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I really don't see why. Microsoft needs PlayStation. Sony does not need Xbox.

Sony needs money and growth like any other company.

Putting games on Xbox will bring revenue. Game sales and microtransactions. Engagement numbers to brag to shareholders etc.

Unless they're going to scale back to AA titles and no more uber expensive AAA...

Pick your poison.

 

[DeepEnigma]

“Xbox is going the way of Sega!”

Xbox is the #1 game publisher in the world:

Sega is now a publisher though.

 

[yogaflame]

That is why MS has to go back being a third party developer and publisher, they have an amazing team and talent, to develop games. Console business is really not for MS. Throughout the years, Xbox console really lost there appeal, world wide especially Asia and Europe.

 

[onQ123]

What time does Microsoft release their Quarterly report today?

I expect overall good numbers but chances are Chris is trying to get out ahead of something on the gaming side.

 

[Topher]

Sony needs money and growth like any other company.

Putting games on Xbox will bring revenue. Game sales and microtransactions. Engagement numbers to brag to shareholders etc.

Unless they're going to scale back to AA titles and no more uber expensive AAA...

Pick your poison.

Sony isn't that desperate for revenue. Certainly not desperate enough to publish games on their competition's platform which could potentially help revitalize that platform and rekindle the console war that they just won. None of that would make strategic sense at all.

Sega is now a publisher though.

Damn....he walked right into that one, didn't he?

 

[IDKFA]

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

That wasn't my intention.

It's clealry a good thing for Microsoft as they're making more money. Good for gamers as well, who I'm sure will be able to play all Microsoft published games on their platform of choice.

I'm also Microsoft will still produce some form of hardware as well for people who have bought into the Xbox ecosystem.

Win for everyone.

 

[Beechos]

If Microsoft are that stupid and want to lose money, sure. Because that’s not the case, this will forever be a zealot’s dream and nothing else.

I mean this is the company that takes multi billion dollar shits. Zune, Nokia, mixr, 360 rrod. Who knows

 

[RetroGamingUK]

What time does Microsoft release their Quarterly report today?

I expect overall good numbers but chances are Chris is trying to get out ahead of something on the gaming side.

5:30pm ET

 

[Beechos]

When is that rug pulling supposed to happen? And is Phil Spencer going to resign right after that having cut off a massive chunk of Xbox revenue?

The plan at that point would be to make it up somewhere else of course. If they hold the majority share of software sales is it not feasible for them to get better terms somewhere else? Instead of them paying 30% to sony maybe nintendo or steam will get exclusivity and char ge them 20% instead.

 

[Griffon]

"Microsoft"

That's a weird way to spell Activision.

 

[onQ123]

5:30pm ET

Thanks

 

[Topher]

The plan at that point would be to make it up somewhere else of course. If they hold the majority share of software sales is it not feasible for them to get better terms somewhere else? Instead of them paying 30% to sony maybe nintendo or steam will get exclusivity and char ge them 20% instead.

So you are going to yank games away from the platform that accounts for 64% of consumer spending of your games so you can possibly get a 10% discount somewhere else?

No.....I don't think that is feasible at all.

 

[Idleyes]

PS users have been playing Call of Duty for years.

So, PlayStation users built their own Trojan Horse, watched the enemy climb aboard, and then decided to keep it.

 

[mayham2199]

Sony needs money and growth like any other company.

Putting games on Xbox will bring revenue. Game sales and microtransactions. Engagement numbers to brag to shareholders etc.

Unless they're going to scale back to AA titles and no more uber expensive AAA...

Pick your poison.

They still have the switch 2 even if they did need money that desperately. Releasing on Xbox right now when Xbox is clearly hurting would be the worst business decision they've ever made.

 

[Beechos]

So you are going to yank games away from the platform that accounts for 64% of consumer spending of your games so you can possible get a 10% discount somewhere else?

No.....I don't think that is feasible at all.

Whatever they do the bigger they get the more leverage and influence they have with sony or anyone else.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Sony needs money and growth like any other company.

Putting games on Xbox will bring revenue. Game sales and microtransactions. Engagement numbers to brag to shareholders etc.

Unless they're going to scale back to AA titles and no more uber expensive AAA...

Pick your poison.

Are you coming from the past on a different timeline?

 

[Three]

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Sony needs money and growth like any other company.

Putting games on Xbox will bring revenue. Game sales and microtransactions. Engagement numbers to brag to shareholders etc.

This is where you're making a silly mistake.

