DenchDeckard
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I cant see the post for some reason but I guess he was stalking our boy
adamsapple
?Adam has to get the most shout outs on this forum. It's pretty extreme I think.
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Avowed Tops out around 16K Concurrent Steam Players on Release Day
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I cant see the post for some reason but I guess he was stalking our boy
adamsapple
?Adam has to get the most shout outs on this forum. It's pretty extreme I think.
Thebonehead
Gold Member
I cant see the post for some reason but I guess he was stalking our boy
Adam has to get the most shout outs on this forum. It's pretty extreme I think.
Nope he had an obsession with
Fess
. Maybe the link doesn't work as I view 100 posts per page.Not harassing but he’s asked about my name in private, and now he’s made up his mind that I’m Eriksson and goes on calling me that all the time thinking that he knows me or whatever. Stalker behavior I guess, but in private message he’s friendly so I don’t know what’s the deal. On the board he always have an attitude, go check his posts, typical console warrior. I’ve talked to @EviLore about it. I’m just an old grey nerd up in cold ass Sweden so how interesting can I be lol?
I’ve been here for nearly 20 years, was off site for 3 years and glad to be back, pretty much everyone here is friendly and I have no problem with people having a preference but this guy is something else, always an attitude, apparently you can’t be positive about Gamepass unless you’re paid by MS
Thebonehead
Gold Member
I get what you mean. The opening was a damp squib to me as well.
It also doesn't help that the first character you meet on the beach has an incredibly bad voice actor.
It honestly sounds one of the developers thought how hard can it be? I can read these lines just as well. Sounded flat in their delivery to be.
Was quite off putting.
Still I went to the first town and went completely off track jumping off the pier and swimming to, then exploring the lighthouse. Finding ask the roofs you can jump on and down through to hidden areas.
Been enjoying it so far. Makes a change from the inane mini games of ff7 rebirth
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djjinx2
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Brah just go back to laughing emoji's and stop talking shite
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Felessan
Member
6 is also score that some people will opt if something will catch their interest. And 5 is a score where you play anything "eadible" in genre.
People just treat mediocre games as trash because on average it easier to switch genre and play 70+ game than force yourself playing games with flaws. There are too many games.
6-7 are games that even though has some nice bits and pieces also has obvious flaws so those games hard to recommend to general crowd. Like I liked Idea factory/Compile hearts games and they are 6-7 games.
And games at 5 or below is not unplayable, life of black tiger is playable. They are just bad. And there is actually different levels of bad - from slightly bad to horrible disasters.
And for scale to be fair and representative it should cover good and bad evenly, you can't just close eye on bad part of scale and state "only good exists" and put Criminal Girls (55 rating game, average quality definition of boredom, but still a game with quite some efforts put in it) to a life of black tiger (literally 0 rating game, a low score on everything).
One of may all time favorite game, Tale of Immortal, on which I spent hundreds of hours, has Steam rating of 53%, so it's really not that simple and straightforward
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Insanemaelstrom
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Personally I have, to some extent, stopped listening to the end scores. What the reviewer liked and disliked and the actual review before the score is the more meaty part. End scores( and aggregate sites like metacritic) just give you partial info.
simpatico
Member
GymWolf
Member
You are out of luck, half of them probably identify as he\him\he-man.
Breakfast_At_Noon
Neo Member
It will peak when it drops to a reasonable price in a sale at 52.3k
DenchDeckard
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GymWolf
Member
Many of us can enjoy flawed but still fun 7\10 titles.
Were you so hung up on scores when days gone got a 71 on mc?
Edit: i see the bicentenary man already took care of that.
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PeteBull
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Thebonehead
Gold Member
Madserb2023
Member
I am enjoying the games. Combat is great. However, I just can't get over how static everything is. From the NPCs to just general objects. They call it the Laving Lands but it's completely dead.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I cant see the post for some reason but I guess he was stalking our boy
Adam has to get the most shout outs on this forum. It's pretty extreme I think.
