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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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- The script. Whoever came up with that pic of Terrio standing with FALSE GOD on his chest is on the nose; because the script, no matter what you heard, AIN'T THAT GOOD. It's filled with quasi-intellectual metaphors and mythology illusions, and the characters literally talk about the nature of life like they're in a mid 90's Japanese RPG at times. (GAF might see this as a positive actually; some of the lines are so bad they are funny)
The review itself is good, but how can you know if the script is good or not, just by the dialog? A bad director with a good script won't release an excellent film.
 

Screaming Meat

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Destroying most of your capital city doesn't seem like the greatest false flag operation.

It's just a new enemy to distract from continuing war with fellow humans.

Nah, it posed more questions than anything. It needn't be a false flag operation for the rest of the world to view the US 'unfavourably' after their 'pet nuke' went bulu. Building an alliance on that foundation is building an empire on a sand, and not in the clever way the comics hinted at.
 
I found the Wonder Woman music to be standout because of how screechy and bad it was. But, I doubtthag will be the popular opinion.

Wonder Woman did get claps when she first appeared but it was more because she appeared. Haha. She didn't really do anything in this movie and if you've seen the trailers, you've seen 80% of her in costume.

She does smirk once though and people will love that.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
The review itself is good, but how can you know if the script is good or not, just by the dialog? A bad director with a good script won't release an excellent film.

Because the director and actor collaborate on how the line is delivered, but that doesn't change what they're saying from being dribble.
 

ArmGunar

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Sony should buy DC.

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No thanks
 
Thread grew about 40ish pages since I last checked in. Still pumped to see it on Friday and while I didn't expect it to get amazing 90 percentile reviews, I did NOT expect it to be this bad. Having a hard time believing it's that bad.
 

Downhome

Member
I just saw this from Del Howison (owner of the Dark Delacacies store in CA) on Facebook. He may not mean anything to most of you, so if nothing more it's a quick blurb from another filmgoer. Maybe some of you know him though...

Just saw the emotionless, unfun, convoluted, unengaging Batman v Superman. If this is how the summer is shaping up it will be a lot of catching up at home on Netflicks. The film was just horrible on every level. What was the most fun was that the was a short clip at the beginning of the director talking to the audience and asking that after seeing the film we reveal no spoilers concerning the twists in the film. That will be easy since there were none.
 

PBY

Banned
I just saw this from Del Howison (owner of the Dark Delacacies store in CA) on Facebook. He may not mean anything to most of you, so if nothing more it's a quick blurb from another filmgoer. Maybe some of you know him though...

Yo damn. Some of these reviews are beyond bad, but are just straight vicious.
 
Just came back from seeing this and now I understand why the reviews are lower than Man of Steel, which is actually a more coherent movie. That might be hard to believe, but hooooooo boy is this movie a mess! But it's a lovable mess that tries REALLY hard (bless you, Based God Snyder) and personally I think every GAFer should see it, if only 'cause some segments are straight up from the Arkham games. Also, it is going to fuel message board arguments for the next decade, no doubt about it.

I will post more spoiler filled impressions in the spoiler thread, but here's some quick thoughts...

THE DOPE

- BATFLECK THE GOD. Srs, Batman had to dive bomb into this movie to save the day and Ben put in work. He does a shitload of un-Batman like things that were riffed from The Dark Knight Returns, which I feel like Synder and Terrio both obviously loved but probably didn't understand very well...BUT I WAS WILLING TO FORGIVE ALL BECAUSE HIS PERFORMANCE SAVED THIS DAMN MOVIE. Also him and Jeremy Irons spit some witty fire at each other.
- Wonder Woman rocks. I know where those early tweets saying she got standing ovations came from. Also she has the best music.
- Doomsday final boss fight is pretty good tbh

THE NOT AS DOPE

- Superman gets the shaft hard in this movie and Cavill cannot compete against the acting chomps of Batfleck the God. This movie will not help those "moping, sad Superman" arguments at all.
- The reasoning for Bats to fight Supes is pretty damn weak
- The script. Whoever came up with that pic of Terrio standing with FALSE GOD on his chest is on the nose; because the script, no matter what you heard, AIN'T THAT GOOD. It's filled with quasi-intellectual metaphors and mythology illusions, and the characters literally talk about the nature of life like they're in a mid 90's Japanese RPG at times. (GAF might see this as a positive actually; some of the lines are so bad they are funny)

THE WTF

- Really was not feeling Lex Luthor. Soon as he came on screen, I wanted to punch him and that feeling lasted till the end.
- The poorly structured nature of the movie's first hour - this is where all those rotten tomatoes are coming from because there are just too many random story moments pieced together incoherently for the film to be considered a "good" one, at least in its beginning half. Those critics sadly are not working under a Marvel conspiracy - they're just calling bullshit when they see it, and this first act got cut to hell and back. The extended Blu-ray might fix things up a bit, but ya, bullshit.

