I prefer my gaming experience to be with Japanese games, a controller and a TV
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Why the PC Should Become The Home Base for Every HardCore Gamer
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I prefer my gaming experience to be with Japanese games, a controller and a TV
MidgarBlowedUp
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My GTX460 Amp is an august 2010 model so I'd appreciate it if some of you people wouldn't call her old. It's rude and disrespectful to not only her but to other "mature" graphics cards.
iNvid02
Member
PC can do all of that...
japanese ports are growing continuously, there are plenty of emulation options available, majority of games support controllers now and you can hook up to a TV
Games like fifa aren't even worth playing on pc. The community for one is miniscule, and there's a big problem with hacking. Especially in Ultimate Team. So most players are running around with the most expensive players in the game. The tiny community also destroys the auction, with stupid prices. Especially compared to the console counterparts.
Will never buy a multi platform online game on pc again
Will never buy a multi platform online game on pc again
hemtae
Member
Japanese games would be the ecosystem thing I was talking about and a PC could do the other two things.
I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed yet.
TriAceJP
Member
Plugging a PC into a TV and using a controller is awkward
TriAceJP
Member
I don't want to say 'you're wrong' but you are making it sound like it's a big complicated process, and it's not.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Only someone who doesn't game on pc would say that.
PC has wayyyyyyyyyyy more exclusives than consoles , way way more.
And no, not indies, big games with big polish.
But pc games are almost always targeted at a specific audience, not the 'for every person age 7-77' demographic the consoles try to go for.
Fresh Face
Banned
No it isn't. I have a PC hooked up to my monitor along with my 360. The PC and 360 are also hooked up to switchers. Then a cable goes through the floor (I have a basement, so this was a piece of cake), up through the floor on the other side of the room, and into my TV.
But I'm doing it really complicated. Just get something like an Alienware X51 and hook it up to your TV, grab your favorite controller, and start up Steam Big Picture. Simple as a console, and games look better on it too. You can still customize it too. Just grab an SSD (for instant load times) or a better gfx card (like the one guy who had a thread about it).
if you play MP , then yes its a huge problem. Controllers for me are more comfortable in a comfortable couch with my TV, while i get my ass handed to me by 200 dollar gaming mouse users....nah
You have to start it up, wait for windows to boot, use a keyboard and mouse to set up your game only then can you plug in a controller and play. How is that not awkward?
Also controllers can be awkward as hell and just wont work with some games
SneakyStephan
Banned
marketed =/= made
1. so I take it that means you don't have to start up your console?
2. wait for windows to boot? are you still on windows 95? PS3/360 boots up maybe 2-3 seconds quicker.
3. when was the last time you played a PC game? 1980? pretty much any game with controller support instantly detects it and doesn't require you to use kb/m to change. I've played a few games where it reads my controller and makes that the default input device.
LQX
Member
PC gaming can be expensive as hell and not as accessible. And I'm not sure we should go out of our way to pouch the console gamers as more and more great games coming to PC is the result of the console and not the other way around. Console needs these buyers, we benefit from the games developed foremost for those buyers.
Fresh Face
Banned
I love my SSD, and I do use it for game. The games are on steam so if it dies on me I'm good. Mostly I was saying get it for boot times. Much as I dislike some of the things in Windows 8, it is lightning fast along with my SSD (and my motherboard, which is built for booting up quick).
I was just saying alienware to think of something that would be simple. A lot of people like the X51. I would never ever buy a prebuilt. It seems almost sacriligious.
angular graphics
Banned
Off topic, but that reminds me of all those times I keep reading "Another advantage of Windows 8 over 7 is that it boots faster!!".
So what if it boots, and I'll be generous here, 15 seconds faster? How many times/day do you boot up your PC? 1-3? Who the hell cares then?
Why are you acting like this isn't awkward? This is what PC gamers always do, they act like every single aspect of the PC is better than console.
Do you really want a PC plugged into your TV?
diggmcbadass
Member
If someone built a PC to be as much like a console as possible, keeping it plugged into the TV and have it start Steam Fullscreen mode upon boot would really provide something almost identical to a console experience for day to day use.
Most people don't do that though, since PCs can do so much more. Kinda makes me wonder why so many people are talking about the futuristic steam box as if the same type of system can not be set up today with minimal effort.
Fresh Face
Banned
Off topic, but that reminds me of all those times I keep reading "Another advantage of Windows 8 over 7 is that it boots faster!!".
So what if it boots, and I'll be generous here, 15 seconds faster? How many times/day do you boot up your PC? 1-3? Who the hell cares then?
If you're on a laptop (another wonderful aspect of pc gaming, though of course not what the OP is talking about ), then fast book times are a godsend. Also, with an SSD, Windows 8 is even better. I believe I read somewhere that it's made a little more with SSDs in mind than 7.
because it's not? everything you said was wrong. and no I don't want my PC hooked up to a TV but that doesn't mean it can't easily be hooked up.
