Assassin's Creed: Shadows | Review Thread

What scores do you think Assassin's Creed: Shadows will get?

  • 65-69%

    Votes: 7 2.5%
  • 70-74%

    Votes: 14 4.9%
  • 75-79%

    Votes: 38 13.3%
  • 80-84%

    Votes: 133 46.7%
  • 85-89%

    Votes: 77 27.0%
  • 90-94%

    Votes: 12 4.2%
  • 95-100%

    Votes: 4 1.4%

  • Total voters
    285
  • Poll closed .

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
Dont forgot to say that is the 2nd best CCU cause its the first DAY ONE AC game on steam, so, imo beeing second its not a great metric.

10 yeara Ago i would agree with you that AC was a console game, but today ? Nah, look at the numbers that other "console games" are making, or you gonna tell me that Monsters Hunter was super popular on PC back in the day ?

LOL Monster Hunter is built for PC.

Assassin's Creed doesn't even have co-op let a big online component...

Stop it.
 

Lokaum D+

Member
LOL Monster Hunter is built for PC.

Assassin's Creed doesn't even have co-op let a big online component...

Stop it.
MH is build for PC ? MH debuted on PC 7 years ago, it wasnt even Day One on steam, this is a series that has being around since 2004 and it build for PC ?

Go Crazy Wtf GIF
 
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Leopold

Gold Member
Game is quite good. They put a lot of love here. The cinematics are particularly good for now, and Naoe feels like an actual assassin and forces me to use stealth.
 

PeteBull

Member
You lost me at right wing extremist.
CNN from the 90s would be called right wing extremists now, just look at this vid they did on id software/wolfenstein 3d:

Proper info, 0 questions about where are women or minorities in the studio or how come protag is white muscular dude instead of female or minority of questionable identity... :p
 
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Lokaum D+

Member
It gets better, in less than two weeks he went from "it will sell better on consoles" and "half of the sales will be in Japan" to now, "it was built for PC". Japan let him down.
Jesus Crist, that really got me by surprise, u know when you are seeing a movie or something and a person says something really REALLY stupid and you think "nah, no one is that stupid in real life", god damn i was wrong
 

PeteBull

Member
Did you mean to respond to me? This has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
U claimed ac shadow reviewed well, and i pointed out it only got 80 metascore while getting tons of brownie points for including black protag in a place where it would be extremly unlikely to meet any black person, not to mention actual samurai.
Now imagine game was exactly the same but instead of forcing DEI(so not even yasuke as dlc character while offering proper japanese male samurai which japanese history had so many of them, many legendary ones too), remove those 2/10 bonus points woke prof journos(or like normal ppl call them nowadays- liers)from avg 8/10 score and we arrive at proper score game deserves, 6/10 aka above avg but nothing special, great or amazing.
 

geary

Member
Considering how fragmented their development is, it's actually kind of amazing how they bring everything together in the end.
This is also why their game feels so similar and rarely do innovative things. They framework and process is so tight, it doesn't allow to big changes.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
That explains why it runs so well

I'm not talking about from a programming standpoint.

It's a mainly online game that focuses on co-op. That's more popular on PC than console.

Assassin's Creed is a completely offline single player experience lacking in really thick RPG elements that you'll get in The Witcher. Even with a bloated story, it's only 40 hours long compared to The Witcher which is 51.5 with a lot more to do outside of that for completionism.

ACS isn't built for PC success and it's hilarious that you want to pretend like it was. Maybe if it was more of a soulslike it would have a better chance, but it isn't.
 

Lokaum D+

Member
You know that isn't what I meant...

Aren't you supposed to be on ignore?
MH has co-op since its beginning, don't come here saying that they put co-op into the game to cater to the PC community, what you said was moronic and thats it.

AC games has been on PC for much much longer tham MH, even if the games doesn't have multiplayer components ( aside from Unity ) it had way more recognition along PC players that MH ever had before World, so dont came here saying that MH is build around PC cause its not.
 
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Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
It gets better, in less than two weeks he went from "it will sell better on consoles" and "half of the sales will be in Japan" to now, "it was built for PC". Japan let him down.

