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Dating Age |OT$6| Just ask her out already

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So, have any of you who are non-religious/atheist/agnostic ever dated a very religious person and how did that go?

She'd be down for shit and then back out just before it went down because "what am I doing? I can't betray God!".

It was her that'd always be bringing up wanting to get physical, so after the 3rd time this happened with discussion about it leading nowhere, we drifted apart a little and some fuckery happened with a mate of mine and her that made us seperate for good. Oh well, shit happens, I really didn't miss out on much.
 

gaiages

Banned
I've been using long hair for years and well damn, first time I received this kind of message on Tinder and it sucks. I got a match, got hyped, saw girls profile, got more hyped because she's very attractive, I politely write her something saying hello and she just replied:

"I just saw you well and honestly, I don't like you. You should cut your hair"

I politely replied: "How unfortunate, thanks for the suggestion."

This is the least shit I needed after an awful day :'/ Now I understand why I get a match every decade on Tinder. Girls simply don't like long haired guys anymore. sighhhhhhhh

Goddamn, that's brutal lol

For real, though? I don't find that most men can pull off the long haired look properly. Depends on a lot of things. Shorter hair and just being bald are typically easier to pull off.

It's something you did and you're proud of. Plus it highlights you're somewhat fit and active.

I honestly don't think there's something that's too 'try hard' when it comes to pics on dating sites, the only thing is to the pics should be of stuff you actually do so...

The only things I think is too try hard are...

1. Shirtless mirror selfies
2. The awkward pose picture in front of your high class car, positioned perfectly so everyone KNOWS it's a Porche

If you ran a half marathon, be proud of it! :D
 

Xun

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That's pretty shitty Adan, I'm sorry to hear how rude she was.

Goddamn, that's brutal lol

For real, though? I don't find that most men can pull off the long haired look properly. Depends on a lot of things. Shorter hair and just being bald are typically easier to pull off.
It's certainly not an easy thing to pull off.

I tried to grow mine back in uni but it didn't work...

:(
 
I've been using long hair for years and well damn, first time I received this kind of message on Tinder and it sucks. I got a match, got hyped, saw girls profile, got more hyped because she's very attractive, I politely write her something saying hello and she just replied:

"I just saw you well and honestly, I don't like you. You should cut your hair"

I politely replied: "How unfortunate, thanks for the suggestion."

This is the least shit I needed after an awful day :'/ Now I understand why I get a match every decade on Tinder. Girls simply don't like long haired guys anymore. sighhhhhhhh

I'd be curious to see that, her, your pic etc.

PM if it cant be shared in here.
That's fairly shitty of her, but there are ways to frame things..
 

jimmypython

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I've been using long hair for years and well damn, first time I received this kind of message on Tinder and it sucks. I got a match, got hyped, saw girls profile, got more hyped because she's very attractive, I politely write her something saying hello and she just replied:

"I just saw you well and honestly, I don't like you. You should cut your hair"

I politely replied: "How unfortunate, thanks for the suggestion."

This is the least shit I needed after an awful day :'/ Now I understand why I get a match every decade on Tinder. Girls simply don't like long haired guys anymore. sighhhhhhhh

She swiped to like you by accident? better be that.

Still, sorry to hear. Stay strong!
 

Peltz

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I just hate feeling like I was upstaged by someone, tho apparently he brought up relationship talk kinda face and that's what she didn't know she wanted. Yea, I'm a big upset. The physical was amazing, but she was also cool to hang out with. At the moment I can't promise anyway a relationship, or something serious for a few reason. At the end of the day though, I just like dating and meeting new people. Sad to see her go. She really wanted to remain friends but I'm not going to be friends with a girl I'm not hooking up with. Thats why I feel kinda scummy.

Anyway, I'm feeling better.

I'm telling you things for your own good: you have a very poor perspective on this. It's immature and self-defeating. And you should take a moment to really understand why you reacted the way you did to this and what role your ego is playing in how you choose to spend time with the opposite sex.

There's no such thing as being "upstaged" in dating. It's not a performance piece. It's all about trust and intimicacy. It's about bringing value to someone's life who brings value to your life. It's about having "no bullshit" honest conversations and interactions. It's not something that can be faked or "performed".