This one wasn't for me fortunately, lol. He was seemingly stalking another user with multiple unsolicited DMs etc from what I can gather.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I don't understand defending these huge gaming companies like a small group does
Plus it happens with Sony and Nintendo as well
There are a handful of people in all camps I simply can't take seriously with their opinions
Look at a few that has made countless posts defending Concord
Jaybe
Member
I’m surprised with this being a longer playtime game that it is losing players so soon after launch. Normally everyday a new CCU peak is hit until the first workday after release weekend. Maybe the advanced access people have already finished with it. I’m sure it will get a spike this weekend, especially Sunday but the 20k to 25k guessers are looking to be right.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
i think it's a 40ish/hrs game.
if it drops below 11K in the next 3-4day, reaching 20k would be tough
Humdinger
Gold Member
It seems silly to get hung up on review scores. What matters is the nature of the game and whether its features align with your taste. You can sometimes tell that from a review, but not from a review score. A game that gets a 7 but has strengths you love and problems you can live with is completely different than a 7 with those features and problems reversed.
I know this is obvious, but I felt like pointing it out. I always get pedantic after my first cup of coffee in the morning.
I know this is obvious, but I felt like pointing it out. I always get pedantic after my first cup of coffee in the morning.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Given the nature of conversations about scores in this and other threads, it's not obvious at all.
The only thing I pay attention to in reviews is how the pros and cons are worded. That usually hints to me better than the overall score.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Same here as I put very little stock into overall scores unless terrible scores are related to something other than gameplay if that makes sense
I have enjoyed some poorly scored games and couldn't finish some very highly scored games.
BigLee74
Member
What’s your point here exactly?
Kacho
Gold Member
Comparing two new releases.
Kotaro
Member
it's gonna be interesting to see how these two games do this weekend
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
DownLikeBCPowder
Member
Yep. I sometimes use it as an outlier to my perceived opinion - if I think somethings going to be godawful but gets high marks, I'll look further and vice versa.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
Tale of two games.
Scored almost identically on metacritic, but one gets WAY more discourse than the other but probably will sell worse in reality. More evidence that the internet isn't real.
Do you know who doesn't give a fuck about Avowed? China... It's the 33rd best selling game there right now. Like a Dragon is 8th.
So much of social media is so driven by a handful of countries, major countries, but a handful nonetheless.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Honestly don't know this question so don't take it as being a smartass but is Like a Dragon on Gamepass?
Buggy Loop
Member
Nope
Topher
Identifies as young
You should try it
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Kacho
Gold Member
Expectations aren't high for Pirate Yakuza with it being a spin-off game, especially with MH Wilds' impending release. Curious to see how it does compared to Infinite Wealth.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
Expectations aren't high for Pirate Yakuza with it being a spin-off game, especially with MH Wilds' impending release. Curious to see how it does compared to Infinite Wealth.
Which is even more to my point about how Avowed has an outsized level of discourse and if it weren't a Microsoft game pretty much no one would care about it.
Normally people would be talking about Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 (29 pages, one thread), Monster Hunter Wilds, Civ7, and Elden Ring Nightreign.
Every topic about Xbox probably gets 5x more attention than it would otherwise get. 23 pages for Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, 13 pages for Avowed, another 22 pages for avowed... another 5 pages for avowed.
Like a Dragon has 2 pages...
Zacfoldor
Member
I don't understand why people don't grasp the modern review scale. It is disingenuous or are you people just bad at math?
To dip below 8/10 AS AN AVERAGE is a pretty hard sell when a game cost 70 dollars. It means a significant amount of people thought your game sucked. No, the review scale isn't your opinion. No it isn't the same as any other medium(if you'll notice there are also unique mainstream review scales for movies and TV shows). However, you don't get to move the goalposts when a game you like doesn't meet expectations. It is what it is.
Frankly it's insulting to me. Do you know who many times I've had my heart broken with niche games that failed to perform in the reviews, and yet none of you complained then. You only complain when it hurts a game you have an interest in. You cannot will a review score to change and you cannot will the meaning of the entire review scale to change over one game.
If you don't despair when your game gets shitty reviews, good for you. Ignorance is bliss. The rest of us that have to live in a world of winning and losing have leaned that sometimes you can't dodge the loss. Sometimes shit just doesn't go your way.
That SAID, with this game, it seems to now have an 81 on metacritic and have good steam ratings, so all of this over this game is for naught. It has passed the review test, but just because it was close enough to scare you does not mean we need to overhaul the scale.
To dip below 8/10 AS AN AVERAGE is a pretty hard sell when a game cost 70 dollars. It means a significant amount of people thought your game sucked. No, the review scale isn't your opinion. No it isn't the same as any other medium(if you'll notice there are also unique mainstream review scales for movies and TV shows). However, you don't get to move the goalposts when a game you like doesn't meet expectations. It is what it is.