I still think Monster Hunter will sell better on consoles. I'll be very interested to see actual splits globally.

You seem to think that Monster Hunter World was much bigger on PS4 than PC in North America. Even launching later, that's not the case. The big console discrepancy is in Japan.

 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
MH has co-op since its beginning, don't come here saying that they put co-op into the game to cater to the PC community, what you said was moronic and thats it.

AC games has been on PC for much much longer tham MH, even if the games doesn't have multiplayer components ( aside from Unity ) it had way more recognition along PC players that MH had before World, so dont came here saying that MH is build around PC cause its not.

LOL, when did I say they put co-op in to cater to PC... literally never said that. What I said is that works to its advantage on PC more than it does console.

When you create a strawman argument to try to win an argument, I hope you realize you're the one that sounds moronic.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
CNN from the 90s would be called ring wing extremists now, just look at this vid they did on id software/wolfenstein 3d:

Proper info, 0 questions about where are women or minorities in the studio or how come protag is white muscular dude instead of female or minority of questionable identity... :p


Romero's mullet is hilarious
 

Lokaum D+

Member
LOL, when did I say they put co-op in to cater to PC... literally never said that. What I said is that works to its advantage on PC more than it does console.

When you create a strawman argument to try to win an argument, I hope you realize you're the one that sounds moronic.
You implied that MH on PC has more success cause it has a bigger online component and co-op, a components that AC games are missing and this is wrong, MH is more successful cause its a better game, even if it was a single player only game it would make almost the same numbers and NO, it "doesn't work its advantages on PC more than it does on console" and that is clear as day.

It's a mainly online game that focuses on co-op. That's more popular on PC than console.
Lol, at this point you are just making a fool of yourself.
 
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I'm not talking about from a programming standpoint.

It's a mainly online game that focuses on co-op. That's more popular on PC than console.

Assassin's Creed is a completely offline single player experience lacking in really thick RPG elements that you'll get in The Witcher. Even with a bloated story, it's only 40 hours long compared to The Witcher which is 51.5 with a lot more to do outside of that for completionism.

ACS isn't built for PC success and it's hilarious that you want to pretend like it was. Maybe if it was more of a soulslike it would have a better chance, but it isn't.

In what world does my comment imply that I think Shadows is "built for PC success" (whatever the fuck that means)

You're living in a fantasy man.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
In what world does my comment imply that I think Shadows is "built for PC success" (whatever the fuck that means)

You're living in a fantasy man.

Seems like you wondered into a discussion, picked a side without knowing what was going on.

I said that ACS wasn't build for success on PC. It's really not the type of game that sells like REALLY huge numbers on PC, then someone said why did Monster Hunter Wilds sell so well on PC, to which I said, it was built for success on PC with it's online co-op.

Nothing that I said was a hot take and anyone with two brain cells to rub together would agree with that.

There's a clear pattern of what has big success on PC and it isn't one and done 3rd person action games with no online component and not a lot of replayability.

That's not even to say that PC isn't part of the formula for this game to make its money back. It's definitely going to have to do a a couple million on PC, but if this game is unsuccessful, I'd put a big part of that down to Xbox owners not buying games and probably oversaturation of the themes on PlayStation with Ghost of Tsushima, Rise of the Ronin, Nioh 2, and coming up Ghost of Yotei... Hell throw in Onimsuah 2. Combine that with all the hate the game was getting before it came out, it definitely has an uphill battle.

All that being said, we have no idea how this game is performing so far, but it's Steam CCU on a Thursday is not the metric I would use to gauge that. If I was Ubisoft, I'd be more concerned about not being #1 across the board on PSN behind games like EA FC that have been out for quite some time or other annual titles like MLB The Show.
 

bender

What time is it?
Have you ever watched Writing on Games? I admit he is alone, he doesn't have a big team like these other guys, and seems to generally actually write and edits his own stuff but man sometimes his thought process is amazing. Not always amazing, but actually does some FANTASTIC work with actually breaking things down. Level design, game decision making and more. The only person I really patreon anymore myself.