She chose someone else who she connects with better for whatever reason. You're not the be all end all of dating. Just accept that. There's nothing wrong with it.

If your dating to fulfill your ego or your sexuality (in the most one-dimensional sense) or to find self-worth, you're going to react exactly the way you did to rejection - poorly. You're going to take it as a personal slap in the face. And quite frankly, that is immature.

The correct response would be to feel genuinely happy for someone you care about if she found someone else who she really wanted to be with. It's a bittersweet feeling, yes, but it shouldn't be a negative one. You, on the other hand, take it as a personal insult. And that's wrong for your own sake. Seriously, you're only hurting yourself here.

You mentioned previously that you don't "do well" with sober first dates. Well, it's probably because you have a fear of genuine intimacy and feel like you need to "perform" to get women to like you. But girls see through that and it's not something that is going to make a girl want to commit.

If a girl chose someone else over you, all that means is her desires for intimacy were better served by the other person. She felt there were better "no bullshit" moments with them over you.

My advice would be, don't try. Unlike others in this thread, you're already good looking and can easily get a girl's attention. But you should practice just being comfortable in your own skin, not worrying about rejection, and allowing girls to see your "boring" or "lame" side that you may or may not be comfortable with.

When a girl sees you at your most ordinary, she'll decide if you're who she wants. And if the answer is "no" then you'll not feel bad if she's rejecting those inalienable ordinary things.

In other words, practice self acceptance and stop giving a fuck if girls like you.
 
I've been using long hair for years and well damn, first time I received this kind of message on Tinder and it sucks. I got a match, got hyped, saw girls profile, got more hyped because she's very attractive, I politely write her something saying hello and she just replied:

"I just saw you well and honestly, I don't like you. You should cut your hair"

I politely replied: "How unfortunate, thanks for the suggestion."

This is the least shit I needed after an awful day :'/ Now I understand why I get a match every decade on Tinder. Girls simply don't like long haired guys anymore. sighhhhhhhh

That's pretty mean spirited on her part. But it already happened so time for self reflection. Ask some people in your life men and women to honestly give their opinion on your hair.
 
I'm telling you things for your own good: you have a very poor perspective on this. It's immature and self-defeating. And you should take a moment to really understand why you reacted the way you did to this and what role your ego is playing in how you choose to spend time with the opposite sex.

There's no such thing as being "upstaged" in dating. It's not a performance piece. It's all about trust and intimicacy. It's about bringing value to someone's life who brings value to your life. It's about having "no bullshit" honest conversations and interactions. It's not something that can be faked or "performed".

She chose someone else who she connects with better for whatever reason. You're not the be all end all of dating. Just accept that. There's nothing wrong with it.

If your dating to fulfill your ego or your sexuality (in the most one-dimensional sense) or to find self-worth, you're going to react exactly the way you did to rejection - poorly. You're going to take it as a personal slap in the face. And quite frankly, that is immature.

The correct response would be to feel genuinely happy for someone you care about if she found someone else who she really wanted to be with. It's a bittersweet feeling, yes, but it shouldn't be a negative one. You, on the other hand, take it as a personal insult. And that's wrong for your own sake. Seriously, you're only hurting yourself here.

You mentioned previously that you don't "do well" with sober first dates. Well, it's probably because you have a fear of genuine intimacy and feel like you need to "perform" to get women to like you. But girls see through that and it's not something that is going to make a girl want to commit.

If a girl chose someone else over you, all that means is her desires for intimacy were better served by the other person. She felt there were better "no bullshit" moments with them over you.

My advice would be, don't try. Unlike others in this thread, you're already good looking and can easily get a girl's attention. But you should practice just being comfortable in your own skin, not worrying about rejection, and allowing girls to see your "boring" or "lame" side that you may or may not be comfortable with.

When a girl sees you at your most ordinary, she'll decide if you're who she wants. And if the answer is "no" then you'll not feel bad if she's rejecting those inalienable ordinary things.

In other words, practice self acceptance and stop giving a fuck if girls like you.

Lot of good perspective here, I just need to add "Just ask her out already", like the other guy did. You snooze, you loose. You wanted to have your cake and eat it or "this is great, I'm getting sex without all that relationship bullshit, she's cool with it so nothing's going to upset the status quo". Johnny McSwingdick turned up and ate your lunch for you.
 

