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[MrA]

Xbone was $199 yes, ps4 was never $199.

Yes it was, w

This $199 PS4 and 'Spider-Man' Black Friday bundle has my bargain-sense tingling | TechCrunch

I'm calling it — this is the best deal of this year's Black Friday season. It's bonkers. Sony is selling a PlayStation 4 Slim with the new "Spider-Man" game for $199. That's way too little money.

techcrunch.com

PS4 Black Friday 2017 Game Deals: All The PlayStation 4 Games, Consoles, And Accessories On Sale

We've put together a list of all the best Black Friday 2017 deals for PS4, including those from Best Buy, Walmart, and Target, featuring games like Call of Duty: WWII, Grand Theft Auto V, Assassin's Creed Origins, and many more.

www.gamespot.com

The 3-Game $199 PS4 Black Friday Bundle Deal Is Still In Stock at Walmart: Includes Last of Us Remastered, God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn - IGN

With three of the best games, ever, included with the console, this is the best sale on PS4 ever.

www.ign.com

 

[jm89]

So we are looking at close to 2:1 ratio between playstation and Xbox.

 

[demigod]

Yes it was, w

This $199 PS4 and 'Spider-Man' Black Friday bundle has my bargain-sense tingling | TechCrunch

I'm calling it — this is the best deal of this year's Black Friday season. It's bonkers. Sony is selling a PlayStation 4 Slim with the new "Spider-Man" game for $199. That's way too little money.

techcrunch.com

PS4 Black Friday 2017 Game Deals: All The PlayStation 4 Games, Consoles, And Accessories On Sale

We've put together a list of all the best Black Friday 2017 deals for PS4, including those from Best Buy, Walmart, and Target, featuring games like Call of Duty: WWII, Grand Theft Auto V, Assassin's Creed Origins, and many more.

www.gamespot.com

The 3-Game $199 PS4 Black Friday Bundle Deal Is Still In Stock at Walmart: Includes Last of Us Remastered, God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn - IGN

With three of the best games, ever, included with the console, this is the best sale on PS4 ever.

www.ign.com

You were talking about months and you linked Black Friday. Xboxone was $199 year round unlike ps4.

 

[GigaBowser]

PS5

Series

Switch

 

[jm89]

Phil as we approach 2027

 

[DenchDeckard]

Phil as we approach 2027

Yup, Microsoft needs to see some crazy uplift at 399. If that doesn't work they gotta go 350 permanent in the new year and ship those big games.

I just hope the lesson they learn from this is you need a consistent stream of good marketed games.

This gen has been abysmal for them.

All they can do is try and reduce the decline....like a marathon runner finding some f9rm of energy for the second half of the race.

If Microsoft is serious about this they need to invest that cash into price.

 

[DForce]

Phil as we approach 2027

This is his excuse?

 

[Ar¢tos]

I think Sony completely gave up on PSVR2 already.
Sales aren't reported and stores are running out of stock slowly because there has been no shipments. All major stores here have no stock, there are a few leftovers in smaller/less known stores.
Unless they are doing a hardware revision, but the timing seems terrible, with Black Friday and Xmas now.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I think Sony completely gave up on PSVR2 already.
Sales aren't reported and stores are running out of stock slowly because there has been no shipments. All major stores here have no stock, there are a few leftovers in smaller/less known stores.
Unless they are doing a hardware revision, but the timing seems terrible, with Black Friday and Xmas now.

Deep down, we all knew it was sent to die. I just think they'd assigned budget and gone so far with R&D that they thought they have to get it out the door then leave it to tick along.

I think this will be it from Sony on VR now.

 

[kazuyamishima]

At $299 and $499 for Series S and X, MS is already losing between $100-200 per console.

If the go for a permanent $349/399, the loses will be even greater.

 

[Crayon]

Xbone was $199 yes, ps4 was never $199.

I think it was. I remember when my friend got a slim, it was 199 just a little later. Memory might be failing, but I think it was at the time they had that gold one.

 

[yazenov]

I know its a dumb logic but we were informed that console sales don't matter for MS in this forum by some Xbox enthusiasts, if so, why are they trying desperately to sell those consoles at a loss? They are aggressively discounting both the Xbox Series S and Series X in hopes of increasing console sales while taking a huge hit on their profit.

So the next person who says console sales don't matter and MS cares only about engagements should have their post privileges revoked for being a dumb F.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Deep down, we all knew it was sent to die. I just think they'd assigned budget and gone so far with R&D that they thought they have to get it out the door then leave it to tick along.

