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Fighting Games Weekly | March 3-9 | Edition Edition

BadWolf

Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";103287863]I think I'm replacing Athena with Yuri on my KOFXIII team. Super hop fireballs are just too much fun.


Duo Lon/Kim/Yuri? Or should Kim and Yuri be swapped.[/QUOTE]

Kim works in any position.

I see Yuri in 2nd or 3rd usually. Both Bala and Romance use her as anchor.
 

Omega

Banned
What's it say? Can't see if not logged in to Facebook.

He calls out the Guilty Gear socal scene.

Calls them scrubs, etc. Wants to 1 v any amount of players. Say it's a 1v10, he has to win 20 times, they only have to beat him 10.

Says no one has hungry and pretty much constantly insults them lol
 
So if you give your entry fee to the tournament administration and then have your money match after which the money is distributed by the administration... now its legal?


ESGN Season 3 is on guys! Let's get those numbers up!

http://www.twitch.tv/esgn_tv
Saying that "money is being given out to the winner of matches" is like saying a duel and a war are the same kind of thing because people fight and draw blood. It's just picking on two common attributes and elevating them to be defining attributes. Two people cannot make a tournament, just like two people cannot make a war. Adding an impartial cash distributor does not change that.
 

FerroN91

Neo Member
naw, Ski is great. Maybe it is misplaced hype, not fake. To me.

Filthie/Goo are in their own tier, hehe.

I always thought Maximilian had really annoying fake hype on a few of his vids. I like most of his content, but just can't watch the ones where he goes over the top with stuff.

But, that's just, like, my opinion man.
 
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";103287863]I think I'm replacing Athena with Yuri on my KOFXIII team. Super hop fireballs are just too much fun.


Duo Lon/Kim/Yuri? Or should Kim and Yuri be swapped.[/QUOTE]

Tough choice to an extent, yeah. Assuming you can do the practical HD combos, I'd say Kim should go last because otherwise you're going to want to use those EX Hangetsuzan but Yuri will need that meter. Less of an issue if you can do that corner HD buttloop, IIRC you can get crazy damage off 1 bar with it. You can probably switch around depending on what you're facing rather than think in terms of meter management though.
 

Dahbomb

Member
Saying that "money is being given out to the winner of matches" is like saying a duel and a war are the same kind of thing because people fight and draw blood. It's just picking on two common attributes and elevating them to be defining attributes. Two people cannot make a tournament, just like two people cannot make a war. Adding an impartial cash distributor does not change that.
So the core issue between tournament (legal) and money match (illegal) is an issue of number of players.

What if its a 3 player round robin style "exhibition" winner takes all with say a $200 entry fee. Is this legal or illegal? Where do you make the cut off for tournament?
 

Dahbomb

Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";103289186]I don't play Tekken or KI, so what's the fake Filthie hype about other than not actually being a good Jojo's player?[/QUOTE]
He gets hyped over people getting hit in KI and then starts screaming over fairly "standard" moments in a match.
 
So the core issue between tournament (legal) and money match (illegal) is an issue of number of players.

What if its a 3 player round robin style "exhibition" winner takes all with say a $200 entry fee. Is this legal or illegal? Where do you make the cut off for tournament?
Past 2, it's definitely not a money match. I think the name "exhibition" is appropriate. Like the difference between a duel, a battle, and a war, the differences are going to be largely arbitrary. However, definitions being arbitrary does not mean they are unimportant or meaningless. Personally, I would say no less than 8 for a tournament.

I don't know whether things are legal or illegal - I am not a lawyer. I just think there are clear differences between MMs and tournaments.

This might actually be an interesting idea to apply to chess. The guy hustling people in the park with a board is not on the same level as a USCF or FIDA sanctioned tournament. While I am not going to look it up presently, I wonder what sorts of things make chess a "tournament" instead of a "money match". And of course, money matches in chess are sometimes legally sanctioned (Kasparov vs. Deep Blue, etc.).
 

alstein

Member
Valle unhappy with the sidebetting at SCR:

Valle complaining isn't going to do shit about it.