Unai

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She'd be down for shit and then back out just before it went down because "what am I doing? I can't betray God!".

It was her that'd always be bringing up wanting to get physical, so after the 3rd time this happened with discussion about it leading nowhere, we drifted apart a little and some fuckery happened with a mate of mine and her that made us seperate for good. Oh well, shit happens, I really didn't miss out on much.

That's basically what's happening to me, although it hasn't happen 3 times yet. I'm still thinking how worth it is, and how this could be a problem in the future. I have agreed to go to the church with her just to give her company (and I'm starting to think that wasn't a smart move) but even that doesn't seem to be enough.
 

Lulubop

Member
Lot of good perspective here, I just need to add "Just ask her out already", like the other guy did. You snooze, you loose. You wanted to have your cake and eat it or "this is great, I'm getting sex without all that relationship bullshit, she's cool with it so nothing's going to upset the status quo". Johnny McSwingdick turned up and ate your lunch for you.

Pretty much, I even said I wanted to have my cake and eat it to so... I was probably never going to ask her to be in a serious relationship with me but it upset the status quo and for a few hours last night I was pretty salty about. It happens. Yea, I was being unfair and I told her that I=

I agree some of what was said but not all. If I know someone is into me I have extreme confidence, having a drink on the first date is a preference and I stated why.
 
She's not living with her mom. Her mom is living with her. I don't know how much she makes, but I know what sort of job she has and I've spent quite a bit of time in her neighborhood (it's super nice). I don't think affordability is the issue.

Your second statement is more where I'm at. That said, she's coming inside my apartment this weekend.
Just don't come inside her like Ray Wonder did.
Met a super cool girl, about a month into talking to her she brought up god and asked what I believe in.

Since I don't believe in god, it's over.

She might be pregnant with my kid

She just dropped this bomb on me

Yeah man. It was more like 1 3/4 months, but yeah.

I did for a while, she said she was on birth control.

fuck me
:p
 
If your dating to fulfill your ego or your sexuality (in the most one-dimensional sense) or to find self-worth, you're going to react exactly the way you did to rejection - poorly. You're going to take it as a personal slap in the face. And quite frankly, that is immature.

Thanks for the read, cool stuff. Insightful and makes me reassess how I see dating right now.

I crave those meaningful moments and deep relationships, but I worry at the end of the day it's because of my ego and wanting self reassurance... And it leads to being really really beaten up emotionally if I don't get my way.

Seeing a psychologist soon to work all this out in my head, and trying to meet new people in the meantime.

What part of you thought it was a good idea? Serious question. I'm curious to your mindset here.

The man is smitten, you ever been like that? Makes you wanna say weird stuff and do things a little differently
 

gaiages

Banned
Pretty much, I even said I wanted to have my cake and eat it to so... I was probably never going to ask her to be in a serious relationship with me but it upset the status quo and for a few hours last night I was pretty salty about. It happens.

I agree some of what was said but not all. If I know someone is into me I have extreme confidence, having a drink on the first date is a preference and I stated why.

Yeah you have, but to be honest it wasn't really a good reason, since we're all being blunt here. It's using alcohol to prop up whatever issues you have with having a sober date, and that does not show any confidence whatsoever. You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you don't at least work on that. Not that first dates can't have alcohol whatsoever, but it's time to face why you think that being buzzed or inebriated is your number one way to get someone to like you.

Just don't come inside her like Ray Wonder did.

:p

Or just wear a condom, condoms exist for a reason
 

Astral

Member
There's this cute girl at work that I kind of have a crush on but she's only working for the summer since she goes to school like 5 hours away. On one hand, I wouldn't have to worry much about shitting where I eat since I rarely work with her and she'll leave in August anyway. On the other hand, if things go well I don't wanna do long distance and I probably wouldn't drive up to see her.
 
What part of you thought it was a good idea? Serious question. I'm curious to your mindset here.

Yo, lay off him a bit. He's not got it all worked out as well as some of us do. He's made great progress this week with his confidence and although the answer might be obvious to some of us he's only asking for advice. Or thinking out loud.
 

