldn't be sexually attractive, that strong feminine traits and good looks are somehow a measure of immaturity and not 'real' or a barrier to good story telling as you claim, is preposterous.

Humans are biologically hardwired to associate good looks with success and confidence. Hell, good looking people generally are more successful and confident on average in real life full stop.

Good looks and feminine features that men find sexy are not a bad thing, and anyone who finds that fact makes them uncomfortable needs to grow the hell up.

 

[rofif]

Personally, I'll always refer back to this thought; I think the creator should create exactly what he or she wants.

End of story.

You don't like it, don't buy it.

In big studio - creator cannot express himself.

 

[The Cockatrice]

besides TLOU2 which we havent seen it entirely what other big developer has made bad female designs? I wanna see some proof/pictures to these fucking claims. If by good design you mean anime shit, you can gtfo.

 

[The_Mike]

Little ironic cosidering youre attempting to defend 'attractive' female video game characters....gotta watch out for you when the female androids of the future become reality...that may get weird

 

[The Hamburglar]

When the SJWs die out.



It's always funny when people think you need to defend ugly female polygons on the internet. Why do you hate attractive women? Do they make you sad because you realize you'll be alone forever because you're ugly inside and out?

haah what the hell is this take?Firstly I hate sjw shit and I’ve made that quite clear in many posts.
I’m not defending anything I was more pointing to the fact do we need another thread whining about the same thing again..
And if you want to call a character ugly that’s fine I’m certainly don’t care or get triggered that a character looks like a walking tank.
I’m 32 I really don’t give Give a shit what most characters look like, if they’re ugly fine, if they’re attractive fine. But is the sky falling if every character doesn’t look like 2b?

theres a huge difference between calling and discussing how ugly characters are and then constantly crying how far left loonies have infected games, With hundreds of ugly ass females And now we will never have ‘normal’ looking girls again.

i hope posters like yourself aren’t the norm here who react like how I must be a ugly cave troll who’s all alone because I rolled my eyes at the kid crying about how all attractive females have now disappeared from the screen, your mistaking me for the OP there bud.

edit you mention resetera an awful lot on that first page, were you banned from that cesspit and haven’t managed to let go?

 

[HAL-01]

This is a false narrative and you know it.

Sure, there's a laddishness amongst some that want titillation from their female designs, but that's to be expected in a medium that has an overwhelming male, younger skewing audience.

The idea however that female leads shouldn't be sexually attractive, that strong feminine traits and good looks are somehow a measure of immaturity and not 'real' or a barrier to good story telling as you claim, is preposterous.

Humans are biologically hardwired to associate good looks with success and confidence. Hell, generally good looking people are generally more successful and confident on average in real life full stop.

Good looks and feminine features that men find sexy are not a bad thing, and anyone who finds that fact makes them uncomfortable needs to grow the hell up.

I’d be one to know people like sexy characters, I’m a pinup artist. and here’s no need to have every character designed that way. There’s plenty of games where it makes sense within the theme to just have attractive characters looking cool, with great storytelling i. e Nier Automata, and there’s plenty where it doesn’t. “violent drama grounded in reality” is one of those where it doesn’t.

 

[Radical_3d]

This forum needs more adults. People who is not worried about young hotties but how to survive until tomorrow being so tired.

 

[GhostOfTsu]

besides TLOU2 which we havent seen it entirely what other big developer has made bad female designs? I wanna see some proof/pictures to these fucking claims. If by good design you mean anime shit, you can gtfo.

Control and Mass Effect Andromeda. They were both based on real models. Both pretty girls in real life and in-game they looked ugly and manly. Andromeda had a massive SJW infection and became a laughingstock because of it.

 

[Dacon]

Dunno if it's been said already but THIS is what Jesse from Control should've looked like (facially, of course).

Nah, Jesse just needed to actually look more like the lady they modeled her after.

No idea why she looks so damn strange ingame, Courtney Hope is a beautiful woman.

 

[FireFly]

Humans are biologically hardwired to associate good looks with success and confidence. Hell, good looking people generally are more successful and confident on average in real life full stop.

And not every story is about perfectly successful and confident people. For example in Control Jesse isn't confident at all, rejects the role of being a leader, and is left a shadow of her former self by her brothers' disappearance.

And in general there is something off about her character that extends to *all* of the characters in the game.

 

[The Lunch Legend]

This forum needs more adults. People who is not worried about young hotties but how to survive until tomorrow being so tired.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Control and Mass Effect Andromeda. They were both based on real models. Both pretty girls in real life and in-game they looked ugly and manly. Andromeda had a massive SJW infection and became a laughingstock because of it.

Andromeda had bad animations and had nothing to do with what you're claiming or the thread. They all look like females and if you think otherwise then I feel sorry for you. You havent posted proof so I'll do so for you.