The only thing that would work is either the authorities shut down a tourney (worst case), or a TO throws people out over it (and accepts the heat)

I think at EVO it's not as people because people know it's Vegas, and that shit would get enforced.

It's the betting in public that's an issue, what folks do in their own rooms isn't the tourney.
 
It's a question of organization structure to me and responsibility of who upholds payouts.

There is a clear difference between me going to a softball forum and money matching teams independently and paying an entry fee into a city league and the winner of the season/tournament getting a cash prize.
 

QisTopTier

XisBannedTier
What's it say? Can't see if not logged in to Facebook.

TO ALL NEW GUILTY GEAR PLAYERS:

As of late I've been growing more and more excited towards a final exhibition against the Veterans in +R and trying to win a tournament before Xrd comes out. But last week someone asked me a question that brought something to my attention."But what are you guys going to do against Jo, Eiji, or Hellmonkey." My initial response is "WE ARE GOING TO COME AT THEIR FUCKING HEADS". But then I stopped myself at "We": Thinking about all of the past weeks and months I've been grinding Guilty Gear, I feel I am the only one who truly wants to go at them with all I have AND WIN, and that I can speak for no other new player. The thought has occured to me that no other new players are hungry. If so, I'd feel as if I'm cheating myself to even compare our hunger. I've been grinding Guilty so hard and pushing myself to the point to where I've picked up multiple characters and have beaten most people's mains with these sub characters. I WANT TO BE THE BEST, AND I WANT TO KEEP GETTING BETTER. But this isn't about me, this is about you fucking scrubs.

Honestly at this point, when I see fellow new players in my part of the brackets during tourney, I equate that to BI. I know you're going to do the same exact shit that you've been doing in casuals, and the same shit you all have been doing for fucking weeks (months). I've accepted the fact a long time ago that I am the only one who TRULY understands the gap in skill and experience that the veterans have over us, and that I'm the only who is sincerely trying to close that gap. Not caring about winning, focusing only on getting better. But WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN DOING?

I find myselff in a dilemma. I care about our fragile scene enough to do everything I can to help ALL GG players grow (mainly myself) in anyway I can. Yet I'm disgusted by the lack of hunger by you fellow new players to be teamed up with any of you fucking scrubs. So I'll put myself on the line to challenge you scrubs, but most importantly boost the competitive nature and hunger of our scene.

I CHALLENGE ALL OF YOU FUCKING SCRUBS TO A 2/1 ODDS TEAM MONEY MATCH. The rules are simple. I faceoff against a team of my fellow new players in a team money match in which I must win twice as much! So for example if it's me vs 10 new players, I have to win 20 times to win. Yet you guys only have to beat me 10 times and I'll have to pay each and every one of you. So basically your entire team has to beat me 1 time each, OR 1 person can simply beat me 10 times. However if I beat any one person 2 times they can no longer play and have to rely on their teammates. If I win 20 matches I win, if your team wins 10 matches, you win. If there only happens to be 3 players, then I'd have to win 6 times, and you'd only have to win 3 times. It's a 2/1 odds team money match. But a TEAM money match none the less! If you don't feel up to the challenge then GRIND AND GET FUCKING BETTER WITH OUR SCENE. I'd happily give you scrubs an advantage, this is all I have left for our fragile +R scene.

This is the most I can do for myself to improve and give a real challenge to the veterans in the future. I'M WILLING TO LOSE ALL OF MY MONEY RIGHT NOW. ACCEPT MY CHALLENGE, DON'T MAKE ME TAG NEW PLAYERS INDIVIDUALLY. I need to find out who wants to step up besides me, and who is ACTUALLY hungry. Because at this point in time (not that I'm anybody special) I don't wish to be teamed up with ANY of you. I want challengers, time, and a date. Come at me fucking bitches. I'll be using Venom.