Frankly it's insulting to me. Do you know who many times I've had my heart broken with niche games that failed to perform in the reviews, and yet none of you complained then. You only complain when it hurts a game you have an interest in. You cannot will a review score to change and you cannot will the meaning of the entire review scale to change over one game.
If you don't despair when your game gets shitty reviews, good for you. Ignorance is bliss. The rest of us that have to live in a world of winning and losing have leaned that sometimes you can't dodge the loss. Sometimes shit just doesn't go your way.
That SAID, with this game, it seems to now have an 81 on metacritic and have good steam ratings, so all of this over this game is for naught. It has passed the review test, but just because it was close enough to scare you does not mean we need to overhaul the scale.
Mr Moose
Member
One has Kaho Shibuya in.
Buggy Loop
Member
Wow, first time I see that video /s
Now do the same for Witcher 3, Mass Effect, KCD.
ManaByte
Member
Shhh someone did the same thing with FFVII Rebirth and boy did some people get pissed.
MayauMiao
Member
I'm waiting for someone to make such comparison. Supposedly Avowed is a "Skyrim killer".
Buggy Loop
Member
You can go into any games and find shit to stir. Any games.
I think this is a nice resume
You don't like it? Fine. You don't think its a game for you? Fine. But the dishonesty approaches like these skyrim videos do is just pure shit stirring with a huge amount of dishonesty. Had they did this exercise with all RPGs then it would be something, but its selected targeting. These RPG systems didn't save Starfield from being roasted by me even though I put a shitload of hours in and finished the game. I could go on how Avowed completely wipes the floor with Skyrim for combat and exploration, a meaningful crafting system that actually uses almost every resources you find to keep up with enemies, that there's no level scaling, that its way less janky, a tailored made world for secrets and parkour rather than open world slop with repetitive caves, etc. Anyone can approach a game, any games, and find shit to stir. I'm not impressed by peoples falling for it.
Are those peoples in the room with us? Devs had interviews literally putting it on the table that its not Skyrim.
Avowed's devs tap the it's not Skyrim sign for the third time in a year (at least), and 'don't love' to compare games, anyway
It has been 0 days since the last workplace comparison.
Are peoples retarded?
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Alebrije
Member
Dont know if this kind of videos are fair , but always surprise me 2025 games like Avowed lack of those details. Maybe is budget, time , lazy developer. Those details add inmerssion especially on an RPG.
Buggy Loop
Member
Does it?
Did it leverage Starfield to a masterpiece?
Witcher 3, Mass Effect, don't have those details. BG3 is more cRPG approach but still lack plenty of those details. KCD is again, sometimes very immersive with AI behavior but you enter a house and everything is static too. Loot systems by searching around to see when a prompt to look/steal something pops up without fuckall visual cues.
Barely any RPGs actually do what creation engine does. So let's cut the bullcrap. Elder Scrolls 6 will be trolled for almost those same reasons. "wow, look at the jank? Creation engine in 202x? TROLOLOLOL. Who cares about physics? Why does it matter if I can pick 10,000 cheeses/potatoes and stock them in a room?"
Now I enjoy all sorts of RPGs. Bethesda has their very specific feel to them and that's fine. But they're really the only ones doing that.
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MayauMiao
Member
The static NPCs and world is unbelievably bad.
I wonder if the art director tried to shift controversy towards himself just to hide the fact that Avowed world is dead static.
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FoxMcChief
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Topher
Identifies as young
It really does. Having a vibrant city does as well. These are areas where Avowed is certainly lacking. Really don't have a problem with these comparison videos myself. These are legit criticisms.
Kacho
Gold Member
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Breawh... I just had a crazy realization:
i think everyone is aware of those videos comparing Awoved vs Oblivion and Skyrim. right?
what is the first clip?
Yep, throwing arrows at the sky that don't fall.
what was shown in the reveal trailer of awoved?
An arrow flying through the sky and falling into a cave, sticking to a pile of rocks
When MS takes the L, they really take a big massive L.
i think everyone is aware of those videos comparing Awoved vs Oblivion and Skyrim. right?
what is the first clip?
Yep, throwing arrows at the sky that don't fall.
what was shown in the reveal trailer of awoved?
An arrow flying through the sky and falling into a cave, sticking to a pile of rocks
When MS takes the L, they really take a big massive L.
PeteBull
Member
Two fantastic games side by side.