One of the things that does help is he edits it himself for the most part which means his points he also has to track and use himself and its noticeable how detached it can make you using editors.

I haven't. I watched a few of his reviews years ago and didn't find him insightful or offering commentary that you couldn't find from any other reviewer. To be fair, I don't watch or read a ton of reviews anymore and working against him is my distaste for long form reviews of current games. No offense to your format and I do appreciate you've adopted a modern day version of a review scale I always liked (buy, rent, avoid with rent being replaced with a sale, but most of the gaming media I consume is, oddly enough, long form analysis of older titles. I find these passion projects more interesting than mainstream coverage that has a far greater commercial slant. And that's not me saying that Skillup or anyone else has no passion.
 

GudOlRub

Member
KCD2 is a 50+ hour RPG... over 100 hours to complete. Much closer to The Witcher than ACS...
Most reviews for AC Shadows say that it takes around 40 hours just to beat the main story, what the fuck are you on about man?
This recent RPG formula for Assassin's Creed is a literal knock off from The Witcher...
But alright, you want 3rd person action? RDR2 just beat it's all time player count on Steam last month with 99k players.
That game came out for PC almost 6 years ago, the online mode is all but dead with its last update having been released 4 years ago, so please tell me again how people don't want single player 3rd person action games on PC.

Confused Thinking GIF
 

Mortisfacio

Member
Skill Up:

-"Assassin's Creed Shadow's is the worst written of the modern AC quadrilogy"
-"Assassin's Creed Shadow's is a game where you will struggle to care about anything going on and struggle to remember anyone's name"
-Lot of complaints that the first 35 are <redacted> terrible, but the last 5 hours is great (from a writing perspective).
-Lot of complaints about quantity over quality.
-On copy + paste style gameplay "I just think this model of massive, endless, repetitive space is just fundamentally bad"
-Seen a lot in other reviews, but more about after playing as Naoe, Yasuke feels terrible and out of place "Like Robocop was dropped into Mario. It just doesn't work".

Verdict more of what I figured. If you liked Odyssey and Valhalla, it's more of that. Problem is, I hated Odyssey and Valhalla. I ended up not finishing either.
 

JayK47

Member
I have watched several videos of this game and Valhalla. I really do not like what they have turned AC into. I am glad some of you do not mind the changes and are having fun. I have no interest in these newer AC games, as they barely even look like an AC game. Does your character even have the wrist blade anymore? They basically just make whatever game they want and toss AC on it. I half expect AC in space. I am surprised so many are fine with these changes. It makes AC just another generic "rpg" where you grind and chip away at damage sponge enemies. The game no longer respects your time.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
Most reviews for AC Shadows say that it takes around 40 hours just to beat the main story, what the fuck are you on about man?
This recent RPG formula for Assassin's Creed is a literal knock off from The Witcher...
But alright, you want 3rd person action? RDR2 just beat it's all time player count on Steam last month with 99k players.
That game came out for PC almost 6 years ago, the online mode is all but dead with its last update having been released 4 years ago, so please tell me again how people don't want single player 3rd person action games on PC.

Confused Thinking GIF

LOL, how you gloss over Red Dead's online mode that gave it massive longevity or the fact that it takes nearly 200 hours to complete.

AC is RPG-Lite, focusing more on stealth than RPG elements.

Where are these clowns with under 500 messages coming from?
 

pulicat

Member
I still think Monster Hunter will sell better on consoles. I'll be very interested to see actual splits globally.

You seem to think that Monster Hunter World was much bigger on PS4 than PC in North America. Even launching later, that's not the case. The big console discrepancy is in Japan.

Dude, Japan is no longer the biggest country for Monster Hunter, it's China the biggest ever country for Monster Hunter and PC is the main platform.

Launch aligned World PS4 vs PS5 after 3 weeks in Japan

MH World - 1.68m
MH Wilds - 742k

And your imaginary 80% digital split doesn't exist in Japan.
 

GudOlRub

Member
LOL, how you gloss over Red Dead's online mode that gave it massive longevity or the fact that it takes nearly 200 hours to complete.