Lulubop

Member
Yeah you have, but to be honest it wasn't really a good reason, since we're all being blunt here. It's using alcohol to prop up whatever issues you have with having a sober date, and that does not show any confidence whatsoever. You're setting yourself up for disappointment if you don't at least work on that. Not that first dates can't have alcohol whatsoever, but it's time to face why you think that being buzzed or inebriated is your number one way to get someone to like you.



Or just wear a condom, condoms exist for a reason

Propping up fun? Yea, I guess. I don't have a problem doing a sober park date or Ice Cream, it's just a preference. I can do all that other shit, but at the end of the day I just want to have fun. No that's not fun for me, and if that's a problem oh well.

Additionally any dates I set up currently will have to be park/coffee dates, I need to save money like I've said before. nbd.
 
The man is smitten, you ever been like that? Makes you wanna say weird stuff and do things a little differently

I get that. I'm not asking to be a dick. I'm curious more about the thought process involved with considering it.

Yo, lay off him a bit. He's not got it all worked out as well as some of us do. He's made great progress this week with his confidence and although the answer might be obvious to some of us he's only asking for advice. Or thinking out loud.

Yeah I am not riding him about asking. That's the point of the thread. He obviously knows it isnt a good idea. That's not really what I am after.

I am (quite literally for my own interest and gathering of perspective) wondering the process he used to consider it. I know someone he did something similar (it turned out fine) and am just curious if its a similar process.
 

Peltz

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What part of you thought it was a good idea? Serious question. I'm curious to your mindset here.

My bro in law took my sister to Mexico with him on vacation after dating for like a month and now they're married and expecting a kid any day now. And she had extremely exacting standards growing up. No guys were ever good enough for her. But that all changed when he came along... she was feeling it pretty much immediately and didn't think twice about traveling with him very early.

It's a bold move, but it can definitely work out. In Mega's case, I'd at least have sex first before even thinking about traveling together though... but that's really just me.
 
Yeah I am not riding him about asking. That's the point of the thread. He obviously knows it isnt a good idea. That's not really what I am after.

I am (quite literally for my own interest and gathering of perspective) wondering the process he used to consider it. I know someone he did something similar (it turned out fine) and am just curious if its a similar process.

Ok, I understand your angle now. I'll give an example from my life. You get a new girlfriend at the start of December, everything's going great, it's the salad days. Come Christmas, how much do you spend on a gift and do you spend the day at her/your families home? The wrong choice at that time may make her think she's not important to you.
 
After meeting a few people through it, I think I'll uninstall tinder again. Tinder's great for the numbers game, in a two weeks span had some dates, and you get to meet some nice people, but the match ratio doesn't play in your favour if you're an average looking guy and that kinda gets to me. Still, had fun with some of the dates, but if I always got to be the one who has to start a conversation, being the active one vs the reactive one, after a while of that I lose any interest in that person. And that's been a common factor with every date so far, tinder or no tinder.
 
After meeting a few people through it, I think I'll uninstall tinder again. Tinder's great for the numbers game, in a two weeks span had some dates, and you get to meet some nice people, but the match ratio doesn't play in your favour if you're an average looking guy and that kinda gets to me. Still, had fun with some of the dates, but if I always got to be the one who has to start a conversation, being the active one vs the reactive one, after a while of that I lose any interest in that person. And that's been a common factor with every date so far, tinder or no tinder.

Typical gender roles, the man has to make the approach. Get used to it, because that's not going to change anytime soon.
 

Kyne

Member
i've been gone for a week or so.. damn.. a lot sure has happen in this thread. we went full circle with asshole->anime..

i have been putting off dating for a while now but i need to jump back into the game.

i just can't be bothered to take updated/nice pictures right now. :( bahhhh.
 

jimmypython

Member
My update: Sleepover last Wednesday, and date cancellation Saturday cuz she's tired. She's also been busy lately, and I've been initiating everything for the last week. Told her I want her to let me know when shes free, now I wait around. Not really feeling good though. It's actually really getting me down; this is the closest I've felt to someone in years. Our first few nights together were just perfect.