Spoiler

As for Control, I have not played it yet but besides the chin that some people complained about she looks quite feminine and if you consider all these characters non female looking then guess I'm gay. Also fyi, not all women need to look like hot babes and yes sometimes the characters dont look like the models but to go as far as saying they don't look like women is absolutely ridiculous. Not all women are hot swim suit models.

 

[Shai-Tan]

Nah, Jesse just needed to actually look more like the lady they modeled her after.

No idea why she looks so damn strange ingame, Courtney Hope is a beautiful woman.

It’s funny what people think proves their narrative, like they made her ugly on purpose. Face capture clearly just does not work out as well as intended sometimes. But the type of simple minded people who make threads like this will just move on to some other piece of “evidence”. I've seen people claim Lara in Shadow of the Tomb Raider had her face look janky on purpose.

 

[Saruhashi]

We got a forecast for when this is going to blow over?

Playing through mid-2000 era games just reminds me how much female characters design has devolved.

Never. Simply because there is a section of very vocal people online who will moan and moan endlessly when a game makes certain character design choices.

Once a particular game becomes popular then it's time for the "hot takes" and gods help the developer who has included something that displeases the supposed "deep thinkers" on either side of the political divide.

Same with difficulty modes and the like.
Difficult unknown indie game? Silence.
Difficult game gets mainstream attention and critical acclaim? Reeeeee! Where are the difficulty options?

Developers should be able to do whatever they like. If the people who made Control thought that was the best direction for their game then awesome. I don't think anyone really NEEDS character designs to be one way or another.

However, it really feels like any developer is walking on eggshells right now when making decisions about female characters.

I don't know about the "resembling females" comment but for sure I reckon any western game that is perceived as "appealing the the presumed straight white male player" is going to face a lot of criticism for their choices.

On the other hand though, it seems developers are damned if they do and damned if they don't as people will cry "SJW propaganda" when other decisions are made.

People would be better off doing their research, maybe even hold off on those pre-orders or release day purchases, and then buy the games they want and skip the ones they don't.

The industry seems healthy right now with the major recent flops like Fallout 76 and Anthem not failing because of politics.
Only Battlefield 5 seems to be the main one where the marketing and the decisions made during development were blatantly political and the game failed pretty much as a result of that.

 

[Fuz]

When you stop buying them.

Just play Japanese games.

Yeah, because they look like reeeeeeeal females.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

As long as theres things like Victoria Secret angels in real life, i know the majority of the world is still sane. This uglyfying is a trend that will pass like any other trend in gaming.

Those Victoria Secret models are way more confident walking half naked then any other random chick walking down the street. You dont need to be ugly and masculine and roided up to spell "confidence".

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

This thread clearly shows some pussies from resetera are more and more present with the way they're handling bans at that cesspool.

Yep. More and more of them appearing on a daily basis.

 

[Stilton Disco]

I’d be one to know people like sexy characters, I’m a pinup artist. and here’s no need to have every character designed that way. There’s plenty of games where it makes sense within the theme to just have attractive characters looking cool, with great storytelling i. e Nier Automata, and there’s plenty where it doesn’t. “violent drama grounded in reality” is one of those where it doesn’t.

Fair enough, however I am certainly not arguing to have women straight out of a pinup in a “violent drama grounded in reality”, but that in itself describes so very few games that it's in many ways besides the point.

Infact the number of games that could be described as a “violent drama grounded in reality” is almost non existent. Even if we're discussing TLOU, that's still a post apocalyptic sci fi horror game about fungus zombies. It might be deathly serious with that conceit, but it's still a fundamentally silly fantasy story in a style deliberately aping the Hollywood approach to 'realism'.

And that's the nub of the matter, more mature media like Hollywood movies or big budget TV shows don't cast ugly fuckers in their leads because no one wants to watch ugly people do things. Infact we're genetically conditioned to more readily accept good looking people as being more competent and capable than ugly people.

There's not been thousands of years of stories, from all cultures and societies, that described their heroes as beautiful and handsome, just because our species was entirely immature and unrealistic until it started portraying women as entirely devoid of attractive traits with more masculine physical characteristics.

What's more, it's all one way. Male leads in western game are still handsome. Some rugged and gruff like Joel, others muscle bound meatheads like kratos, many pretty boys like Nathan Drake, but they're all still fine to be good looking, masculine guys.

What bugs me is that that same respect isn't afforded to feminine traits. It's not just looks either, femininity full stop is treated like a dirty word these days, but looks is the most obvious one.

I don't need every heroine in stripper heels and trashy makeup, but there's this obsession with avoiding the dreaded 'male gaze' that has been leading to far too many western devs treating good looking women as a problem.

Hell, if developers like Naughty Dog wanted me to believe they really cared about portraying a 'realistic' strong female protagonist, they'd make one that couldn't just Rambo their way through every problem, or weren't aftaid to portray them as having romantic interest in men.

Because it's easy to claim you're a progressive, groundbreaking feminist and LGBT+ ally, that finds sexy women vulgar and immature, when you're not making the player have to control a character that will kiss a boy.