Thanks for this. It's definitely daunting coming in, but I think I can handle it once I get my head wrapped around all of it.
These are the exclusives for the PC I want right now, but if I were to go all in, then I'd likely use my PC as my primary gaming machine instead of getting a next-gen console too.
Thanks, I really am starting to warm up to the idea of replacing my consoles more and more.
Honestly, as someone who owns both a PS3 and a 360, the only major games that I would have really been bummed out on not getting would have been Metal Gear Solid 4 and Forza Horizon. The more I look back, most of my favorite games of this generation (like Mass Effect, Oblivion, Dragon Age: Origins, Cod 4, TWD, Fallout 3) were all multiplatform anyway.
It's just really weird to think about transitioning from consoles to PC. I mean I know in reality it's probably not a big deal, but to me (in my mind) it kind of is this strange, new part of gaming.
Why do so many console warriors come into this thread and get personally offended? At no point in the OP did he say that you should give up your consoles. There was no us vs them mentality intended when the thread was made. You guys are doing it. Maybe read the OP instead of getting offended at perceived slights towards how you spend your discretionary income that don't even exist.
Full disclosure here: PC gamer, converted in 2011 after a life of Nintendo. I would never go back, and have no plans on buying any consoles except for MAYBE a 3DS. That doesn't mean I think you're all idiots for not having/wanting a PC. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT. And you guys have the nerve to come in and call the PC gamers defensive. There's a reason for it.
Full disclosure here: PC gamer, converted in 2011 after a life of Nintendo. I would never go back, and have no plans on buying any consoles except for MAYBE a 3DS. That doesn't mean I think you're all idiots for not having/wanting a PC. NO ONE IS SAYING THAT. And you guys have the nerve to come in and call the PC gamers defensive. There's a reason for it.
alexandros
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Isn't that... kind of the point of a debate on a forum? Present argument, read different opinions, respond?
gwynplaine
Banned
been building gaming pcs for more than a decade. ever since the RIVA TNT2 but i still like closed console systems, console only games, and system exclusives even if they're just a handful each gen. also i enjoy leaderboards in some games (trials evolution) and the number of trainers available on pc's makes that a moot point pretty much.
otherwise multiplats are great on pc
otherwise multiplats are great on pc
WAR recon zero
Banned
It was but im trying to catch a bsod.
Stupid bsod
Stupid bsod
It's not, if you get creative with running an extra long HDMI cable.
That said, I still use my console for the majority of multiplayer games. Hacking is a much bigger problem for anything not made by Blizzard, and playing PC shooters with a controller is asking to get spanked. I use a KB/M all day at work, no desire to do that when I get home. CC and controller, please.
dsmoke1986
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Only games really missing on PC are Madden, WWE, 3D fighters, Forza/GT, and some of the big 1st party games, pretty much everything else is done on PC.
dsmoke1986
Member
7 is quick as hell with an SSD too, like lightning fast...Just a matter of preference on which OS to choose.
Used to be a PC gamer but moved over to consoles in the early 2000s. I wouldn't mind a gaming PC at some but it's too pricey for me right now. Also, for the money, I think the PS4 will offer more for a little while. Maybe I'll invest in a couple of years once the graphics gap has widened enough to make it worthwhile again. Maybe not.
Could never be a PC gamer only though, there are still a few under-represented genres that I would miss too much.
Could never be a PC gamer only though, there are still a few under-represented genres that I would miss too much.
dsmoke1986
Member
It's so simple, gaming laptop HDMI out in to a TV, Steam Big Picture mode, and you are good to go, everything controllable via the Xbox 360 wireless controller for PC. It's not like it was a couple of years ago, very simple setup as long as the game supports Big Pic mode within Steam.
Anything from a 650m GPU or better is a lot more powerful than current gen consoles, and can easily push 1080p on a big screen tv with at least Medium settings. Get a gaming laptop with a 780m in it and then you are talking better than PS4 and XboxOne visuals right now.
dsmoke1986
Member
Agreed, I tried to be PC only, but missed the Nintendo exclusives, Madden and WWE games too much. Now I own and play both, and it's the best of all worlds.
Magic Mushroom
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I'm glad with my gaming PC, but there is so much I can't play on it, from Journey to Bayonetta 2. I would never go PC only.
Aw man! I totally must have missed the console versions of Starcraft II and Civ 5!
sonic moob
Banned
If I could afford it I'd love a top end PC, purely to enjoy the best versions of the same games that are on the consoles. The cost of games is fantastic as well.
I prefer the ease of use that consoles give me, but that's my intelligence and patience that is lacking.
I have no interest in indie gaming or mods, though. There is not enough time to complete all the regular games I can buy.
I prefer the ease of use that consoles give me, but that's my intelligence and patience that is lacking.
