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Batman v. Superman RT Thread: like standing ovations in rain

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Yager

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If this movie does good WB learns nothing and Snyder gets to make more shit.

Who does that benefit exactly?

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You don't like his movies? That's OK. There's people that like them. Also, I wouldn't call them shit movies considering the amount of crap that goes around nowadays. At least they're fun and pretty to look at.
 

Magwik

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I'm up to page 64 and --- are people serious with those spoilers that Batman

kills people? The description sounds a lot like this Big Daddy scene

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Fucking hell, Snyder...
Good thing it's nothing like that then!
 

Slayven

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DerZuhälter;198985362 said:
Fire the entire staff and give it to Slayven. He'll know what to do.
But considering DC and WB... they'd give it to Bobby Roberts and have LiquidSnake as test audience.

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You don't want me to do it, I would have the world worshiping The Teen of Steel
 

mcrommert

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They do because people are on the fence regarding watching it or not. I read those spoilers and i'm now kind of convinced i don't want to watch that version of Superman...

This...was already on the fence but seeing reviews and reading some of these spoilers has convinced me it isn't worth it

Thanks Snyder you hack
 

neorej

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The thing most people don't seem to realize is: if this movie does good numbers, that benefits the entire genre, not only WB.

I do not understand this line of thinking. Do we, as moviegoers, need to support a bad movie in order to support a genre? Wouldn't the genre (whatever the genre is) benefit more from supporting good movies and sending the bad ones out to die? As in; buy more Deadpool-tickets and less BvS-tickets?
 

Yukinari

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You don't like his movies? That's OK. There's people that like them. Also, I wouldn't call them shit movies considering the amount of crap that goes around nowadays. At least they're fun and pretty to look at.

I do not give a shit about this movie at all but im gonna post in this thread to tell you that any garbage can be fun and pretty to look at.
 

black070

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I'm not going to write Chris Terrio off for the complaints being hurled at the story, since this one can't entirely be called his own, I'll reserve judgement on that until Justice League hits. That being said, I honestly can't get on board with Zack Snyder spearheading this universe, I've never been a fan of his work and having seen the movie myself, that hasn't changed. I certainly hope the next wave of movies fare better, I'm holding out hope for Suicide Squad as I've enjoyed David Ayer's work.
 

mcrommert

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The thing most people don't seem to realize is: if this movie does good numbers, that benefits the entire genre, not only WB.

How does it benefit the genre...if its garbage than there is no negative for the studios for making garbage. The genre in movies is fine...marvel, fox and even sony have seen to it...but wb can keep pushing garbage because they have big heroes behind it.

Well we can only hope suicide squad will bomb hugely (much smaller appeal and looks much worse even) and wb will pull back on its plans.
 

Chariot

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I do not understand this line of thinking. Do we, as moviegoers, need to support a bad movie in order to support a genre? Wouldn't the genre (whatever the genre is) benefit more from supporting good movies and sending the bad ones out to die? As in; buy more Deadpool-tickets and less BvS-tickets?
Yeah, it's Microsoft vs Sony discussion again. "You need to like Microsoft, because if you're not they will drop out and everything will be terrible with only one company and Nintento around." This is the free market at work. People should support what they like, not what some arm chair economists think what would benefit the industry.
 

Kid Goku

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I barely remember enjoying a movie that had less than 50% on RT. I used to be one of those people saying ratings and critics don't matter it's not indicative of its quality but once I matured a bit and my taste in movies expanded I kind of rarely disagree with the RT rating in a broad way. I might disagree when I see a 50%+ rated movie and end up not liking it much (comic book movies such as Iron Man 2, 3, Thor 2, MOS etc) but I rarely liked a movie that wasn't received well by critics. I'll probably watch BvS when its out on BR.
 

Kouichi

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It's a shame to see critics being so divisive since I was really hoping this would lean more towards positive than Synder's past films. Ah well, I'm not going to let something as arbitrary as a RT percentage get in the way of my excitement.