 

[FoxMcChief]

"Microsoft"

That's a weird way to spell Activision.

It’s kind of like when someone says Sony gamer, when they’re actually an Xbox gamer.

 

[DJ12]

Sony will probably want a piece of pie too.

Expect Nintendo to get left behind.

They already get 30% from digital sales dont they, no idea what they get from physical, but who cares these days really.

This kinda proves Satya was right to embrace PlayStation, not only is the PS brand big enough for Sony, it's also big enough to save Xbox (game studios)

 

[HeWhoWalks]

I mean this is the company that takes multi billion dollar shits. Zune, Nokia, mixr, 360 rrod. Who knows

This is not just a multi billion dollar shit. It's IP suicide and I don't think they'd do that. Not with this IP.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

No thanks, there are numerous threads recently on that subject you can check out for confirmation.

So, "trust me bro". Got it.

 

[LordOcidax]

Nice Trojan horse strategy get all the ps users hooked on their games and then pull the rug right underneath them.

Imagine giving your money to the company you most hate because console war and after that laugh to then because you think they did a bad business decision…

 

[mayham2199]

Imagine giving your money to the company you most hate because console war and after that laugh to then because you think they did a bad business decision…

Well to be clear I think this is a bad business decision for a platform holder. For a 3rd party publisher this is an amazing decision. I think that's where the confusion comes from. So yea if Xbox doesn't care about selling hardware this is a great decision. If they do care about selling hardware then it's a horrible decision.

Also considering most of their gamepass users are from console then I assume they also don't care about selling GP subs.

 

[Woopah]

LOL, how is this "news"? They bought the largest 3rd party publisher in the world... It's now somehow surprising that they had a month where they were the biggest publisher after buying the biggest publisher? Let's do better...

It's an article about the latest monthly Ampere report, so counts a news I would say. A bunch of different stats in there.

Well done Microsoft take that 70% from Sony shills.

Does "shills" just mean people who play games?

 

[Hookshot]

Does "shills" just mean people who play games?

It all depends on how long they have been here

Sony Cancels the PlayStation MVP Program

Sony confirms that it is bringing the PlayStation MVP program to an end, with the tech giant closing down the video game community scheme as of April 18.

gamerant.com

 

[LordOcidax]

Well to be clear I think this is a bad business decision for a platform holder. For a 3rd party publisher this is an amazing decision. I think that's where the confusion comes from. So yea if Xbox doesn't care about selling hardware this is a great decision. If they do care about selling hardware then it's a horrible decision.

Also considering most of their gamepass users are from console then I assume they also don't care about selling GP subs.

IMAO They ONLY care about make money, like every company, if they manage to put green numbers on their financials reports they are going to be happy. Buying Activision was a power move and a risky one but at the same time they avoided to pay more taxes because the investment (If the taxes system in US works like in my country) so.. a the end is a win win situation for Microsoft. GP and hardware are now just fractions of their business.

 

[Woopah]

It all depends on how long they have been here

Sony Cancels the PlayStation MVP Program

Sony confirms that it is bringing the PlayStation MVP program to an end, with the tech giant closing down the video game community scheme as of April 18.

gamerant.com

What is the link between that article in 2016 and people who buy Call of Duty in 2024?

 

[Hookshot]

What is the link between that article in 2016 and people who buy Call of Duty in 2024?

You asked about my Sony shills comment, this place as outlined in that article is still riddled with those former Sony shills. It was a widely known program and now you know, so you've learned something today and can leave this discussion a little less ignorant.

 

[Idleyes]

Well to be clear I think this is a bad business decision for a platform holder. For a 3rd party publisher this is an amazing decision. I think that's where the confusion comes from. So yea if Xbox doesn't care about selling hardware this is a great decision. If they do care about selling hardware then it's a horrible decision.

Also considering most of their gamepass users are from console then I assume they also don't care about selling GP subs.

Treating Xbox as a separate entity from Microsoft is a reach only folks a part of the PS cult would make. Xbox is a division of Microsoft, and its strategy is intrinsically tied to Microsoft’s broader goals. That's like saying Disney is hurting ticket sales to Disneyland because they push Disney IP's on other platforms.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

So, "trust me bro". Got it.

Were you not a gamer for the last three generations?

 

[Woopah]

You asked about my Sony shills comment, this place as outlined in that article is still riddled with those former Sony shills. It was a widely known program and now you know, so you've learned something today and can leave this discussion a little less ignorant.