 

[Sethbacca]

This thread plants a flag firmly in right wing political ideology and then claims anything to the left of it, even a center position of "who the fuck cares" is an sjw position. Like most of us just literally don't care about fapping to video games and cartoons. The fact that you people who are posting this shit don't think this is pushing your own political agenda is hilarious if not a little sad.

It's basically "Anybody who doesn't agree with me is reeeee..." the thread ....

 

[Thirty7ven]

Yeah man all these FEMALES being rendered with mustaches and soul patches really makes you nostalgic for the days when they were all drawn on screen like pornstars.

 

[ROMhack]

Jesus Harry Tung Christ. We get a post about this every single day.

This thread plants a flag firmly in right wing political ideology and then claims anything to the left of it, even a center position of "who the fuck cares" is an sjw position. Like most of us just literally don't care about fapping to video games and cartoons. The fact that you people who are posting this shit don't think this is pushing your own political agenda is hilarious if not a little sad.

It's basically "Anybody who doesn't agree with me is reeeee..." the thread ....

My feelings too.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Control? I think she's fine. Not every damn girl in a game needs to be some sex kitten. I say this as someone who enjoys plenty of games that have those attributes. I paid for House Party gladly on pc for christs sake lol

 

[Papa]

When Ivanka becomes the first female president in 2025 and the feminists all kill themselves like the cultists they are

 

[OutrageousFacts]

Are you 15? Go watch porn if you need something to jerk off too, Jesus Christ the last of us crying never ends.

Hey, you heard that? The Clique is calling.

Wanting feminine female characters doesn't mean you want a porn replacement in your games. That's an argument authoritarian puritans love to make every time they campaign against sexual content in video games.

 

[Dacon]

It’s funny what people think proves their narrative, like they made her ugly on purpose. Face capture clearly just does not work out as well as intended sometimes. But the type of simple minded people who make threads like this will just move on to some other piece of “evidence”. I've seen people claim Lara in Shadow of the Tomb Raider had her face look janky on purpose.

I'd say about 99 percent of games that use face capture for character faces instead of outright modeling something new wind up having characters that look terrible in some uncanny valley type way.

Look what they did to the poor girl's face in RE2, the one they used to model Claire.

Wtf happened here. I feel like Quantic Dreams is the only dev that gets face capture done well without the the characters faces winding up looking strange in some way.

It's one of the reasons why I hate it when devs use face scanning for character faces, well that and I feel like it robs their character of having their own unique identity.

 

[HAL-01]

Fair enough, however I am certainly not arguing to have women straight out of a pinup in a “violent drama grounded in reality”, but that in itself describes so very few games that it's in many ways besides the point.

Infact the number of games that could be described as a “violent drama grounded in reality” is almost non existent. Even if we're discussing TLOU, that's still a post apocalyptic sci fi horror game about fungus zombies. It might be deathly serious with that conceit, but it's still a fundamentally silly fantasy story in a style deliberately aping the Hollywood approach to 'realism'.

And that's the nub of the matter, more mature media like Hollywood movies or big budget TV shows don't cast ugly fuckers in their leads because no one wants to watch ugly people do things. Infact we're genetically conditioned to more readily accept good looking people as being more competent and capable than ugly people.

There's not been thousands of years of stories, from all cultures and societies, that described their heroes as beautiful and handsome, just because our species was entirely immature and unrealistic until it started portraying women as entirely devoid of attractive traits with more masculine physical characteristics.

What's more, it's all one way. Male leads in western game are still handsome. Some rugged and gruff like Joel, others muscle bound meatheads like kratos, many pretty boys like Nathan Drake, but they're all still fine to be good looking, masculine guys.

What bugs me is that that same respect isn't afforded to feminine traits. It's not just looks either, femininity full stop is treated like a dirty word these days, but looks is the most obvious one.

I don't need every heroine in stripper heels and trashy makeup, but there's this obsession with avoiding the dreaded 'male gaze' that has been leading to far too many western devs treating good looking women as a problem.

Hell, if developers like Naughty Dog wanted me to believe they really cared about portraying a 'realistic' strong female protagonist, they'd make one that couldn't just Rambo their way through every problem, or weren't aftaid to portray them as having romantic interest in men.

Because it's easy to claim you're a progressive, groundbreaking feminist and LGBT+ ally, that finds sexy women vulgar and immature, when you're not making the player have to control a character that will kiss a boy.

The notion that characters must be attractive to be good and likeable is plain wrong. If it were so we would’ve had Dwayne Johnson and Harry Styles playing Walter White and Jesse.
Characters are designed with a specific goal in mind, and the current trend in videogames (and it is a trend, not denying that) is realism and believability. The male characters you mentioned are believably attractive, none of them are flawless, the same way the women brought up in this thread are also believably attractive. The people in this thread take that as an attack against femininity because theres a disconnect between what they want women to be vs what real women actually look like