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Chris Dring: Microsoft was the No.1 games publisher in the world last month | 64% of spend on Microsoft games in December came on PlayStation devices
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They still make considerably more $ percentage wise on Xbox players so that's probably their most valued customer. Just sayin.MS is gonna keep treating PlayStation users like royalty, knowing that they are their most valued customers.
Shaki12345
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That's nice but 1 year ago Microsoft was doomed according to this forum.
This industry changes quickly and is going to reinvent. Sony needs to watch out. They are making the mistakes Microsoft already made.
Hudo
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I think it's a co-dependency. Sony also relies on CoD and other IPs under Microsofts umbrella.
Killjoy-NL
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As long as there are still Xbox players left, that is.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Oh?
Microsoft Reportedly Consider Winding Down Xbox Back in 2021
Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella reportedly chose between acquiring major game studios to bolster Game Pass, or wind down Xbox entirely.
www.thegamer.com
XXL
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Stop spreading lies.
Most people think Xbox as a console is doomed and Xbox as a publisher will be successful....and we were 100% right.
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Shaki12345
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If you want to make a point make it. Not going to read through some article.Oh?
Microsoft Reportedly Consider Winding Down Xbox Back in 2021
Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella reportedly chose between acquiring major game studios to bolster Game Pass, or wind down Xbox entirely.
Killjoy-NL
Member
You don't need to read through the article. It says it right there.
Anyway,
XXL
already corrected you more clearly.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
So if I am understanding the narrative of XBOX correctly they want to be the STEAM of the console space and just put the games out on whatever can play them or is this a more sinister move... like give everyone the games they want for a few years and then have a change at the top and the NEW head of Xbox says that all the games you have been playing are now exclusive to the "XBOX OS" client that can be installed on certain devices including the NEXT GEN XBOX SURFACE X?
(Sorry if it sounds like I'm taking out of my ass it's just hard to follow the XBOX messaging this gen)
(Sorry if it sounds like I'm taking out of my ass it's just hard to follow the XBOX messaging this gen)
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Shaki12345
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I don't need your or his correction. But thanks for trying.You don't need to read through the article. It says it right there.
Anyway,
PatientGamer
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Well of course they're the biggest. They now own CoD and every other trash that Gen Z and millennial casuals are buying in droves.
If I were Sony I'd charge a higher platform fee /commission rate for games from Microsoft being listed on the store.
Remember Microsoft's intentions from the email leaks, they want to outspend Sony out of business.
As for Microsoft, this is the perfect Trojan horse to owning the whole industry.
They'll take EA next.
Sony needs to respond by taking Square Enix and Capcom.
If I were Sony I'd charge a higher platform fee /commission rate for games from Microsoft being listed on the store.
Remember Microsoft's intentions from the email leaks, they want to outspend Sony out of business.
As for Microsoft, this is the perfect Trojan horse to owning the whole industry.
They'll take EA next.
Sony needs to respond by taking Square Enix and Capcom.
Zacfoldor
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64% of spend on Microsoft games in December came on PlayStation devices
Where my PC bros at? Surely yall aren't gamepass people? I thought you were cool.
I guess all MS plans are for naught becasue even if they do overtake steam, apparently PC gamers don't buy games. Even the super small PS5 userbase can vastly outspend the PC one when it comes to MS games.
The problem with PC ever being a major player and getting GTA on day 1 is that PC gamers don't buy new games, full priced games, and will need to be locked down with Denuvo to prevent people from just stealing the game and playing it for free. The day PC players can get over trying to nickel and dime the industry for content will be the day we no longer need Sony. That day will never come. The reason we have to suffer f2p games is because of you.
Oh No Baby! What Is You Doin?
Where my PC bros at? Surely yall aren't gamepass people? I thought you were cool.
I guess all MS plans are for naught becasue even if they do overtake steam, apparently PC gamers don't buy games. Even the super small PS5 userbase can vastly outspend the PC one when it comes to MS games.
The problem with PC ever being a major player and getting GTA on day 1 is that PC gamers don't buy new games, full priced games, and will need to be locked down with Denuvo to prevent people from just stealing the game and playing it for free. The day PC players can get over trying to nickel and dime the industry for content will be the day we no longer need Sony. That day will never come. The reason we have to suffer f2p games is because of you.
Oh No Baby! What Is You Doin?
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Killjoy-NL
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No worries.
This was free of charge. Thought it'd go well with Xbox fans' expectations.
Shaki12345
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I am not a Xbox fan nor am I fan of any company. Nintendo is the only company I can respect these days.
Gaming is what I'm a fan of.
Dorfdad
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man you went straight for my throat with that zinger!
azertydu91
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Killjoy-NL
Member
So are we all.
Anyway, maybe it's just me, but if Sony accounted for 64% spend, it seems MS lost spending on other platforms.
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FoxMcChief
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I think you mean Xbox users.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Didn't want to distract from the main subject when I was only replying to one person.