Started swiping again and called a girl the wrong name accidentally. She thought it was hilarious and now we're talking. The cycle continues

This is the worst feeling, and I was experiencing the same thing. I had to initiate everything and frankly I was annoyed by myself. So I had a very candid convo with the girl and turned out she "wasn't ready for dating just yet but still likes me" and "she wanted to be platonic for the time being". I was like: ok, I'm out, let me know when you are ready.

On another note, apparently the girl i hooked up with on Saturday (see my previous story) wants an FWB. Yeah....

..what a mess that is my life.
 
Dating Age [OT$7] Just wear a damn condom.

Seriously, It blows my mind who many people of my age still think that as long as they don't come inside they can't get pregnant. I've personally heard some of my friends say that.

No offence, Ray.
 
This is the worst feeling, and I was experiencing the same thing. I had to initiate everything and frankly I was annoyed by myself. So I had a very candid convo with the girl and turned out she "wasn't ready for dating just yet but still likes me" and "she wanted to be platonic for the time being". I was like: ok, I'm out, let me know when you are ready.

On another note, apparently the girl i hooked up with on Saturday (see my previous story) wants an FWB. Yeah....

..what a mess that is my life.

*e-hug*

That feeling of being annoyed at yourself is tough. I don't even know where it originates from, but I feel it a lot too.. and the only thing that makes it feel better is if I disconnect completely or the person gives me something positive. Finding a middle ground will be my next goal.

Gonna go for the FWB?
 
My bro in law took my sister to Mexico with him on vacation after dating for like a month and now they're married and expecting a kid any day now. And she had extremely exacting standards growing up. No guys were ever good enough for her. But that all changed when he came along... she was feeling it pretty much immediately and didn't think twice about traveling with him very early.

It's a bold move, but it can definitely work out. In Mega's case, I'd at least have sex first before even thinking about traveling together though... but that's really just me.

Ok, I understand your angle now. I'll give an example from my life. You get a new girlfriend at the start of December, everything's going great, it's the salad days. Come Christmas, how much do you spend on a gift and do you spend the day at her/your families home? The wrong choice at that time may make her think she's not important to you.

Good points. I think I worded my response to him poorly so my apologies for that. Yeah I think timing is the key for certain things like trips or holidays. I think asking early can imply a certain level of investment that isn't necessarily there.

But Peltz makes a true point about fortune favoring the bold. (I hate holiday talks. Nothing ever makes that communication not awkward for me)
 
How many times am I supposed to start a discussion? It does get to a point where it becomes too "try hard" for me.
Sometimes I intentionally withhold a topic to continue a conversation to see if she can come up with something. If she can't, we just don't have that chemistry where she can carry a conversation, and I cut it off. Simplest test you can do.
 
Sometimes I intentionally withhold a topic to continue a conversation to see if she can come up with something. If she can't, we just don't have that chemistry where she can carry a conversation, and I cut it off. Simplest test you can do.
I should do this more. One word answer responses do perturb me a bit.
 

Jimothy

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Okay. I just asked her out. Let's see how this plays out, cotton.

An update on this: she agreed "tentatively" to hanging out, but went on to say she was really busy with work and stuff, which is weird because on our date she mentioned how she only works 5-6 hours a day, and is off on the weekends. Meh. Think I'm gonna move on. Not gonna settle for that "I'll try to fit you in" bullshit. If she was actually interested she wouldn't bring up how busy she is, right?
 

gaiages

Banned
An update on this: she agreed "tentatively" to hanging out, but went on to say she was really busy with work and stuff, which is weird because on our date she mentioned how she only works 5-6 hours a day, and is off on the weekends. Meh. Think I'm gonna move on. Not gonna settle for that "I'll try to fit you in" bullshit. If she was actually interested she wouldn't bring up how busy she is, right?

Yeah, best to move on there. She doesn't seem interested at all.
 

Xun

Member
A girl I went on 2 dates with just wants to be friends, which is a shame, but it obviously wasn't meant to be.

I'd be lying if I said it didn't sting a little though, but I guess that's just my self-esteem/ego talking.

In any case I took her up on the offer and we're meeting next week, but who knows if that'll actually happen.

Oh well.

In other news I've got a date with a hot Romanian girl tomorrow night, so fingers crossed things go well!
 
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