I think this will be it from Sony on VR now.

I don't think they lose money with it. R&D is not much, they just improved on PSVR1, only takes a couple of guys to design it, most components they make themselves (if not all) and it isn't sold at a loss.
I understand it is important to "have it" to differentiate from the competition, but I was expecting Sony to fake some more support for it instead of going full on "don't care, your job is just to exist, not to sell".

 

[DForce]

I know its a dumb logic but we were informed that console sales don't matter for MS in this forum by some Xbox enthusiasts, if so, why are they trying desperately to sell those consoles at a loss? They are aggressively discounting both the Xbox Series S and Series X in hopes of increasing console sales while taking a huge hit on their profit.

So the next person who says console sales don't matter and MS cares only about engagements should have their post privileges revoked for being a dumb F.

Xbox enthusiasts care more about controlling the narrative than anything else.

In 2021, Xbox was winning monthly charts in the UK and US, but they ignored the supply issues and wanted everyone to praise Microsoft because they believed their strategy was working. Now that the sales gap has widened, console sales no longer matter.
Before MS acquired Zenimax, exclusives didn't matter and now they do.

They love to change the narrative based on how MS is doing.

 

[Woopah]

It comes down to software sales and subscription rates. If they can release a PS5 handheld and sell the PS5 as an entry level gaming device with largely the same games as the PS6, that means you can sell the PS6 as a premium machine with high margin to core gamers.

If there isn't any competition, core gamers will buy it, meanwhile you're still selling games on the handheld and entry level device.

The PS2 was eventually as cheap as 100 dollars. The PS3 was never less than $269, though the wii dropped to 129.

The PS4's cheapest was $299, though I think it is safe to assume had it not been for the pandemic, it could have dropped to as low as 200, with the PS4 Pro dropping to 300 and the PS5 digital starting at 400 and the PS5 starting at 500.

I fully expect Sony to redesign the PS5 and release a super slim with additional cost savings and if they can get it to the 200-250 range, I think it'll sell a historic number of units in addition again to a handheld version.

If Microsoft drops out of the market before the PS6 comes out, fully expect the PS6 to be significantly more expensive.

I would be very very surprised if PS5 ever got to the 250 level. I think cost inflation has pretty much ruled that out for the foreseeable future.

This is his excuse?

Excuse for what?

 

[StealthGoblin]

If I'm GameStop and I know Microsoft are gonna drop physical media like it's hot then I'm gonna cosy up to the platforms that are still embracing physical media.

You are in a bad place if the shops won't even recommend your platform much.

 

[DForce]

Excuse for what?

I was late. Never mind. I completely missed the part about the appeal. lol

 

[mejin]

Worst november for Xbox since...I don't even remember anymore. It's joever.

PS5 didn't exploded, but Worldwide numbers are crazy.

Switch is dead.

 

[Woopah]

Worst november for Xbox since...I don't even remember anymore. It's joever.

PS5 didn't exploded, but Worldwide numbers are crazy.

Switch is dead.

Worst November for Xbox since 2006.

 

[MrTired]

Xbox is down similar in Europe as well

 

[hlm666]

I think Sony completely gave up on PSVR2 already.
Sales aren't reported and stores are running out of stock slowly because there has been no shipments. All major stores here have no stock, there are a few leftovers in smaller/less known stores.
Unless they are doing a hardware revision, but the timing seems terrible, with Black Friday and Xmas now.

Go have a look in the quest thread, I was only interested in the quest 2 and 3 sales so wasn't bothered posting the tweet/data in any other threads or getting pulled into any platform wars.

 

[John Wick]

I always found it weird that this game is a finger to the woke crowd, when it's actually really really good in terms of diversity.

More to the fact that they tried to get the game cancelled and failed and tried to silence JK Rowling and failed there too. You can't argue against scientific facts.

 

[Woopah]

More to the fact that they tried to get the game cancelled and failed and tried to silence JK Rowling and failed there too. You can't argue against scientific facts.

I do get that, its just odd that its being cancelled for J K Rowling's views and not for anything the game actually does itself.

 

[MisterXDTV]

 

[zapper]

I don't know if we can deduce that series s is doing badly in us (and ww), but it's from the announcement that I find this sku a stupid move.