AC is RPG-Lite, focusing more on stealth than RPG elements.

Where are these clowns with under 500 messages coming from?
I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not, I don't want to believe

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What's the point of adding a black character to the game if none of the NPCs react to his skin color? They just treat him like a normal Japanese man.

Literally the first scene he is in, pretty much every NPC reacts when they see him. Maybe you’re referring to later scenes when everyone is accustomed to him.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
just a side note.
I paid 70$ with free shipping for ps5 disc. (pre-order bonus included)
I am installing the game now (sadly seems it's not on disc at all lol) and I check the psn... the game is 90$ on psn.

So another point for digital vs physical....
I get the disc, I get it cheaper, after installing, I will be able to play offline etc etc. Infinitely more pros for the disc compared to digital.
 
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Mortisfacio

Member
What quadrilogy??


Who the hell hates killing Minotaurs and Hades???

I'm assuming he's referencing Origins > Odyssey > Valhalla > Shadows.

Mirage was a deviation from this "modern" AC style and more of a return to classic AC.

And I don't hate the concept of killing minotaurs and hades, I just find the modern AC combat incredibly boring and generic. The only challenge ever presented is more blocks and more health. It's just... boring. Then they force you to repeat it for 50+ hours and copy + paste the same content hundreds of times over, but you end up not caring about anything. Quantity over quality.
 

Karak

Member
I haven't. I watched a few of his reviews years ago and didn't find him insightful or offering commentary that you couldn't find from any other reviewer. To be fair, I don't watch or read a ton of reviews anymore and working against him is my distaste for long form reviews of current games. No offense to your format and I do appreciate you've adopted a modern day version of a review scale I always liked (buy, rent, avoid with rent being replaced with a sale, but most of the gaming media I consume is, oddly enough, long form analysis of older titles. I find these passion projects more interesting than mainstream coverage that has a far greater commercial slant. And that's not me saying that Skillup or anyone else has no passion.
Oh interesting because even developers have consistently talked about Writing on Games for a couple years now. . But each to their own. I am finicky as hell man. I will find something I like then move on and never look back. Most stuff seems out of touch quickly for me. Or worse yet vastly understudied for what many are now talking about.
 
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Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I'm not talking about from a programming standpoint.

It's a mainly online game that focuses on co-op. That's more popular on PC than console.

Assassin's Creed is a completely offline single player experience lacking in really thick RPG elements that you'll get in The Witcher. Even with a bloated story, it's only 40 hours long compared to The Witcher which is 51.5 with a lot more to do outside of that for completionism.

ACS isn't built for PC success and it's hilarious that you want to pretend like it was. Maybe if it was more of a soulslike it would have a better chance, but it isn't.
>TW3
>Thick RPG elements

Lol, the depth of their RPG mechanics are similar with AC arguably even having more because there’s stealth and archery.

I just don’t think the PC crowd is interested in AC as much as the console crowd, but your arguments are comical.
 
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bender

What time is it?
Oh interesting because even developers have consistently talked about Writing on Games for a couple years now. . But each to their own. I am finicky as hell man. I will find something I like then move on and never look back. Most stuff seems out of touch quickly for me.

Sums up the vast majority of modern gaming, but that's probably just being an "old head" talking. It's also why I don't pay much attention to current games coverage as we largely know what most games are going to be and I know where my interests lie. I've never heard of Writing on Games so I'll give it a whirl while I'm doing my gaming chores. Maybe it can break my own finicky and jaded nature.
 

Mibu no ookami

Demoted Member® Pro™
>TW3
>Thick RPG elements

Lol, the depth of their RPG mechanics are similar with AC arguably even having more because there’s stealth and archery.

I just don’t think the PC crowd is interested in AC as much as the console crowd, but your arguments are comical.

Laughable.

Assassin's Creed Shadows is chock-full of RPG systems—possibly more than any other Assassin's Creed—but their lack of depth reveals a fundamental problem that, at this point, I doubt the series will ever overcome: Assassin's Creed is an action series cosplaying an RPG.

 
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