To sum things up, it's kind of a magnificent trainwreck with some epic fanservice moments which make it entertaining and worth watching at least once. It's kinda like the comic book movie version of Advent Children.

Got damn
 
All this Marvel talk just reminds me why I enjoy their movies more. I think the main reason people like Avengers and Marvel movies in general is that they are not just dark, serious movies. They know they are comic book superhero movies and they have a good balance of fun humour, serious drama and action.

Avengers is not the best Marvel movie but it's a fun as hell movie, but they also have the more serious stuff like Winter Soldier, which is one of the best comic book movies ever made and Gaurdians of the Galaxy, which again is a really fun movie with a great mix of everything.

WB and DC just seem to be in full on serious mode all the time though, a bit of humour and maybe something not quite so dark wouldn't be a bad thing. I mean they have Batman as the serious character, so why not give Superman a bit more personality, more like Captain America, it just seems like it's taking itself way to serious and forgets to add a little bit of fun to the mix.
 
Part of me wants BvS to make so much goddamn money that we're stuck with Snyder for years. Only because it's going to be fun to be able to look back on message boards and watch the exact moments that some people lose their shit and start to slip into insanity.

Plus this shit makes time fly by when you're waiting for 5:00.
 

VenomBoss

Banned
Just came back from seeing this and now I understand why the reviews are lower than Man of Steel, which is actually a more coherent movie. That might be hard to believe, but hooooooo boy is this movie a mess! But it's a lovable mess that tries REALLY hard (bless you, Based God Snyder) and personally I think every GAFer should see it, if only 'cause some segments are straight up from the Arkham games. Also, it is going to fuel message board arguments for the next decade, no doubt about it.

I will post more spoiler filled impressions in the spoiler thread, but here's some quick thoughts...

THE DOPE

- BATFLECK THE GOD. Srs, Batman had to dive bomb into this movie to save the day and Ben put in work. He does a shitload of un-Batman like things that were riffed from The Dark Knight Returns, which I feel like Synder and Terrio both obviously loved but probably didn't understand very well...BUT I WAS WILLING TO FORGIVE ALL BECAUSE HIS PERFORMANCE SAVED THIS DAMN MOVIE. Also him and Jeremy Irons spit some witty fire at each other.
- Wonder Woman rocks. I know where those early tweets saying she got standing ovations came from. Also she has the best music.
- Doomsday final boss fight is pretty good tbh

THE NOT AS DOPE

- Superman gets the shaft hard in this movie and Cavill cannot compete against the acting chomps of Batfleck the God. This movie will not help those "moping, sad Superman" arguments at all.
- The reasoning for Bats to fight Supes is pretty damn weak
- The script. Whoever came up with that pic of Terrio standing with FALSE GOD on his chest is on the nose; because the script, no matter what you heard, AIN'T THAT GOOD. It's filled with quasi-intellectual metaphors and mythology illusions, and the characters literally talk about the nature of life like they're in a mid 90's Japanese RPG at times. (GAF might see this as a positive actually; some of the lines are so bad they are funny)

THE WTF

- Really was not feeling Lex Luthor. Soon as he came on screen, I wanted to punch him and that feeling lasted till the end.
- The poorly structured nature of the movie's first hour - this is where all those rotten tomatoes are coming from because there are just too many random story moments pieced together incoherently for the film to be considered a "good" one, at least in its beginning half. Those critics sadly are not working under a Marvel conspiracy - they're just calling bullshit when they see it, and this first act got cut to hell and back. The extended Blu-ray might fix things up a bit, but ya, bullshit.

To sum things up, it's kind of a magnificent trainwreck with some epic fanservice moments which make it entertaining and worth watching at least once. It's kinda like the comic book movie version of Advent Children.

Sold!
 

NotLiquid

Member
Just saw MovieBob's review. I didn't expect him to be particularly kind to the movie after he tried constantly convincing himself for a long time that Man of Steel was better than he actually thought, but wow, he completely ripped this movie apart. Hyperbole aside, actually trying to digest what the movie's whole premise is, it sounds so abysmal. It really does sound like DC's answer to The Amazing Spider-Man 2 where the plot is there "just because" while the real focus is just franchise maintenance with "subtle" hints at another movie.
 
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