Gamer_By_Proxy
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Can’t beat them, join them!
At this rate, Phil might announce games at the next Playststion Showcase.
At this rate, Phil might announce games at the next Playststion Showcase.
it's going to be alot more than just call of duty and they never took it away. If ms were to become like playstaions number 1 pub for the next 10 years it'll be interesting to see how people would react if the games were to suddenly go away after that and be a pc or nintendo exclusive.
Killjoy-NL
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I'd love to see them try. That'll probably be the end of COD, as it's already on a decline.
It's also why Sony is after their own live-service games and why Jim Ryan secured the 10 year COD-deal.
FoxMcChief
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Thirsty PS gamers just need their FPS fix. Maybe less Horizon and more Killzone could see that 64% fall.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Please share with all of us whatever you've been smoking if you think they are ever gonna "pull the rug" lol
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I doubt it. Game Pass does not have enough subscribers / revenue (only 10-15% of Xbox's division total revenue). And they sell hardware at a loss.
Most of their profitability, if any, must be coming from PlayStation.
Guardian Monkey
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LOL FFS
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Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Is the Best-Selling Game of 2024 in the U.S.
It's a return to the top for Call of Duty after Hogwarts Legacy took No.1. spot last year.
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Is the Best-Selling Game of 2024 in the U.S. - IGN
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 is the best selling game of both December 2024 and the full year 2024 in the U.S., returning to the No.1 spot after Hogwarts Legacy took the crown in 2023.
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Jim Ryan didnt force the deal, LOL. It was CMA
The UK is giving Microsoft more time to explain why its historic $69 billion acquisition of Activision Blizzard should be legal
A judge wants more information from the UK antitrust agency and for Microsoft to explain the significance of its recent side deal with Sony.
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vaibhavpisal
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This is why PS is trying to make GAAS titles.
It all makes sense now. They seem overly concerned about this.
Astray
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This %64 PS percentage will only increase with time imo. They haven't released the big 3 Xbox franchises + Starfield on there yet.
You also have to factor storewide sales here (PS and Steam both had a big one in December), this revenue is depressed by anywhere between %15-40 depending on the game.
From memory, I recall how Activision Blizzard used to have PC as its highest revenue platform. They still haven't really released any big Bethesda titles since they bought them either (only HiFi Rush so far, right?).
So did the PC revenue flatline or what?
You also have to factor storewide sales here (PS and Steam both had a big one in December), this revenue is depressed by anywhere between %15-40 depending on the game.
What's shocking to me is how low PC is in that split.
From memory, I recall how Activision Blizzard used to have PC as its highest revenue platform. They still haven't really released any big Bethesda titles since they bought them either (only HiFi Rush so far, right?).
So did the PC revenue flatline or what?
If current trends persist, the Xbox hardware will become a pure cost center for Microsoft and Nadella will jettison it or make drastic cuts.
FoxMcChief
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I wonder how first party Sony games sales stack up against Call of Duty profits on PlayStation.
Did Sony profit more from their own games, or from Call of Duty and its microstransactions?
Did Sony profit more from their own games, or from Call of Duty and its microstransactions?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Concord, Until Dawn remake and Lego Horizon have all seemingly bombed, with Concord sinking $400m or so, and Astro, while good, didn't burn the charts .. so very likely not.
CoD came out at the end of October and became the top selling game in just a little over 2 months, for reference.
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Killjoy-NL
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None of you stop to think that revenue from PC and Xbox might be declining, hence why Playstation share is increasing?
It's not like those PS gamers on COD never existed before MS bought ABK.
FoxMcChief
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They were always Xbox gamers. They just didn’t know it yet.
Killjoy-NL
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That's the part of my post I'd focus on as well, if I were an Xbox fan.
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FoxMcChief
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We’re all Xbox fans.
Mr Moose
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They have been exclusive (except for PC) until recently. They bought two multiplat publishers and they can't take away CoD for a long while yet (and it would be fucked without PS). The 64% is from CoD "It also includes the release of Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, which launched in December." Indiana Jones hasn't launched on PS5.
Doom85
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DeepEnigma
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tTHANOSs
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Phil spencer logic only it has backfired on him. He just won't admit it
twilo99
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Microsoft has been dying for decades and Xbox has been dead for at least 3 years now.
.. all confirmed by boxed sales in Spain and Germany of course.
Topher
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When is that rug pulling supposed to happen? And is Phil Spencer going to resign right after that having cut off a massive chunk of Xbox revenue?
splattered
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Only a matter of time till you know who follows suit...
HeWhoWalks
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If Microsoft are that stupid and want to lose money, sure. Because that’s not the case, this will forever be a zealot’s dream and nothing else.
vaibhavpisal
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That explains poor sales of Lego Horizon and Astro Bot.
MS definitely thinks long term.
Topher
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Only a matter of time till you know who follows suit...
I really don't see why. Microsoft needs PlayStation. Sony does not need Xbox.