I'm just worried about how this will affect their DCEU plans. Even if this movie isn't great, stuff like Batfleck, Wonder Woman, and Suicide Squad look very promising and I'd hate to see that whole universe end so soon.
 

En-ou

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so...is it badly directed? or just a bad film? if the latter, the true culprits:

Writing Credits
Chris Terrio ... (written by) and
David S. Goyer ... (written by)
 
How does it benefit the genre...if its garbage than there is no negative for the studios for making garbage. The genre in movies is fine...marvel, fox and even sony have seen to it...but wb can keep pushing garbage because they have big heroes behind it.

Well we can only hope suicide squad will bomb hugely (much smaller appeal and looks much worse even) and wb will pull back on its plans.

Sony isn't reaping anything anymore unless they decide to go "fuck it" and do that Venom movie.

Suicide Squad has too many big names to bomb.
 

Blade30

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Well we can only hope suicide squad will bomb hugely (much smaller appeal and looks much worse even) and wb will pull back on its plans.

What, why? I'm not really that interested in suicide squad, but if the movie turns out better then BvS and has a reasonable Box Office, than WB might see what works and what not (snyder doing most of the films so far).
 

Yager

Banned
I do not understand this line of thinking. Do we, as moviegoers, need to support a bad movie in order to support a genre? Wouldn't the genre (whatever the genre is) benefit more from supporting good movies and sending the bad ones out to die? As in; buy more Deadpool-tickets and less BvS-tickets?

No, I'm not saying you need to support a bad movie. I was talking more about people who wanted this to fail from the beginning.

I do not give a shit about this movie at all but im gonna post in this thread to tell you that any garbage can be fun and pretty to look at.

Of course. Wheter that's good enough for you or not, it's your call. But the word "shit" is overused this days. I don't like the movie? Shit. It's not what I was hoping for? Shit. I didn't like how it ended? Shit. There are some plot holes? Shit. There's shit, and there's shit. I guess we should make a shitscale.
 
Yes, it can drop even lower! They haven't even added Devin F or Matt Zoller Seitz or Drew McWeeney's upcoming negative review yet

Devin Faraci has less business being on there than Armond White tbh.

But yeah this score is gonna stabilize at like 31 haha yikes. And it's not even a director I like so I'm just pure skeptical at this point
 

PBY

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No, I'm not saying you need to support a bad movie. I was talking more about people who wanted this to fail from the beginning.



Of course. Wheter that's good enough for you or not, it's your call. But the word "shit" is overused this days. I don't like the movie? Shit. It's not what I was hoping for? Shit. I didn't like how it ended? Shit. There are some plot holes? Shit. There's shit, and there's shit. I guess we should make a shitscale.
I don't think anyone - or most people - wanted this to fail. Which it won't btw. It'll make a shitload. These reviews might hurt JL tho.
 

gamz

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Yeah, it's Microsoft vs Sony discussion again. "You need to like Microsoft, because if you're not they will drop out and everything will be terrible with only one company and Nintento around." This is the free market at work. People should support what they like, not what some arm chair economists think what would benefit the industry.

Holy shit! LOL!

Wait, console warz in a movie thread. Epic.
 

Blade30

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so...is it badly directed? or just a bad film? if the latter, the true culprits:

Writing Credits
Chris Terrio ... (written by) and
David S. Goyer ... (written by)

Well so far I read/heard that the editing and pacing of the movie is a hot mess, also it's not clear what the motives on each or most characters are. Some acting parts with Superman and Wonder Woman seem to be wooden, which looks to me that they weren't given good directions.
 
*wakes up, sees everything on fire*
...yeah, that's about what I expected to happen

I think audiences will like it a bit more, but you could see this coming.
 

gamz

Member
What, why? I'm not really that interested in suicide squad, but if the movie turns out better then BvS and has a reasonable Box Office, than WB might see what works and what not (snyder doing most of the films so far).

I can't see it getting worse reviews....Right? I mean Right!!!
 