I have no interest in indie gaming or mods, though. There is not enough time to complete all the regular games I can buy.
Strategy games are definitely the biggest thing I miss not having a gaming PC these days. Fortunately there's enough excellent retro stuff I haven't got round to yet to keep me occupied. Also M+K is miles better for FPS, but as I don't really like FPS games much anyway it's no great loss. I'm plenty happy with Brutal Doom for the moment
Vigilant Walrus
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I love PC gaming so much. I can only shake my head at the disbelievers. Try it. You will see, feel and live the difference. It really is amazing. I do think consoles are great, and the new ones look even better, but there is no way that a console is not a compromised experience. It has to be. It's a highly mainstream product at a very competitive price point. Nothing wrong with that. Also, your gaming preferences is hugely important to what platforms you prefer.
2 titles out of 6, they get patches that consoles get day-one six or more months late.
A few titles that no one cares about and the ones that they do care about go on handhelds or are crap.
One title out of many that is a spin-off of a series that PC gamers probably haven't played.
One (self-admitted) bad port that was only possible because the community manager for the publisher raised a stink for it.
I don't really see that as strong support of Japan getting on board with the PC platform.
When FFvs13/15 is announced for PC along with day and date patches of fighting games and releases of that sort, you may have a point. As it is it's still a second class citizen for people that care about those sorts of titles.
Canis lupus
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This is just pointless, you are comparing brand new games vs old games bought on Steam sales.
I love Steam sales as any person, but these silly comparisons are made everytime to prove Steam is 10x as cheap. Its true, when they're on sale over time. The only valid comparison to be made is between brand new games vs brand new games. I look at the Steam store now, price in euros:
Grid 2: 45
Metro Last Light: 50
COD Ghosts: 60
Rome Total War2: 55
RE Revelations: 40
Remember Me 40
Regular prices for pc games, they've always been 10-15 cheaper than consoles, even before Steam.
The advantage of Steam is its sales, and they tend to go cheaper with each sale season. The advantage of consoles is that you have the freedom to buy used games, rent games and have sales through retail. If you're a PS+ subscriber and wanna go digital all the better because the free games and discounts it has rivals Steam. Free or 50 to 75pct discount on new games like Tomb Raider, Hitman, Sleeping Dogs, Far Cry 3, X-Com, PS All Stars etc.
AppleSmack
Banned
I used to be primarily a PC gamer as the current gen became extremely old. I only used my consoles to play exclusives and gamed primarily on my PC. However, things have changed now. With the new generation of consoles coming out the roles of the 2 machines will be reversed. Now, my PS4 will be my primary gaming machine and my PC will simply serve as a tool that I can use to play some games that don't appear on the PS4. Specifically, I will use it to satisfy my love of the Total War games and other strategy series while also playing TitanFall
As a new generation of console gaming starts, the PC really loses its value and its definitely not worth investing in one until at least a few years in a console generation as your PC will depreciate fast in quality and will soon be unable to match console performance in games. Heck, even when I start having to play my games between low-medium (mostly low) I start feeling like a cheap shit as if you are playing your games like that it simply is wrong. PC games are meant to be played on high settings to take advantage of the power.
As a new generation of console gaming starts, the PC really loses its value and its definitely not worth investing in one until at least a few years in a console generation as your PC will depreciate fast in quality and will soon be unable to match console performance in games. Heck, even when I start having to play my games between low-medium (mostly low) I start feeling like a cheap shit as if you are playing your games like that it simply is wrong. PC games are meant to be played on high settings to take advantage of the power.
You don't have to pay a fee to access Steam sales, though.
Yup. I'm ready to join the PC master race but Japan needs to embrace the platform first. Until then, I'm sticking with Sony and Nintendo's platforms.
AppleSmack
Banned
$5 a month. Big woop. I honestly don't understand how people can complain about $5 a month when I spend double that a day on food.
not now and not ever simply because its too much of a hassle and expensive, Also the fact that I'm almost exclusively a JPGamer and those are exclusive to consoles and handhelds.
The occasional multiplats are worth it on PC however: MHF, PSO2 and FFXIV. I dont care for anything else on PC
Oh and the waiting and struggle to get console multiplats years down the line? No thanks
The occasional multiplats are worth it on PC however: MHF, PSO2 and FFXIV. I dont care for anything else on PC
Oh and the waiting and struggle to get console multiplats years down the line? No thanks
Posts like that make me lose faith in the industry.
Assuming we have another long gen (and I'm sure we will), $5 a month adds up to roughly $400.
Irobot82
Member
Yeah, but if you cancel your subsricption all the "free" games are gone on PS+
Edit:
Oh, look I'm not a junior anymore, WOOT!
Canis lupus
Member
I really don't mind the fee. I can buy Tomb Raider for 20 dollars, my investment in PS+ more than pays for itself
Am I reading it wrong or is Tomb Raider only $2.25 off of regular price?