I'll rip you scrubs apart, and I mean every word of it.

looool
 

BakedYams

Slayer of Combofiends
In DotA, there are 3 lanes that need to be controlled. Mid is the most crucial lane because it gains XP the fastest due to (typically) not being a shared lane. You usually place a strong solo character there. "Feeding" means getting killed repeatedly to give the other team XP. So, if you are feeding mid, you are powerleveling the opposing team's most powerful early solo character, which usually has disastrous long term effects.

I'm glad you explained it. Didn't know he streamed Dota2, I knew he played it though.

Just get a group of mid-high tier players and it'll be interesting. Don't include a Justin or Champ that can just crush everyone.

Just get Marvel 2, Marvel 3 ESGN and get the gods in there to duke it out. Zack Bennett, Apologyman, FChamp, Angelic, Justin Wong, Rayray, Yipes, Moonz, Treblig-Punisher, Mike Schmitt, Flux, Flocker, Bum. Heck, give me more time and I'll give you a damn essay. These people bring the hype and the smack talk. (Forgot about all the top tier japanese players too like Kusuro, has a dante and spencer with his frank, and Nemo with Frieda, Tenboss, Abegen, etc.)

GET OUT OF MY HEAD CHARLES

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Why is side betting an issue? I don't know the legal issues involved so I wouldn't know. Why is it a big deal if I wanna bet someone that my boy is gonna beat your boy? Please do tell. Illegal?

Its hype to bet but its highly illegal. Valle was extremely lenient in letting them bet but those retards just asked "Please shut down the stream as I wave around illegal money in my hands." Do it to the side and keep it off stream. I liked OBS last night, it was raw and brought up a lot of good points and brought the main point as to why fighting games haven't exploded like COD or League, its because of advertisement. Players don't matter, its how its brought to the masses.

Also, I'm hype to see the second coming of Next Level. I was planning to go tonight but plans came up! Hella salty.
 
How godlike would it be if in Edition Select you choose a Vanilla SF4 character, the game allowed post-KO inputs so you can do courtesy duffs again.
 

kirblar

Member
One thing about Hearthstone/Starcraft as well- you have players tuning in to copy/paste type of strategies. That's just not how it works in FGs.
 

Dahbomb

Member
One thing about Hearthstone/Starcraft as well- you have players tuning in to copy/paste type of strategies. That's just not how it works in FGs.
No one copies Hearthstone deck from ESGN because whenever they put out the matches they were using the older patches.

Like I tuned in once thinking I would copy/paste some decks but they were using stuff like 1/2 Novice Engineer and I was like "whelp that card is shit now, I can't copy this deck".


Also people just look up decks online anyway, they don't need to watch ESGN to copy shit. Especially the streamers at high ranks like Reynaud. In addition, meta game keeps changing rapidly making ESGN obsolete real quick.
 

vocab

Member
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";103287863]I think I'm replacing Leona with Yuri on my KOFXIII team. Super hop fireballs are just too much fun.


Duo Lon/Kim/Yuri? Or should Kim and Yuri be swapped.[/QUOTE]

Either or. Both are cheap. Kims bullshit so his anchor factor is just up there in terms of comeback.
 

pixelish

Member
i just got back home and currently watching the rerun of tonight's fight night. how's the viewership figure when it was live? still around the same number even after the obs interview with winrich?
 
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";103287863]I think I'm replacing Leona with Yuri on my KOFXIII team. Super hop fireballs are just too much fun.


Duo Lon/Kim/Yuri? Or should Kim and Yuri be swapped.[/QUOTE]

Throw my hat in with either way as well. Both work well as either mid or anchor. Could swap around on a match by match basis.
 

Kadey

Mrs. Harvey
They are asking for too much. Late night Eastern is peak time for stream viewing. Besides, I think people are going to be turned off by the lack of actual commentary and certain other aspects of it. Kbrad and Sanford are trying to make the most of it but it seems like the others don't have it in them to be humorous and entertaining.
 
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