Ah okay. So the shills in this case are people who were part of that programme and may or may not have bought a MS game on Playstation.

 

[mayham2199]

IMAO They ONLY care about make money, like every company, if they manage to put green numbers on their financials reports they are going to be happy. Buying Activision was a power move and a risky one but at the same time they avoided to pay more taxes because the investment (If the taxes system in US works like in my country) so.. a the end is a win win situation for Microsoft. GP and hardware are now just fractions of their business.

Well then they are making great decisions. Unfortunately the latest report is showing it's still not enough with the division being down 7% overall.

Treating Xbox as a separate entity from Microsoft is a reach only folks a part of the PS cult would make. Xbox is a division of Microsoft, and its strategy is intrinsically tied to Microsoft’s broader goals. That's like saying Disney is hurting ticket sales to Disneyland because they push Disney IP's on other platforms.

Honestly I don't know what you are trying to say here. I didn't treat MS and Xbox as separate entities. I simply said that the plan is a great move for a 3rd party publisher but not for a platform holder who is focused on selling their hardware in order to make money back on the 30% from every sale.

 

[LordOcidax]

Well then they are making great decisions. Unfortunately the latest report is showing it's still not enough with the division being down 7% overall.

Still 6.5 Billion in revenue despite the massive 29% drop in hardware. Image what could be happened if they didn’t acquired Activision. BTW… What are the revenue expectations for Playstation in their next quarterly report?

 

[mayham2199]

Still 6.5 Billion in revenue despite the massive 29% drop in hardware. Image what could be happened if they didn’t acquired Activision. BTW… What are the revenue expectations for Playstation in their next quarterly report?

I don't remember what they predicted. I know the last report was very good for them. Looks like their earnings calls is in about 2 weeks on 2/13.

 

[Ebrietas]

They are getting 30% of that pie.

After the collapse of the Xbox user base, Sony gets an even bigger share of the pie than they used to. And they no longer have to pay ABK for any exclusivity deals. A win-win.

This is the result of MS’ 70 billion dollar “investment”.

 

[Topher]

Whatever they do the bigger they get the more leverage and influence they have with sony or anyone else.

The bigger they get on the back of PlayStation the more dependent they are on PlayStation. Just like every other third party publisher.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Well well well, the biggest Xbox haters are closet Xbox lovers. Probably playing Sea of Thieves while mashing those laughing emojis in Xbox threads.

 

[Mr Moose]

Well well well, the biggest Xbox haters are closet Xbox lovers. Probably playing Sea of Thieves while mashing those laughing emojis in Xbox threads.

I do enjoy some Call of Duty.
Sea of Thieves, though?

Not with those ugly ass characters.

 

[onQ123]

Well well well, the biggest Xbox haters are closet Xbox lovers. Probably playing Sea of Thieves while mashing those laughing emojis in Xbox threads.

I think you better read the room lol

 

[SmurfMustard]

The bigger they get on the back of PlayStation the more dependent they are on PlayStation. Just like every other third party publisher.

That is a two way street.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well well well, the biggest Xbox haters are closet Xbox lovers. Probably playing Sea of Thieves while mashing those laughing emojis in Xbox threads.

 

[damidu]

They don’t need Playstation. They need Playstation players.

Which can easily be brought to other side by pulling a rug.

Sony needs money and growth like any other company.

Putting games on Xbox will bring revenue. Game sales and microtransactions. Engagement numbers to brag to shareholders etc.

Unless they're going to scale back to AA titles and no more uber expensive AAA...

Pick your poison.

lolol, you guys are beyond repair broken, love it

 

[adamsapple]

Well well well, the biggest Xbox haters are closet Xbox lovers. Probably playing Sea of Thieves while mashing those laughing emojis in Xbox threads.

We all game Xbox.

 

[Topher]

That is a two way street.

I wouldn't say equally.

 

[CLW]

Hey we bought COD look we win

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

"No red lines"

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Well well well, the biggest Xbox haters are closet Xbox lovers. Probably playing Sea of Thieves while mashing those laughing emojis in Xbox threads.

 

[TheGodfather07]

Microsoft finally realised they need PlayStation to be successful in this industry. They wanted to take sony out but had to bow down instead.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

That is a two way street.

 

[Topher]

Well well well, the biggest Xbox haters are closet Xbox lovers. Probably playing Sea of Thieves while mashing those laughing emojis in Xbox threads.

Yes.....those guys are surely your prime Microsoft fanboys.