Interfectum

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The thing most people don't seem to realize is: if this movie does good numbers, that benefits the entire genre, not only WB.

Eh, you are talking like comic book movies are indie startups. Whether this movie does good or bad doesn't really effect MCU, X-Men or the rest.

If anything, BvS disappointing or bombing will make them recheck the quality of their films and direction so they don't suffer the same fate.
 

Minamu

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I read a Swedish review that said that this Batman has no issues killing villains/goons "if necessary". Is that happening in the movie? For being such a massive Batman fan, he sure had no problems with this borderline character-assassination if true o_O
 
As StaticJam said:



Yes, there a people who were already convinced that they were going to like it, as there were people already convinced that they would hate it. For me? I'm seeing it tonight and I think I will like it. What if I don't? Well, I've got hundreds of comic books to read, Suicide Squad, Civil War and Xmen are coming...

The thing most people don't seem to realize is: if this movie does good numbers, that benefits the entire genre, not only WB.

I mean, why should we care about who it benefits? If it's a poor movie it deserves to do poorly. Deadpool just pulled in amazing numbers, the genre doesn't need any help.
 

jmood88

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Even though I'll be there day one no matter what, I don't know why people had such faith in Terrio. Yeah he won an Oscar but he doesn't have a large enough body of work imo.

Also after that recent interview it sounds like he doesn't want to write JL part 2, and instead give that to someone else and move on.
That's what I was asking when the "trust in Terrio" stuff kept being repeated when it was announced he was working on the script.
 

Kid Goku

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Sony isn't reaping anything anymore unless they decide to go "fuck it" and do that Venom movie.

Sony letting Marvel run Spidy was a good decision, they'll bounce back from it just from the Marvel brand alone. Which is very crucial to Sony.

Suicide Squad has too many big names to bomb.

Well to be fair there aren't too many big names in SS (Will Smith isn't as huge as he was before, Leto isn't that big as well as the rest of the cast.). Besides there have been plenty of movies with big names that bombed hard.

But based on the trailers so far SS looks to be, at worst, a decent flick.
 

Yager

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I mean, why should we care about who it benefits? If it's a poor movie it deserves to do poorly. Deadpool just pulled in amazing numbers, the genre doesn't need any help.

No, but if this means that we can get more DC characters on the big screen, then great. The more, the better.
 
I always knew from the get go that movie was going to be garbage. I never liked the trailer and no one I know, people who represent the general population, are just not interested in the movie.
 
Anyone hoping that this bombs hard so that Snyder is taken off the future movies? Or even a complete reboot?
At least I hope JL is given another director/writer because I actually really care about that franchise. JL doesn't need to be dark and broody.
This movie gives me hope that Batfleck film is actually going to be good.

Edit: Just watched Jeremy Jahns' review, "Better When Drunk" should totally be a rating now.
 

Fliesen

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I don't think anyone - or most people - wanted this to fail. Which it won't btw. It'll make a shitload. These reviews might hurt JL tho.

It'll make a shitload because it's a new Batman movie, though.

Seeing as franchises / universes get more stale and more convoluted, and usually "worse" throughout their lifespan, looking at the trajectory of the DCEU (DCCU? DCMU?) doesn't make me too hopeful.
 
I don't want the movie to bomb and I'm sure it won't. I'm willing to bet every other DC film will have a higher rating than this. Wouldn't be surprised if Suicide Squad ends up in the 70's or low 80's.
 

gamz

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Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if Suicide Squad turns out to be a better film, but I wouldn't be shocked if it falls in the same closet.

Ayer is a tighter director and seems to really fit the material. I have high hopes for it. I always had higher hopes for that then this.
 

PBY

Banned
It'll make a shitload because it's a new Batman movie, though.

Seeing as franchises / universes get more stale and more convoluted, and usually "worse" throughout their lifespan, looking at the trajectory of the DCEU (DCCU? DCMU?) doesn't make me too hopeful.
Oh totally agree. WB has to be freaking out, not sure what they expected with Snyder tho.
 
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