 

[MisterXDTV]

 

[yazenov]

November 2023 - Hardware sales estimates:


US
PS5 : 1,062,000
XBS : 584,000

Europe
PS5 : 978,000
XBS :54,000

UK
PS5 : 240,000
XBS : 130,000

Japan
PS5 : 274,263
XBX: 14,764

Total
PS5: 2,554,263
XBS: 782,764

 

[Deerock71]

I'll be a +1 for Hogwart's in December on Switch.

 

[Mr Moose]

plz tell me that is a shopped pic

i really hope so

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg?lang=en

 

[2612]

Someone please email to MS and tell them that EU already allowed them to buy ABK. They don't have to make themselves look bad anymore.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Someone please email to MS and tell them that EU already allowed them to buy ABK. They don't have to make themselves look bad anymore.

This reminds me of comments like "Xbox is deliberately holding back Series X|S supply so they can show the CMA and EU regulators the disparity in console market share."

 

[FrankWza]

This reminds me of comments like "Xbox is deliberately holding back Series X|S supply so they can show the CMA and EU regulators the disparity in console market share."

 

[GHG]

congrats to phil and all the xbox team for their amazing hard work over the years. Now is paying off.

Getting that t-shirt to fit was probably his career moment.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

 

[SneakersSO]

Yup, Microsoft needs to see some crazy uplift at 399. If that doesn't work they gotta go 350 permanent in the new year and ship those big games.

I just hope the lesson they learn from this is you need a consistent stream of good marketed games.

Microsoft, for reasons that will be made very clear in the not too distant future, is going to fully stop caring about HW sales.

Its happening.

 

[AyraSutoraifu]

congrats to phil and all the xbox team for their amazing hard work over the years. Now is paying off.

Is that my dawg Timdog?? Dude got a new fan here... God, i love unhinged delusional people.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Is that my dawg Timdog?? Dude got a new fan here... God, i love unhinged delusional people.

is GreenBear

 

[AyraSutoraifu]

is GreenBear

Ah... they look the same then...

 

[SneakersSO]

November 2023 - Hardware sales estimates:


US
PS5 : 1,062,000
XBS : 584,000

Europe
PS5 : 978,000
XBS :54,000

UK
PS5 : 240,000
XBS : 130,000

Japan
PS5 : 274,263
XBX: 14,764

Total
PS5: 2,554,263
XBS: 782,764

I'm speaking on this in another thread already, but just to be clear:

no one, and I mean NO ONE, imagined MS would sell less than 1m consoles in Nov. This is disaster territory. Explains the move to 3rd party launches for them.

 

[yazenov]

I'm speaking on this in another thread already, but just to be clear:

no one, and I mean NO ONE, imagined MS would sell less than 1m consoles in Nov. This is disaster territory. Explains the move to 3rd party launches for them.

Yes, not many people predicted that the XBS would flop worse than the Xbox One. It will be fun to read all those past comments about how this time would be different for MS since this time the "competition" would be stronger than the last gen.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Europe
PS5 : 978,000
XBS :54,000

 

[MisterXDTV]

Yes, not many people predicted that the XBS would flop worse than the Xbox One. It will be fun to read all those past comments about how this time would be different for MS since this time the "competition" would be stronger than the last gen.

If I were in the media business, I would set up an interview with Don Mattrick right away... Pure gold waiting

 

[SneakersSO]

If I were in the media business, I would set up an interview with Don Mattrick right away... Pure gold waiting

Honestly, in retrospect, Don Mattrick was correct that the future of Xbox was in expanding the audience that comprised the core Xbox audience. Yes, gamers felt heavily alienated, but all of the evidence needed to establish the current outcome we're in was available then. Many folks, particularly in the NA gaming journalism/commentary scene spent a really long time just ignoring the reality that MS was building for themselves.

 

[nosoynadie22]

XD

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

XD

what a dummy. console sales don't matter

 

[MasterCornholio]

XD

Some people are getting really desperate. This is just sad.

 

[nowhat]

XD

Wow that's pathetic. Kinda impressive really.

 

[nosoynadie22]

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

When it's on gamepass day 1 AND not on PS6, it will be not even half the brand it was.

After months of competition complaints, Sony agrees to 10-year Call of Duty deal

Move helps clear the way for final approval of Microsoft's Activision purchase.

arstechnica.com

At least 10 years until it's not on playstation.

 

[LordCBH]

XD

lol what the fuck. These people don’t even try to hide how retarded they are lol